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QF executives have a good look in the mirror
Thank you Tightslot for declaring the first innings closed........(9 for 602....what a great score!)
Now let the games continue..........Have you seen the QF Cityflyer TV ad showing some dropkick w@nker hosting a business meeting and boring the people in the room with spintalk so much that one of them connects to the internet to book a flight so that he does'nt have to put up with the BS any longer? Well it's time QF executives had a good look in the mirror!!!
Another flight and the worst IFE problems I've ever experienced......will they ever get this fixed??!! By the way check out the Singapore Airlines website and take a look at what they're about to have onboard their new 777s. Check out all classes..........mindblowing!!
Now let the games continue..........Have you seen the QF Cityflyer TV ad showing some dropkick w@nker hosting a business meeting and boring the people in the room with spintalk so much that one of them connects to the internet to book a flight so that he does'nt have to put up with the BS any longer? Well it's time QF executives had a good look in the mirror!!!
Another flight and the worst IFE problems I've ever experienced......will they ever get this fixed??!! By the way check out the Singapore Airlines website and take a look at what they're about to have onboard their new 777s. Check out all classes..........mindblowing!!
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I'm sorry - I just wanted to see if I could get the words "England", "Cricket" and "domination" into the same paragraph without crying - I can't...
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Ashes to Ashes
Thanks Tightslot but we have'nt won this test yet........but it sure looks good!!! ....... and you have the consolation that the Poms still hold the Ashes...........at least until the end of this series 
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Tightslot,
Ian Botham was being interviewed this afternoon (Australian time) and reminded the audience that although we look as if we have this one in the bag , we won the first test last time as well but look what happened after that.The wheels fell off that one so I hope it doesn't happen again.
So here's hoping it's a good summer and may the best team win.
And back to reality ,it looks as though the company that leases a number of our aircraft to us is /maybe /wants to be part of the consortium trying to buy us.
One minute we're leasing aircraft from them and the next thing you know they are thinking of buying us and leasing us out....Just a touch of irony there .
Ian Botham was being interviewed this afternoon (Australian time) and reminded the audience that although we look as if we have this one in the bag , we won the first test last time as well but look what happened after that.The wheels fell off that one so I hope it doesn't happen again.
So here's hoping it's a good summer and may the best team win.
And back to reality ,it looks as though the company that leases a number of our aircraft to us is /maybe /wants to be part of the consortium trying to buy us.
One minute we're leasing aircraft from them and the next thing you know they are thinking of buying us and leasing us out....Just a touch of irony there .
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Qantas compete, give me a break
Shlonghaul,
Check your schedules mate, internationally QF flies to about about a dozen destinations in its own right, domestically, the capital cities except Hobart, in fact it does not fly to Tasmania at all. Regional services are done by subsidiary airlines, all one class, no choice. No first class to Japan, Honolulu, Mumbai, Johannesburg, Manila or Djarkarta. Most of the mentioned destinations will be "served" by Jetstar in the near future, again no choice. First class round trip from SYD to JFK $20000+, business class $16000+, who do Qantas compete with, no-one. Thai Airways can operate two flights a day to Sydney from Bangkok, Qantas one, Brisbane three times a week, Qantas none, Perth three times a week, Qantas none, Cathay, Cairns to HKG three times a week, soon to be six, Qantas none. Anywhere in the South Pacific, Qantas none, same in South America, same in Europe except FRA and LHR.
Qantas has become a ferry service for Australian passengers from SYD to those places where QF management feel safe and to bring them home again. It does not compete with anyone. Thai Airways International and Singapore Airlines, in their First Class cabins are still doing what QF used to do ten years ago, caviar, lobster, foie gras, oysters, silver service, experienced cabin crew, sublime luxury. The accommodations in QF P/C set a new "park bench" mark in comfort and the cuisine is nothing more than sidewalk cafe food. GD's cost cutting has set a new high in mediocrity. Economy class is not worth the mention and J/C is not much better.
Sorry for the rant, but it irks me that a formerly great airline has been reduced to a rump for the personal financial gratification of its management.
