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Helsinki was a grandfather base (literally in the case of one very recently retired pilot). But whether it can be used a temp gateway, I don't know. So long as it has good airline connections (ideally before midday), possibly.
I can see why people don't get too excited about this gig. I am pretty sure 58.5k was the starting salary 20 years ago, same for the per diems that received no adjustment along the years. Productivity pay, well yes that sounds all well and good, but why can't they pay it the following month like any respectable employer instead of waiting the following Feb? So if you get kicked out in January, then you get a big fat middle finger i.s.o. hourly pay? I have no doubt the flying is good fun, but to say this is an amazing employer that looks after their staff, I have my doubts (with what happened to certain gateways few years ago, or to a specific fleet recently).
I have no doubt the flying is good fun, but to say this is an amazing employer that looks after their staff, I have my doubts (with what happened to certain gateways few years ago, or to a specific fleet recently)
Maybe you don't know what NJE management did some years ago and also as recently as 2020. Suffice to say, it wasn't pretty. Yes, the guy in charge in 2020 is gone but a lot of the management team are still around up to and including the big boss in America.
Of course there are companies that are a lot worse but don't be naive and think NJE have your best interests at heart. There is zero loyalty from them to us if (when) push comes to shove. I hope this changes one day but I won't be holding my breath. I will say that in individual's emergency situations (health/family related) they have at times been fantastic.
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I guess you have an application in? I think this window closes tomorrow at midnight (23rd August). I did the interview about 18 years ago so my info won't be current.
Think interviews, aptitude testing, and a sim check.
Think interviews, aptitude testing, and a sim check.
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We’ve had a complaint from a member that these financials “contain highly sensitive information which should not be shared outside of NJ”.
How say you? It appears very useful gen but is it OK to be in the public domain?
How say you? It appears very useful gen but is it OK to be in the public domain?
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In their FAQ they're not sharing the information 'to not set unreasonable expectations', so I guess as long as everyone knows not to take this as what is exactly what you're going to receive it's fine?
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I guess, here indeed lies the downside to NJE - for so long, so many of the senior pilots have enjoyed this flying club to their benefit and well, no matter how good they have it, still find things to complain about.
“how say you?” What is this, a court of law? Give over, old chap.
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I’m asking your advice you knob, not turning this into a court of law.
It all looks fine, I’m going to leave this gen here, nothing too sensitive or revealing.
It all looks fine, I’m going to leave this gen here, nothing too sensitive or revealing.
some Fos are making more than long serving captains.
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I guess, here indeed lies the downside to NJE - for so long, so many of the senior pilots have enjoyed this flying club to their benefit and well, no matter how good they have it, still find things to complain about.
Let's see how you feel about this when you are that senior captain
And those same people who have been here more than five minutes have recently seen pilots of an entire fleet being fired, no matter how senior and with complete disregard fior the redundancy policy in force at the time. Thankfully that disgraceful act was eventually corrected
A few years earlier they got rid of all France and Belgium based Captains supposedly due to potentially high social security cost. I'm sure it was just a coincidence that most supporters of the then new union which still represents NJE pilots today were from those countries. I'm sure they were not trying to reduce the membership below 50% to avoid legal recognition of the union...
But yeah, us old-timers always find something to complain about no matter how good we have it.
I'm not bitter but perhaps disillusioned. Maybe more realistic than some of the posts on here which are only positive.
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Hello Mister "I just joined for my first and only post":
You are wrong, I am pretty sure. Nearly 20 years ago, when I joined, the starting salary was more like 43k EUR, but it depended on the fleet. Since 2006 the base pay is identical, irrespective of the fleet.
Correct. Also, to avoid sliding into taxable amounts of PDs. Our colleagues from the UK can already sing the "tax my PD"-song...
That is not possible, because you obviously do not know how productivity pay is calculated. Only after the end of a calendar year can one determine how many hours have been flown and how much is paid out. It is NOT linear, there are several thresholds. The first 100 hours of block time in a calendar year are "on us pilots", only then will one get some "pocket money" for those additional hours. The special "summer bonus" gets paid out monthly, probably to your own surprise.
I just heard that someone made 300k+ EUR in a year. But that means volunteering almost every off-day and selling lots of vacation days. That's nuts, I would never do this.
Wrong.
You are wrong, I am pretty sure. Nearly 20 years ago, when I joined, the starting salary was more like 43k EUR, but it depended on the fleet. Since 2006 the base pay is identical, irrespective of the fleet.
I just heard that someone made 300k+ EUR in a year. But that means volunteering almost every off-day and selling lots of vacation days. That's nuts, I would never do this.
Wrong.
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last year i got to the very last day and the Kura person told me in a debrief I missed it by 1 point on their scoring matrix. Biggest disappointment of my life.
been out of flying for 2 years now and this is the only company I’ve applied for.
I guess all we can do is wait and see.
edit: loving all the amazing insight from current crew working there. Thank you for giving us the good and the bad. Great way to remove the rose tint from our glasses
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I haven’t heard anything yet. Getting anxious.
last year i got to the very last day and the Kura person told me in a debrief I missed it by 1 point on their scoring matrix. Biggest disappointment of my life.
been out of flying for 2 years now and this is the only company I’ve applied for.
I guess all we can do is wait and see.
edit: loving all the amazing insight from current crew working there. Thank you for giving us the good and the bad. Great way to remove the rose tint from our glasses
last year i got to the very last day and the Kura person told me in a debrief I missed it by 1 point on their scoring matrix. Biggest disappointment of my life.
been out of flying for 2 years now and this is the only company I’ve applied for.
I guess all we can do is wait and see.
edit: loving all the amazing insight from current crew working there. Thank you for giving us the good and the bad. Great way to remove the rose tint from our glasses
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My biggest worry for me is that my MEIR isn’t valid. As fate would have it, I have the renewal booked for early sept. Worst part is it was originally slated for early August but work had me delay my holiday a month. Nowhere to include that in the forms.
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thank you! I hope to get to fly with you and the other NJE pilots here soon. A lot of people seem to care about the aircraft they get put on, but I’ve just found that I just like flying. The 320/321 never did much more for me than a Da42. Just keen to get back in the flight deck
Company received 800 applications of which 700 "passed" their internal screening of requirements. You can expect the next stages to follow now that the window closed and they've removed those who didn't meet the requirements.. good luck to all!
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thank you very very much for the info. Eases my mind a little