FYI Jetconnect are Recruiting (Long and Short haul)
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FYI Air New Zealand recruiting.......
Wannabees here is your chance !!!
A third of Qantas's AKL based FAs have left this year due to inhumane working conditions.
Air New Zealand are recruiting NOW.
A great opportunity to work as a flight attendant AND be treated like a human being.
Click on the following link, click search and enter "recruiting".
http://www.airnz.co.nz/default.htm
Good Luck
A third of Qantas's AKL based FAs have left this year due to inhumane working conditions.
Air New Zealand are recruiting NOW.
A great opportunity to work as a flight attendant AND be treated like a human being.
Click on the following link, click search and enter "recruiting".
http://www.airnz.co.nz/default.htm
Good Luck
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jetsetMN : Thanks for the news, I just got my invitation today 
speedbirdhouse: Air NZ have completed the recruitment drive for International Flight Attendant for 2005...next time sometimes in 2006 ... What do you mean with Qantas inhumane working conditions?? anybody got info about that??
Will let you know how all of this is going...and btw I have also been shortlisted with freedom air for a telephone interview, amazing I got more chances with NZ rather than OZ!
speedbirdhouse: Air NZ have completed the recruitment drive for International Flight Attendant for 2005...next time sometimes in 2006 ... What do you mean with Qantas inhumane working conditions?? anybody got info about that??
Will let you know how all of this is going...and btw I have also been shortlisted with freedom air for a telephone interview, amazing I got more chances with NZ rather than OZ!
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surfnetb,
the following is a post made by a jetconnect/Qantas AKL based long haul FA just a few days ago.
60 have resigned this year due to poor working conditions.
A little research on your behalf may save you a lot of pain...........
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"Eastern Boy...
Hey there Eastern Boy,
In regards to your post, were you by any chance in the hotel on the 21st of Sep with that Short Haul Hostie who now flies out of AKL and she was doing a PVG pattern? If so she is also a VERY good friend of mine. (Small World)
In regards to our pay, yes that is also correct, but our pay conditions were alot better before Jetconnect took over us and dwindle our conditions even more again. This is why i am saying that we as AKL crew are sick of it aswell, and are not going to take this bulls''t anymore.
Now that we are pemanent we CAN do something about it, and we are ALL going to stick together and get this done.
At this point in time, roughly 70% of Kiwi AKL based crew are in our union, with only 20% of the new Australian crew in our union.
The harsh fact at the moment in Auckland is that their is a split within our base between alot of kiwi AKL based crew and Australian hired AKL based crew.
As i have stated in another post, only around half of the crew who came over from Australia were strike breakers, and let me also tell you this... You will know who they are when you fly with them.
As i think most would agree, we as AKL crew work very hard, slog our arses off for what we do, and are usually the first to be out their with water, juice or get those call bells... But over time this has dwindled, and even more so since the new crew have come in with SERIOUS issues.
It is a known fact in AKL that these strike breakers are LAZY, GOSSIP, RUDE and down right think the world owes THEM a favour!!!
We were once very PROUD of our base, and even being able to work for Qantas... even just putting on our old uniform and putting it all together, you felt something special.
AKL base has become a place for those who are dis hearted, dont care, and just see it as an 'oppurtunity' to get into SYD base, which i have to say, is never going to happen.
Qantas are also giving us, just like the SYD/BNE/PER/MEL crew the same umbrella.... You either accept what we are doing or we will re-hire people within AUSTRALIA who will do the job and not care about anything, who they are, their dignity, nothing!!!
This is why i ahve said before, we are not going to ACCEPT it, and we need all bases to stick together, regardless of what nationality, base, religion... in order to get to each other lean on one another, gather ideas adn get it sorted... we all do have an education, a brain and we all know damn well we can think outside the square...lets do it...
God bless
Pico_or_goodrich?
PS: Currently word has it two classes are in training in Australia for AKL base, with those applicants selected in Australia.