Check your schedules mate, internationally QF flies to about about a dozen destinations in its own right, domestically, the capital cities except Hobart, in fact it does not fly to Tasmania at all. Regional services are done by subsidiary airlines, all one class, no choice. No first class to Japan, Honolulu, Mumbai, Johannesburg, Manila or Djarkarta. Most of the mentioned destinations will be "served" by Jetstar in the near future, again no choice. First class round trip from SYD to JFK $20000+, business class $16000+, who do Qantas compete with, no-one. Thai Airways can operate two flights a day to Sydney from Bangkok, Qantas one, Brisbane three times a week, Qantas none, Perth three times a week, Qantas none, Cathay, Cairns to HKG three times a week, soon to be six, Qantas none. Anywhere in the South Pacific, Qantas none, same in South America, same in Europe except FRA and LHR.
Qantas has become a ferry service for Australian passengers from SYD to those places where QF management feel safe and to bring them home again. It does not compete with anyone. Thai Airways International and Singapore Airlines, in their First Class cabins are still doing what QF used to do ten years ago, caviar, lobster, foie gras, oysters, silver service, experienced cabin crew, sublime luxury. The accommodations in QF P/C set a new "park bench" mark in comfort and the cuisine is nothing more than sidewalk cafe food. GD's cost cutting has set a new high in mediocrity. Economy class is not worth the mention and J/C is not much better.
Sorry for the rant, but it irks me that a formerly great airline has been reduced to a rump for the personal financial gratification of its management.
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"GD's cost cutting has set a new high in mediocrity. "
Anywhere else and that statement would be a contradiction in terms but QF has made it a motto with the exception of remuneration for board members of course.
"GD's cost cutting has set a new high in mediocrity. "
Anywhere else and that statement would be a contradiction in terms but QF has made it a motto with the exception of remuneration for board members of course.
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Blue Blankets Block Brascos
Hi all.
Does anyone know anything about blankets being flushed down aircraft toilets? The QF64 from JNB was delayed almost 24 hours earlier this week because the toilets were not working. Engineers initially found that a blanket had been flushed down the toilet, then, on further investigation, 3 (or 4?) more blankets were found flushed down other toilets. Big repair job - big delay. This was fact.
Now, the rumour I have also heard from a ground engineer upline is that there were about 4 aircraft grounded for the same reason.
I think this is probably a case of chinese whispers, but I am wondering if anyone else has heard anything about this...
Does anyone know anything about blankets being flushed down aircraft toilets? The QF64 from JNB was delayed almost 24 hours earlier this week because the toilets were not working. Engineers initially found that a blanket had been flushed down the toilet, then, on further investigation, 3 (or 4?) more blankets were found flushed down other toilets. Big repair job - big delay. This was fact.
Now, the rumour I have also heard from a ground engineer upline is that there were about 4 aircraft grounded for the same reason.
I think this is probably a case of chinese whispers, but I am wondering if anyone else has heard anything about this...
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Does anyone know anything about blankets being flushed down aircraft toilets?
CC as a whole (hole) are blamed for Sabotage.
You guys are your own worst enemies because any sypathy for your plight flys out the window when havoc is created and someone else has to clean up the mess..
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From what I know it's no Chinese whispers. Aircraft in LAX last week multiple blankets in toilet system , The QF 64 in JNB 20 hours late same defect and OJP (kangaroo fleet) being fixed same defect on Friday night in SYD.
CC as a whole (hole) are blamed for Sabotage.
You guys are your own worst enemies because any sypathy flys out the window when havoc is created and someone else has to clean up your mess..
CC as a whole (hole) are blamed for Sabotage.
You guys are your own worst enemies because any sypathy flys out the window when havoc is created and someone else has to clean up your mess..
There must be some pretty upset people out there if it has come to this, though. And it could be anyone - if these aircraft were "sabotaged" before they left Sydney, the culpit could be anyone! There are a LOT of unhappy QF staff out there, from all departments in the company. CC are not the only ones with access to aircraft...
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Bolty........
How do you know its CC.
There is no reason why CC would want to delay a departure of an a/c such as QF64 its a long enough tour of duty as it is, why would you want to make it even more punishing?
you should be careful about making such outrageous statements.
What proof do you have that it was CC.
SHAME ON YOU!
How do you know its CC.
There is no reason why CC would want to delay a departure of an a/c such as QF64 its a long enough tour of duty as it is, why would you want to make it even more punishing?
you should be careful about making such outrageous statements.
What proof do you have that it was CC.
SHAME ON YOU!
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I made no such allegation nor do I have proof.
