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Old 21st May 2007, 13:11
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advice on here has been brilliant!

hi guys,

this forum is soo helpful. i used to be cynical about these forums, but its proved me wrong.

i used this forum for inside information to help fill my application form for BA cabin crew...and to my surprise i got invitied for an assessment...

but there no slots available, so i dont know whether they have been all booked up, or they havent posted them online yet?
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Old 21st May 2007, 21:08
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BA Eurofleet Pay and Conditions

I've been reading through the forum here and see that estimated take home pay after tax for EF is £1500/£1600 per month. With a basic of £10,499 do you guys already working for EF think that is about right? Is there an incremental scale?

Also, at the interview we were advised 9 rest days per month yet I see 10 days mentioned in the forum. Can anyone who has just received a contract expand on this and the number of days annual leave you get per year?

Finally, on the training course, we'll all learn about CRM. I'd like to know generally what the relationship is like between flight crew and cabin crew at BA EF? Where I work now, it's brilliant and quite informal. After our crew briefing, we have a briefing with the flight deck and they like to share many of the details of the flight e.g. weather, airport characteristics, operations, safety issues etc. You really feel you are one team. Just wonder if it's similar at BA EF?
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Ams-lhr

You asked about the course well here goes :

First 10days are Customer Service. On the first day you have a test to proove you did your 30hrs of pre course homework! Quite straightforward but you must do the work. After that you are shown aircraft layouts ie where the galleys loos and wardrobes are and how many pax on each aircraft. Every night you have homework. During day some role play, pick up uniform, and how to wear it correctly. There is a strict points system in place ie: if you're told it's jackets on all day you must wear your jacket anywhere outside the classroom (in the canteen for example) otherwise you'll get a point...and points mean you'll get kicked off the course.

After that its AVMED which is tough and you must pass but the trainers are fantastic and get you through.

And then it's the really serious stuff SEP. Fighting fires,jumping down slides,splashing round Hounslow swimming pool, loads of role play ...very serious. Once again no margine for error. Instructors brilliant and if it's your kind of thing then its fabulous but for me it was the toughest part with loads of homework and drills to be learnt. Once again masses of homework.

Back to Customer Service for a week with lots of exercises in the mock up, lots of role play again!!!!! At the end a very tough exam to show you've been paying attention for the last 5 weeks!

Was tough with loads of pressure but met some great people and made loads of new friends.

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Old 22nd May 2007, 10:45
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Question Ams-LHR

hello just wanted to say good luck for tommrow interview i hope i got the date right

The cribbys i take points dont mean prizes with BA training course than !!!lol

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Old 22nd May 2007, 14:07
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Good luck AMS
mines thurs am & im a bag of nerves too!
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Old 22nd May 2007, 14:27
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Good Luck AMS-LHR and tea and coffee with your interviews. I'm sure you'll both be great. Please let us know how you do

Enboogie yeah "points deff don't win prizes" but I have forgotten how many you have to get before being thrown off- about 7 I think. Nobody got chucked off mine though. Lucky me once I get my start date I shall have to do it all again.

Anyone had a start date yet I had my interview 2nd May.
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Old 22nd May 2007, 14:55
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I had my interterview on the 26th April, got a phone call from 'The Rivers' offering me a start date of the 2nd of July, would be rude to say no! So it looks like the training dates for this past recruitment drive will all be coming up pretty soon, good luck everyone.
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Old 22nd May 2007, 15:47
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Question sorry to change the subject

I have been told that the uniform skirts can be seen through in certain light is this true? if so will a good old petticoat solve the problem
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Pay at EF LHR is usually between £1500 - £2000 per month after tax this obviously all depends on what you bid for if you bid early there and backs you will not earn as much as if you do late there and backs or if you bid for nightstops. The minimum days off per month is 9 but you will usually get 10 day off per month my roster for this month May was
1-2 Available
3-4 off
5-6 Lisbon Nightstop
7 Glasogow there and back
8 Standby
9-10 Available
11-12 Istanbul Nightstop
13-15 Off
16-18 Athens Nightstop
19-20 Larnaca Nightstop
21-23 Off
24-26 Zurich 1 night Aberdeen 1 night
27-28 Istanbul Nightstop
29 Nice there and back
30-31 Off