AKL base will also be hiring another 80 crew very soon...Oct is apparently the case."
the following is a post made by a jetconnect/Qantas AKL based long haul FA just a few days ago.
60 have resigned this year due to poor working conditions.
A little research on your behalf may save you a lot of pain...........
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"Eastern Boy...
Hey there Eastern Boy,
In regards to your post, were you by any chance in the hotel on the 21st of Sep with that Short Haul Hostie who now flies out of AKL and she was doing a PVG pattern? If so she is also a VERY good friend of mine. (Small World)
In regards to our pay, yes that is also correct, but our pay conditions were alot better before Jetconnect took over us and dwindle our conditions even more again. This is why i am saying that we as AKL crew are sick of it aswell, and are not going to take this bulls''t anymore.
Now that we are pemanent we CAN do something about it, and we are ALL going to stick together and get this done.
At this point in time, roughly 70% of Kiwi AKL based crew are in our union, with only 20% of the new Australian crew in our union.
The harsh fact at the moment in Auckland is that their is a split within our base between alot of kiwi AKL based crew and Australian hired AKL based crew.
As i have stated in another post, only around half of the crew who came over from Australia were strike breakers, and let me also tell you this... You will know who they are when you fly with them.
As i think most would agree, we as AKL crew work very hard, slog our arses off for what we do, and are usually the first to be out their with water, juice or get those call bells... But over time this has dwindled, and even more so since the new crew have come in with SERIOUS issues.
It is a known fact in AKL that these strike breakers are LAZY, GOSSIP, RUDE and down right think the world owes THEM a favour!!!
We were once very PROUD of our base, and even being able to work for Qantas... even just putting on our old uniform and putting it all together, you felt something special.
AKL base has become a place for those who are dis hearted, dont care, and just see it as an 'oppurtunity' to get into SYD base, which i have to say, is never going to happen.
Qantas are also giving us, just like the SYD/BNE/PER/MEL crew the same umbrella.... You either accept what we are doing or we will re-hire people within AUSTRALIA who will do the job and not care about anything, who they are, their dignity, nothing!!!
This is why i ahve said before, we are not going to ACCEPT it, and we need all bases to stick together, regardless of what nationality, base, religion... in order to get to each other lean on one another, gather ideas adn get it sorted... we all do have an education, a brain and we all know damn well we can think outside the square...lets do it...
God bless
Pico_or_goodrich?
PS: Currently word has it two classes are in training in Australia for AKL base, with those applicants selected in Australia.
AKL base will also be hiring another 80 crew very soon...Oct is apparently the case."
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......save me a lot of pain ....
I don't believe when a wannabe finally realises his/her dream it can be anything other than satisfaction...why would you accept a job if you don't like the conditions?
I don't believe when a wannabe finally realises his/her dream it can be anything other than satisfaction...why would you accept a job if you don't like the conditions?
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surfnetb,
you may care to consider that there are people here speaking from experience with regard to Qantas 's AKL base and it's crew conditions or lack thereof..............
30% or so of the base have resigned this year for a reason............
you may care to consider that there are people here speaking from experience with regard to Qantas 's AKL base and it's crew conditions or lack thereof..............
30% or so of the base have resigned this year for a reason............
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OK thanks for your advices. But you would agree that for someone new it is not that easy to find what is rumor and what is fact? There will always be black and white and instead of letting others influencing my decisions with black I prefer to get the information right at the source (unless I know for sure what I get is verified information) You're right maybe I should search more about the subject but I did it for a while and there are so many posts on PPrune that I didn't find what I wanted and I feel like I would need to spend the whole night for that ( even using ' search', am I that bad?? )... Again I do appreciate your help, just that I would prefer to read more positive comments than negative ones ( btw if 30% have left , it means that 70% have stayed for a reason? 
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Cheers.
( btw if 30% have left , it means that 70% have stayed for a reason? )Cheers.
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Flying just isnt as it was. Conditions are changing. Gone are the days where new recruits will earn big dollars and work under the conditions of crew who have been employed at Qantas for many years.