I merely relayed the sentiment of the engineers on the front line whom have to remove these blankets from the toilet system. A very ****ty job. The fact that this happened across 3 aircraft in a week would make anyone suspicious. And there are other cases of sabotage which have been going on for months, the way the drains are blocked by a certain object (which I won’t name here) We engineers often find a dozen of these objects in drains system when the Y class galley drain blocks up.
Cart I am sure you would speak for your self in saying that you would do no such stupid act but can you speak for every single LH CC.
I have only written what many are thinking based on circumstantial evidence, you have a right to be outraged but if you look at the same “incident” happening thrice in a week it would appear that it was planned.
I made no such allegation nor do I have proof.
I merely relayed the sentiment of the engineers on the front line whom have to remove these blankets from the toilet system. A very ****ty job. The fact that this happened across 3 aircraft in a week would make anyone suspicious. And there are other cases of sabotage which have been going on for months, the way the drains are blocked by a certain object (which I won’t name here) We engineers often find a dozen of these objects in drains system when the Y class galley drain blocks up.
Cart I am sure you would speak for your self in saying that you would do no such stupid act but can you speak for every single LH CC.
I have only written what many are thinking based on circumstantial evidence, you have a right to be outraged but if you look at the same “incident” happening thrice in a week it would appear that it was planned.
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QF keep a record of all operating crew and details.
It would be quite easy to Cross reference the flights and see if they are manned by the same persons.
Although at first it may seem obvious that it is a CC, that may not be the case.
Don't forget bolty that a lot of CC are ex engineers and some of the stories they have divulged to us do not make our engineering staff being above certain questionable acts!
lets not get into a slanging match as it serves no purpose!
The individuals involved may be the last people we suspect!
Even though we may have some bad apples amongst us I doubt very much that we could have someone so irresponsible to do that,we spend most of our time apologizing and fixing toilets and equipment not sabotaging it!
The individual or individuals concerned in this act are obviously very sick and need help.........like a boot up the @rse the sack and fined.
It would be quite easy to Cross reference the flights and see if they are manned by the same persons.
Although at first it may seem obvious that it is a CC, that may not be the case.
Don't forget bolty that a lot of CC are ex engineers and some of the stories they have divulged to us do not make our engineering staff being above certain questionable acts!
lets not get into a slanging match as it serves no purpose!
The individuals involved may be the last people we suspect!
Even though we may have some bad apples amongst us I doubt very much that we could have someone so irresponsible to do that,we spend most of our time apologizing and fixing toilets and equipment not sabotaging it!
The individual or individuals concerned in this act are obviously very sick and need help.........like a boot up the @rse the sack and fined.
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3 a/c in a week suggests a group of individuals...bastards.
The QF 63 (OJP)leaving sydney on thursday had 6 toilets U/S 3 hours out of JNB.
Find the culprits and crucify them.
Bugger the Company but dont hurt your colleagues.
Personally I dont think its CC...but it bloody well needs to stop.
In LAX , a few months, ago multiple interphones were being damaged (for awhile) causing delays of several hours
The QF 63 (OJP)leaving sydney on thursday had 6 toilets U/S 3 hours out of JNB.
Find the culprits and crucify them.
Bugger the Company but dont hurt your colleagues.
Personally I dont think its CC...but it bloody well needs to stop.
In LAX , a few months, ago multiple interphones were being damaged (for awhile) causing delays of several hours
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be warned you scurvy dogs
[quote=cartexchange;2986494]QF keep a record of all operating crew and details.
It would be quite easy to Cross reference the flights and see if they are manned by the same persons.
Although at first it may seem obvious that it is a CC, that may not be the case.
Don't forget bolty that a lot of CC are ex engineers and some of the stories they have divulged to us do not make our engineering staff being above certain questionable acts!
lets not get into a slanging match as it serves no purpose!
The individuals involved may be the last people we suspect!
Even though we may have some bad apples amongst us I doubt very much that we could have someone so irresponsible to do that,we spend most of our time apologizing and fixing toilets and equipment not sabotaging it!YES THEY DO KEEP RECORDS AND YES THEY ARE CROSS REFERENCING CREW/FLIGHTS WITH TOILET /BLANKET ISSUES, SO TO THE BUNG HOLE BANDIT WHOEVER SHE/HE MAYBE , BE WARNED CENTRE LINK MAY AWAIT
It would be quite easy to Cross reference the flights and see if they are manned by the same persons.
