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Old 5th Dec 2009, 02:24
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Cabin Crew Casual (Sydney Based)

This was in todays Sydney Morning Herald. Thought some of you may be interested;

Cabin Crew Casual (Sydney Based)





MUST HAVE:
Customer service experience in a face to face environment.
The right to work and live in Australia.
Physically fit with a good attendance record in current role.

Over 18 years of age.
Between 163cm-183cm in height (desirable).

Fluent in English both written and spoken.
Prepared to work any day of the year, at any time including
weekends.
Exceptional grooming standards.

Strong interpersonal and communication skills.
AND IN POSSESSION OF:

Current Senior First Aid Certificate with 12 months validity.
Responsible Service of Alcohol Certificate.

Valid passport with a minimum of 12 months validity.
School Certificate (Year 10 or relevant work experience).
THEN WE CAN OFFER YOU:
Casual work.

Australia domestic flying based out of Sydney.

Please email your CV outlining your direct experience relating
to our "must have". Only successful applicants will be invited to interview.Email to

cabincrewsyd at tmsap dot com (remove at and dot!)

And here is the direct link at mycareer.com.au

Cabin Crew Casual (Sydney Based) job in Sydney Metro, NSW ( Customer Service and Call Centre:Customer Service )

Hope it helps somebody!
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Hmm I wonder what airline it is for? Tiger?
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I saw an ad on Seek with exactly the same wording as this and it was for casual cbin crew for someone called TMS Asia Pacific...I had never heard of them but applied anyways!
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I saw this ad on seek too...says tms asia pacific so I went on thieir website but it doesnt seem to be an airline but more a recruitmnet agency...Anyone have anymore info on the airline as I would like to apply for the Goldcoast!
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It is quite possible this is an advertisement for casual cabin crew that Jetstar will soon be hiring.

I'm Team Jetstar cabin crew currently and we have been told by management that to effectively cover peak periods of flying (ie. school holidays/Christmas), Jetstar will be employing a pool of casual cabin crew which it can call upon during these times. Recruitment of permanent full-time crew to the Team Jetstar operation will still continue alongside.

They said they were expecting to be hiring the casual crew around Jan or Feb (2010). So it fits that this ad may very well be for JQ. But who knows!
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FAAA Jetstar News

Short Term Flight Attendants
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Casuals

Attn Members,

Most of you will be aware that last week Jetstar announced an intention to engage temporary flight attendants, some of whom may be commencing next month. Jetstar has held a preliminary meeting with the FAAA to discuss their proposal and we are able to confirm the following:

- Over the next two months Jetstar may recruit a number of flight attendants
from Strategic Aviation on a short term basis to assist with covering flying over the busy summer period.

- The Company has agreed that the crew employed on a short term basis
to cover the holiday period will be used on a “Last call basis”. Which means that they will not be allocated work until all JQ and TJQ available have been exhausted.

- Going forward Jetstar may engage casual Flight Attendants on an ongoing
basis, either directly employed by the Group or through a labour contractor.

While in principle the FAAA is not opposed to the use of casuals in circumstances where their presence improves roster stability, fatigue levels, and day off bidding for existing crew, we must be satisfied and ensure that the process provides fair and reasonable outcomes for all crew involved.

The company has agreed to further discussions on this important matter.

We will of course keep members updated on any further developments in this regard.
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$4000 per month?

Isn't it casual, do you know anymore about the conditions?
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This job is to work for Jetstar as a casual. I've been invited to the assessment day on 5th Jan. anyone else going?
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I too have been invited to the RD on January 5th but have decided not to go. I've agonised over it but at the end of the day it's going to cost me ginormous amounts of money to get over there for less than 2 days to a thing I may not even be successful at and which is only casual work anyways. It seems too much of a risk, and is very short notice. I hate it, but I think I need to start small in a position in my own state first before I do anything like this.
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I wonder if the conditions will be similar to MAM. ie no staff travel + no sick pay holiday pay (the usual "perks" of a casual). Also a question i have been wondering is if we go for the casual position and get it, are we able to transfer to fulltime at some stage or is that option no longer available as we belong to the agency and JQ would have to pay a fee for us to be fulltime? Also if we are unsuccessful would it affect us in applying for other JQ/QF positions. Hmmmmmm. Im still going to go to the interview of course and find all of this information out before deciding. I applied for the JQ fulltime sydney position aswell but havent heard a thing from that. I just hope going to the casual interview wont ruin my chance at the fulltime job, whenever they decide to do more RD's!
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The original JQ EBA has provision for Casual flight attendants, and the conditions are fair - not over or underpaid.

I thought MAMers now got Staff Travel?

I couldn't find any info about casual employment in the Team JQ eba.

I guess all will be revealed on the big day (one would hope), but I really think that the conditions are dependent on whether its under the current JQ eba provisions for casuals (the EBA is fairly specific), or whether its outsourced and a new employment agreement is created.