If you want to fly ...Just go for it.. Its not a prision sentance, you can leave. Jetstar have had many resignations in the last couple of month[ at least 15] however there is never a shortage of people to fill new positions.
Would be interested to know though, what is so bad about the AKL base that so many have resigned?
If you want to fly ...Just go for it.. Its not a prision sentance, you can leave. Jetstar have had many resignations in the last couple of month[ at least 15] however there is never a shortage of people to fill new positions.
Would be interested to know though, what is so bad about the AKL base that so many have resigned?
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Maybe the salary has a lot to do with it. As noted on another thread in your bank account each fortnight all you receive is NZ $936.00 your only other form of income is cash allowances at the hotel. Sure these allowances can build up your overall salary but if you get a few low allowance trips like South Africa you may start wondering where next weeks rent is going to come from.
But I agree with other people on this thread and others. If you are Australian this is your only option when it comes to flying long haul with our national carrier, therefore if you dont plan on flying as a career Auckland maybe a great opportunity for a few years, its just not sustainable in my opinion from a salary point of view in the long term.
But I agree with other people on this thread and others. If you are Australian this is your only option when it comes to flying long haul with our national carrier, therefore if you dont plan on flying as a career Auckland maybe a great opportunity for a few years, its just not sustainable in my opinion from a salary point of view in the long term.
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I flew shorthaul for 18 months with Jetconnect as a FA and CSM and loved it - infact it is the best job I've ever had.
Sure the money and conditions left a bit to be desired, however that was made up for in the great team of FA's and Pilots you got to work with everyday, the team of people there were amazing.
I totally agree though that Jetconnect is not a career option, it is a stepping stone to something bigger and that is something that the management never hid either. The long hours and low pay will eventyally take their toll.
Perhaps something that Jetconnect has to consider now is that airline jobs are plentyful - unlike when they first began. I now work for a smaller airline in another country, in a different role, earning easily twice what I did as a CSM at Jetconnect and I'm home every night.
With the market opening up, especially in Australia, it is only a matter of time before companies like Jetconnect will need to raise their conditions of employment or face a massive skill shortage.
overhere
Sure the money and conditions left a bit to be desired, however that was made up for in the great team of FA's and Pilots you got to work with everyday, the team of people there were amazing.
I totally agree though that Jetconnect is not a career option, it is a stepping stone to something bigger and that is something that the management never hid either. The long hours and low pay will eventyally take their toll.
Perhaps something that Jetconnect has to consider now is that airline jobs are plentyful - unlike when they first began. I now work for a smaller airline in another country, in a different role, earning easily twice what I did as a CSM at Jetconnect and I'm home every night.
With the market opening up, especially in Australia, it is only a matter of time before companies like Jetconnect will need to raise their conditions of employment or face a massive skill shortage.
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I have decided to extend my stay until the latest possible time on Sunday on this basis - but unfortunately cannot stay for Monday as I have a current work commitment that day.
Hope this works out for me..?!
Can't wait - never been to AKL before!
Hope this works out for me..?!
Can't wait - never been to AKL before!
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There are many Australians in the Auckland base and most of them are not strike breakers....
Strike breaker intake were people who had applied for jobs with Qantas in OZ and were never given the opportunity to begin their flying caree. Subsequently as an alternative some of them were offered AKL base and accepted this offer.
Yes the conditions are difficult and not the way we would like them to be, however I find it inapprpiate to say that they as severe as people say....
Jetconnect does offer career progressment with Dedicated First and Business class Flight Attendant for Long Haul crew and also are recruiting Cabin Crew Trainers.
By Far this is more opportunity for us to progress our careers as previously with Adecco we were contracted and unable to sustain any job security or hope of change or progressment as Flight Attendants, however we now work for a wholly owned subsidiary of Qantas and have better staff travel conditions.
For all those applying from Australia, New Zealand and Australia have an open immigration policy for Australians and Jetconnect welcomes applications from Australians to apply.