Although at first it may seem obvious that it is a CC, that may not be the case.
Don't forget bolty that a lot of CC are ex engineers and some of the stories they have divulged to us do not make our engineering staff being above certain questionable acts!
lets not get into a slanging match as it serves no purpose!
The individuals involved may be the last people we suspect!
Even though we may have some bad apples amongst us I doubt very much that we could have someone so irresponsible to do that,we spend most of our time apologizing and fixing toilets and equipment not sabotaging it!YES THEY DO KEEP RECORDS AND YES THEY ARE CROSS REFERENCING CREW/FLIGHTS WITH TOILET /BLANKET ISSUES, SO TO THE BUNG HOLE BANDIT WHOEVER SHE/HE MAYBE , BE WARNED CENTRE LINK MAY AWAIT
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Hey, look on the bright side - at least it is keeping some engineers in a job ;-) Imagine if nothing ever broke down or went wrong... Ummm, no? *JOKE* Oh, that's right - no jokes or I get a clause 11! Woops.
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Rumour verification
'have heard from a VERy reliable source that this rumour is indeed CORRECT.
There is a full on investigation taking place as we speak !!!
They ( Management) have 1 suspect, after pulling rosters apart.
Stay tuned for more updates.
Sure we all bitch and winge on here at times, but this act is the lowest of low.
This individual...... if prooven guilty should be booted with no representation .
No wonder Management thinks we're all scumbags.
There is a full on investigation taking place as we speak !!!
They ( Management) have 1 suspect, after pulling rosters apart.
Stay tuned for more updates.
Sure we all bitch and winge on here at times, but this act is the lowest of low.
This individual...... if prooven guilty should be booted with no representation .
No wonder Management thinks we're all scumbags.
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Fuel to the Fire ....
The rumour mill is in overdrive at the moment about the blanket down the toilet affair. At least it gives us all something else to talk about instead of job security.
From what i've heard it appears the blanket was stuffed on the outbound SYDJNB sector QF63 and caused a large leakage into the hold of the aircraft on the return sector QF64 when the pipes burst... will let you all imagine what i am talking about there.
And yes, there is a full investigation going on and i think someone will be losing more than just there staff travel benefits. *(Speaking of which have you seen the great NOT deals on offer to us with JQ International)*
Also ...
This aircraft OJP arrived in on friday as QF64 and was supposed to operate as the QF31 that afternoon/night. Subsequently this flight was cancelled and 300+ people overnighted in hotels or sent home in cabs for the following day.
On Saturday OJP operated the QF1 which left the terminal and returned due to engineering. Again overnighting of almost 400 passengers and departing sunday morning. A good decision for those passengers who had chosen this flight instead of the QF31 delay flight. A complete nightmare from what i heard and it even made the Sunday Telegraph today (although how the newspaper says the aircraft came from CHC i dont want to know).
Can you imagine how those passengers felt who were booked on QF31 (fri) and then QF1 (sat) felt. Luckily OJP successfully operated the QF1 (sun).
Well there is my spiel for the night. Hope you all get your kicks from it
From what i've heard it appears the blanket was stuffed on the outbound SYDJNB sector QF63 and caused a large leakage into the hold of the aircraft on the return sector QF64 when the pipes burst... will let you all imagine what i am talking about there.
And yes, there is a full investigation going on and i think someone will be losing more than just there staff travel benefits. *(Speaking of which have you seen the great NOT deals on offer to us with JQ International)*
Also ...
This aircraft OJP arrived in on friday as QF64 and was supposed to operate as the QF31 that afternoon/night. Subsequently this flight was cancelled and 300+ people overnighted in hotels or sent home in cabs for the following day.
On Saturday OJP operated the QF1 which left the terminal and returned due to engineering. Again overnighting of almost 400 passengers and departing sunday morning. A good decision for those passengers who had chosen this flight instead of the QF31 delay flight. A complete nightmare from what i heard and it even made the Sunday Telegraph today (although how the newspaper says the aircraft came from CHC i dont want to know).
Can you imagine how those passengers felt who were booked on QF31 (fri) and then QF1 (sat) felt. Luckily OJP successfully operated the QF1 (sun).
Well there is my spiel for the night. Hope you all get your kicks from it