As for staff travel, it's a benefit that is sure to guarantee that many of those whom they recruit in the coming months, stick around. From a cost saving point of view (recruitment and training is expensive), it would be a very sound investment. My understanding was that MAM introduced it for this very reason - staff retention, less training, at ultimately a minimal expense to the company.

I could be wrong - and time will tell.

Good luck. x
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any JQ crew able to shed light????

Does the 'original EBA' with the provision for casual crew mention anything about min/max hours - ie. few long shifts vs alot of short shifts.
Obviously $4k per month would be gross, on a max (ie. > 150 pm) duty hours.
Like other LCC, is there a training bond to be paid and/or uniform provided free of charge??

And, worse case scenario, when the 'casual' crew are no longer required, or have minimum hours, will they have the opportunity to apply to Team J* or QF without prejudice.

Surely there is someone out there that has the 'word' on things moving fwd.
Cheerio & Happy New Year Wannabes
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Old 2nd Jan 2010, 08:35
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They will not be on the old JQ EBA but a different contract through an agency, employing for TJI, they will have no staff travel and have no guarantee of a job after the very short term contract is up. It is only to cover a gap in JQ domestic in the short term during the busy season. It is only domestic flying as well, please keep this in mind, with no minimum hours and you would be used last if they can't find a TJQ person to do the shift, very last minute and on call...

hope that sheds more light!
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Thank you Hellorian

Points noted.
As former crew of another Singapore-owned 'cat' of an airline, it could be worse.
I'm assuming the manuals are up-to-date and you don't have to pay for crew water if it runs out.

Even if it's short-term, there'll still be the mandatory 4-5 weeks fully-paid training - dowsing fires and exacuating aircrafts at the sim etc etc.

For potential flying opportunities in a close-knit, 3 player industry where politics outweighs competence, any flying hours on the cv is positive.

I'd rather (if it was me) rock up to an assessment day with flying experience than call-centre experience. But I am Gen X, not Gen Y, so I don't expect everything to arrive on my table tray yesterday.

And I'd say, potential employers will pick up the speed of attitudes in the assessment centres.

Happy trails,
'Rotate' :-)
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sorry to say but it is def a temp thing with no guarantee...

the inside word from TJQ is that because this is a random new thing for JQ they have no idea how it will work and are a bit sceptical about how they will work within the model.

Having said that i would give it a shot, jq can be a challenging employer but its a fun job and worth doing for the experience!

Best of Luck
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Min 15 days a month availability but min 50 hours work. $20.55 per duty hour + block hour pay ($10-12 unsure yet). No staff travel, and when asked about pay for training they were again unsure yet. Training set to commence 15th feb. no mention of how long a contract would be if there was one, its all a big vague as they are still developing the position and the contract etc. guess we will see how it goes! good luck for everyone going to the interviews!
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Jet* OOL

ellie8,
Can I suggest you re-direct your South East QLD, team Jet* to the 'Jetstar Wannebees' forum in this link?
This current link is STRICTLY concerned with Casual Cabin Crew, Sydney-based.
Pl respect this space for fellow ppruner who aren't Queensland-obsessed.
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Thank you for the quality info

KK1000
Thanks for updating the forum on this - really cool to hear.
Worked out, if you do, say, 15 days per month on an average 8 hour shift (give or take, but as an average), at $20.55 ph + block pay, say at 11.50 per hour (ie. $32 x 120 hours) would equate to $3850 per month - but that is only a forecast/average.
Obviously that won't be every month, but as an 'example' of potential, not too bad.
I guess it comes downs to the individual. Whether you're prepared to take the punt or stay safe in a (ie. Wannabes) unhappy job.

I for one have flown for 4 years, are now out of it for 3 months and miss it like my mum!
Based on the Jetstar Air Asia shared 'resources' announcement yesterday, I'd say Jetstar will only grow more, and this could potential open doors (so the speak).
Do you know if the training will take place over 4-6 weeks?? It takes this long to get through things thoroughly.

RoyBoy78
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Exactly the same ad appeared in the Sydney Morning Herald today again, but this time it was for a company called "Altara"

Exact same requirements as above however the email to send your 1 page resume is careers at altara dot aero (remove and replace at and dot!)

Link to a copy on Mycareer is;

Casual Cabin Crew (Sydney Based) job in Sydney Metro, NSW ( Otherther )
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Old 10th Jan 2010, 10:15
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Thumbs up Altara Resources

I was at the recent Assessment Centres in Sydney for Casual Cabin Crew and they were jointly run by a company called Altara Resources and Jetstar.
Altara are employing as previously stated in this thread on behalf of Jetstar casual cabin crew. They were all really nice - its seems like it's a pretty new concept.
All the figues regarding wages etc - $20.55 per hour + a flight allowance was also confirmed amoungst other general wage and condition info.
It seems casuals will have to list 15 available days per month including 2 weekends (4 weekend days) and recieve a minimum of 50 hours a month but potentialy more if you want it.
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