It is a FUN, DYNAMIC, INTERESTING and ADVENTOUROUS lifestyle and your attitude and motivation will make it work for you only YOU will determine what you make of it.
Many people leave because they are unhappy after 5 or 6 years in AKL base and have seen many changes with contractor to jetconnect such as small things, Eg: we now passenger in Economy instead of Business when positioning as crew on tasman and domestic flights... I am sure that this is not the reason they have left however only small changes have occured since the changeover and if anything things have became better and more promosing...
Yes the salary may be below the norm... Allowances do deffinately help however u must always remember that we chose to be here and take the job and know what we are in for... If we leave they just recruit one of the hundreds of people who want our jobs...
I wish you all LUCK with your application and want you to remember that if flying is your dream, you will enjoy it.
For all you aussies coming over.... It is only 3hrs away from OZ and u always pass by OZ when going on a trip apart from AKL to LAX. Kiwi people are lovely and we always welcome newcomers to our land...
Be postivie
SMILE and GOOD LUCK
Strike breaker intake were people who had applied for jobs with Qantas in OZ and were never given the opportunity to begin their flying caree. Subsequently as an alternative some of them were offered AKL base and accepted this offer.
Yes the conditions are difficult and not the way we would like them to be, however I find it inapprpiate to say that they as severe as people say....
Jetconnect does offer career progressment with Dedicated First and Business class Flight Attendant for Long Haul crew and also are recruiting Cabin Crew Trainers.
By Far this is more opportunity for us to progress our careers as previously with Adecco we were contracted and unable to sustain any job security or hope of change or progressment as Flight Attendants, however we now work for a wholly owned subsidiary of Qantas and have better staff travel conditions.
For all those applying from Australia, New Zealand and Australia have an open immigration policy for Australians and Jetconnect welcomes applications from Australians to apply.
It is a FUN, DYNAMIC, INTERESTING and ADVENTOUROUS lifestyle and your attitude and motivation will make it work for you only YOU will determine what you make of it.
Many people leave because they are unhappy after 5 or 6 years in AKL base and have seen many changes with contractor to jetconnect such as small things, Eg: we now passenger in Economy instead of Business when positioning as crew on tasman and domestic flights... I am sure that this is not the reason they have left however only small changes have occured since the changeover and if anything things have became better and more promosing...
Yes the salary may be below the norm... Allowances do deffinately help however u must always remember that we chose to be here and take the job and know what we are in for... If we leave they just recruit one of the hundreds of people who want our jobs...
I wish you all LUCK with your application and want you to remember that if flying is your dream, you will enjoy it.
For all you aussies coming over.... It is only 3hrs away from OZ and u always pass by OZ when going on a trip apart from AKL to LAX. Kiwi people are lovely and we always welcome newcomers to our land...
Be postivie
SMILE and GOOD LUCK
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C U there
Hey guys,
C u all there, ill be watching you all!!! so smile smile smile, dont hesitate to approach us, and talk.
Looking forward to meeting you all!!!
the one word i can give you, is be yourself. Uve been invited for a reason, but look for a long day tomorrow. Study jetconnect, New Zealand, Australia and QF and youll be fine!!!!
All the best, goodluck and if you see me tomorrow dont hesitate to say hello to me...
Mikey
C u all there, ill be watching you all!!! so smile smile smile, dont hesitate to approach us, and talk.
Looking forward to meeting you all!!!
the one word i can give you, is be yourself. Uve been invited for a reason, but look for a long day tomorrow. Study jetconnect, New Zealand, Australia and QF and youll be fine!!!!
All the best, goodluck and if you see me tomorrow dont hesitate to say hello to me...
Mikey
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AKL BASE QF
I have a few questions for AKL base crew, hope you can help.
1.Would it possible to cpmmute from SYD?? I do have staff travel companion benifits with QF.
2. you get SYD slips??
3.What is the duration of your trips??
4.Is the salary really that bad??
Thanks, keen for the position, just want to know what I would be getting myself in for.