CRM is generally ok at British Airways Most pilots are very nice, there are a few who look down their noses at you, Just look at Carnage Mateys posts on this forum! But as we swap flightcrew on most sectors so you don't really get to spend much time with the flightcrew e.g. The pilots who fly on your first sector will probably get off at your first destination then new flightcrew will get on back to london then you'll have new crew to your link destination then you get off the aircraft and they will fly back to london while your on your nightstop.
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Old 22nd May 2007, 20:18
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Ben Asher:

yes, on shorthaul heathrow you are GUARANTEED 10 days off per month - apart from february when it's 9 days, due to it being a short month.

yes, you will be on an incremental payscale for your basic salary as main crew (pursers and CSD's have their own scales that you will move onto if you get promoted one day) that has 12 increments - one increment each year for 12 years. it starts at £10,499 p/a and the current top of scale (after 12 years) is £20,088 p/a. however, this increases every year due to pay awards to keep up with the cost of living etc.
also unlike alot of other british airlines we are also paid in various allowances whilst on duty (i.e. meal allowances (which are linked to the consumer price index, and increase every year); overtime for long duties; payments for each midnight that you are away on duty, and many, many more. also each fleet (as in longhaul/shorthaul) has their own unique allowances) which bump up our pay packet to the levels mentioned in previous posts. on average you can expect to earn around £13,000 - £15,000 (the latter being the more likely figure) in allowances ontop of your basic salary annually.

annual leave for a new entrant at heathrow shorthaul is 30 days per year and after 5 years increases to 36 days per year, i believe.

hope this helps.
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Old 22nd May 2007, 22:33
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Ask after the presentation tomorrow - I had my interview today and asked about Compass in relation to standby shifts. I am sure it's well equipped!

Good luck with the interview!! Don't let people put you of either; there's a lot of waiting around and people do talk, if you know what I mean...
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Old 23rd May 2007, 00:02
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It was well equipped, but with staff moving out to Waterside in anticipation of T5 facilities (e.g cafes) are starting to be run down.
I guess it should still be OK for airport standby until we all move over to the great white hope ....
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I wasn't given the opportunity to ask any questions after my interview and was told to save them until after the presentation! Good luck!
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Old 23rd May 2007, 16:44
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Had my interview on the 2nd May and have just been offered a start date on the 9th July- permanant LHR SH. Yipee!! Good luck AMS/LHS have got my fingers crossed for you.
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Old 23rd May 2007, 18:44
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Hi AMS, I was interviewed on the 26th April and got my email saying I was successfull on the 4th May! ANd yesterday got offered my training date. so it may take up to 7 days I guess, gotta remember theyre really busy over there at the Rivers. So how was the Interview and assesment day? How well did you do? Do tell all!!!

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Old 23rd May 2007, 19:12
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That's exactly how I feel! Usually you come out of an interview knowing how well you did but I haven't got a clue! It's a waiting game now but when I do receive the email, I'll have to read it from behind my hands - I'm too scared to know the outcome!
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Hi
I had my interview on 27th April and they phoned today to offer me a course in July LHR SH.



Yippee! and good luck to those of you waiting.
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Old 23rd May 2007, 21:09
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Hey AMS -LHR had my interview on the wed and heard on the Friday so just two days of waiting. I was really unsure about how it had gone if anything felt negative.

Lulu is your course on the 9th July?
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Old 24th May 2007, 09:23
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Had my interview on 26th as well and been offered 2nd July 2007.

Really excited about it!!!!

See you there 7!

By the way were you morning or afternoon on the 26th as we might already know each other?
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26th April

Hi, I was in the morning interview. Didnt think We'd get a training date this soon. Gotta hand in notice soon, YAY! ANyway see you the 2nd.

Gary
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