1.Would it possible to cpmmute from SYD?? I do have staff travel companion benifits with QF.
2. you get SYD slips??
3.What is the duration of your trips??
4.Is the salary really that bad??
Thanks, keen for the position, just want to know what I would be getting myself in for.
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These "Strike Breakers"
You know what I am still having trouble getting my head around.....I thought that to be a "strike breaker" there has to be strike?? I am aware that there was talk of a possible strike...that never eventuated because there was an agreement made between the FAAA and Qantas that may or may not have suited all parties but can you tell me with an organisation as large as Qantas and other organisations as large will everone be in total agreement. From my knowledge there were a group of Australians that were given the opportunity of a life time and yes not under the most fantastic of circumstances to fulfill a life time dream. And at the end of a short training and for some during training the opportunity was taken away. If there was such a thing as a perfect world the reason for their employmet would not have arrose - but for those with there heads out of the clouds- Qantas is a buisness and as such is there to make some sort of a profit and yes this does come at the detriment of the employee at times - ( but in fact they still have it comparetly quite good ) So yes there are some Aujstralians that now reside in New Zealand that have been trained twice for the one job. I take my hat off to these people who have the guts to take there dream to the enth degree to achieve what there heart desires. AND TO ALL THOSE NAY SAYERS If you think that what happened to Ansett and all its employees could not happen to other airlines - think again - as airlines are collapsing all the time....it is not our right to work any job but our good fortune to be selected for the position by the company. As an ex Ansett employee I would have done the same thing to get back in the air to do the job of a life time and I congratulate those who did - and who succeeded. And I have had the fortune to fly with these so called LAZY aussies and I can say that thet are not all like that but alas there are some that are - but there are some main liners that fit that bill - as well as some kiwis that do to - as I mentioned before this is a big company and you get all types.....so if you cant stand the heat people GET OUT OF THE 
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hoova,
what part of being a scab don't you understand?
A scab [strikebreaker] is someone who agrees to take the work of an individual or individuals who withdraw or in our case, threaten to withdraw their labour during an industrial dispute.
This industrial dispute was in relation to the offshore LHR base and it's effect on future Australian FA jobs and on the pay and conditions of thousands of existing Australian based FAs.
Those who WILLINGLY trained in secret to do this work were in NO doubt as to what they were going to be used for.
*Secret passwords were used.
*Buses with blacked out windows were used.
*Training was carried out off base in a secret location.
*Training was carried out WAY [back of clock] outside normal business hours.
Your attempt to explain away the actions of these lowlife will fail.
Perhaps the irony will be lost on you, [irony requires a degree of intelligence] however the dispute in question was for the most part a battle to keep our jobs in Australia, thus preventing the need to leave the country to ge a job with OUR FLAG CARRIER.
Justifying the actions of scabs that undermine that effort defies ALL concepts of logic, especially for a wannabee Australian FAs.
On another thread scabs have been described as "human filth".
I cant argue with the sentiment.
what part of being a scab don't you understand?
A scab [strikebreaker] is someone who agrees to take the work of an individual or individuals who withdraw or in our case, threaten to withdraw their labour during an industrial dispute.
This industrial dispute was in relation to the offshore LHR base and it's effect on future Australian FA jobs and on the pay and conditions of thousands of existing Australian based FAs.
Those who WILLINGLY trained in secret to do this work were in NO doubt as to what they were going to be used for.
*Secret passwords were used.
*Buses with blacked out windows were used.
*Training was carried out off base in a secret location.
*Training was carried out WAY [back of clock] outside normal business hours.
Your attempt to explain away the actions of these lowlife will fail.
Perhaps the irony will be lost on you, [irony requires a degree of intelligence] however the dispute in question was for the most part a battle to keep our jobs in Australia, thus preventing the need to leave the country to ge a job with OUR FLAG CARRIER.
Justifying the actions of scabs that undermine that effort defies ALL concepts of logic, especially for a wannabee Australian FAs.
On another thread scabs have been described as "human filth".
I cant argue with the sentiment.