Sgnr de L'Atlantique

The accomodation during the FNB interview is of a lower level indeed, but then again one should realise that the hotel STD in the UK ia apalingly low and probably nothing else was available at that time!

On top of that, as said before, most companies do not even provide accomodation during an interview so put this in perspective please.

Its only for a night, to facilitate things for you on the day of the interview. Imagine having to take the early morning flight from wherever you are into LHR, to then jumpinto a taxi to FNB ( 60 min at least) to then start the interview process...
I prefer the ****ty accomodation above that.

The sim....well ...its true...It is an old B1900D and you do fly a sector which takes you over the alps. And yes, you only have 30 mins to study a basic pitch/power table and some basic feautures about the plane.

But boy....DID I HAVE FUN! I have been flying big busses for 10 years now, spending my last 5 years on the lazy seat of a widebody monster. But for the first time since a very long time I felt I was actually flying an airplane again! I enjoyed the handling, I enjoyed the scenario and I enjoyed the decision making.

At the end the guys handling the sim and playing my FO said that that they had very rarely seen a guy with a smile on his face throughout the whole flight!

English test....well, I just did the famous RELTA test for my present company and as with all other language tests I did before, as well as the NJE one, I have to say that I find them difficult,boring, time-stressed and non-relevant. But hey....JUST DO IT!

Theoretical....ATPL based thats true...but is that bad? I fly constantly with airline hotshots who have no idea how high you should be on 10NM final on a standard ILS approach! Guys who have no idea what an occluded front is. People who have forgotten to calculate a 3 degree descent profile from FL390 etc....
So I do understand NJE pholosophy regarding these questions as the NJE ops go much more back to the basics! And besides that, it only takes to read up on one book ( Ace the technical pilot interview) and you know absoluetly everything there is to know about this interview!
And this is something most of us should do regardless of a possible interview....just for your own sense of profesionalism!

All in all I left the interview with a very positive view regarding NJE and the people working there....regardless of the bloody hotel and the Mc donalds meal I had to take there...

The only reason why I havent joined yet is mentioned on the previous post....If not for that I would have been there yesterday!

Gottabefun

'New' recruitment process is as follows:

Laid out as 2 half days (took somewhat longer due to a lot of waiting time).
Showed up on day 1 at around noon. 8 guys with different backgrounds. Were divided into two groups. Group 1 went for the interview and sim-ride, group 2 for the group excercise and computer testing.

Interview: About 30 minutes, 3 guys in the panel. Usual Q's like 'why NJ?', 'You know you are going to take a severe paycut!!!!?'. They gave a couple of scenarious and asked: What would you do in this case?
Tech: what is Coffins Corner and Mach Tuck. Decode a (russian) METAR. They had a whiteboard with some drawings (eg. hold-entry, missed approach during circling, cross/tailwind) and asked some Q's in that.

Sim-ride: Everybody had a different scenario. First you get a normal landing pattern to get a feel for the airplane. Then you fly a SID up to cruise (all raw data!), get a malfunction of some kind. Deal with it, return, divert or continue. I asked for radar vectors to an ILS and got it. Landed on the ILS and that was it. Use your airlines calls and procedures.

Group excercise: 4 guys, and you get a scenario (eg. you are in Russia, toilet is broken and catering has gone bad. PAX (royals) just arrived. What are you going to do? You get 30 mins to make a plan, and then you have to present it to the board.

Computer tests: Takes about 4 hours (yes, 4 hours.......):
various tests like: Math test, verbal reasoning test, English comprehension test (I think that is what it's called), 30 multiple choice tech Q's, Stick and rudder test, the 250 Q's psycho test, the test where you see three instruments and have to figure out what airplane is the correct one, A memory test on tape where they give you a FL heading and frequency and then you have to type it in.
Might be more tests, but my pea-size brain was fried after that part

All in all I got a very good impression of the company. They arranged lunch, hotel (Hilton) and even transportation to and from the hotel. Good atmosphere through all the tests and a good laugh in the sim.

northern boy

Thanks for all the info. Any idea which type they use for the LeBourget sim?

Red Goose

Tonyderek,

I have been in the flying business for a couple of decades. Jet Aviation, Swiftair, a few others and, most recently, Netjets.
As far as I am concerned, and my wife and children would agree, Netjets has been so far the best.

The flying is NEVER boring, the airplanes are new, a roster you can REALLY rely on (6-5); for family life, it's definitely the best I have seen. Of course, if your dream is to fly a big aeroplane, well, this is not going to happen here... The biggest, so far, is the G5. Nothing close to an Airbus 330 or a triple 7...

If that is not a problem for you, you are welcome to apply!

Red Goose

natops

NB,

In LBG they use any sim available to test people. Can be the EMB145, Falcon 10, Citation II etc.

Gd luck.
N

Volorovescio

Hello to everyone,
I have 6700 hrs of wich 4000 PIC on medium turboprop and jet planes.
Do you have any idea on wihch airplane I can aspect after a successufl interview?
Thank you.

natops

Volorovescio,

As written time in this forum, experienced persons are most likely to get a light to medium jet, to upgrade within the year most likely on the same type.
So I think its going to be a B400, Excell, HS125, or Bravo.

But the company is the company.... If they have vacancies who need to be filled it can be a position on a big fleet. But I wouldnt count on that, the negative thing for you then is, that you will be seatlocked in the rightseat for at least 2 years. And after passing the upgrade course, you will get a smaller fleet for your first command with NJE.

Good luck!

Greetz,
N

edit: added some info N

buzzc152

I don't know how true this seat locking business thing is.....

I've met a couple of guys now who have been in the company for less than a year and are already on upgrade courses.

On my INDOC a few months back, all the experienced guys (5000hrs +) went on to the Hawker fleets plus one one the XL I think.

Buzz

ps, if it's of any interest to anyone ; I've been in NJE for just a few months and I think it's great (even got the ad hoc bonus in Jan despite having contributed nil to the company thus far !)

John Alcock

With regards to the ab initio training scheme run through OAT, does anyone know if the trainees receive any allowances or (dare I say it) pay, during the course?
Thanks

Potential

John, during the training at Oxford you get no financial support from NetJets. You have to pay the full whack (though you have the option for a larger than usual loan of £60 grand) and you have to stay at OAA accommodation for the whole course. However, as long as you don't mess things up, you know that you have a job waiting for you at the end and that your TR is going to be paid for you.

northern boy

NATOPs

Thanks for the info. Should be fun.

CaravanDriver

Hello,

I have sent my application to Net Jets about 2 weeks ago and was called last week. I had a nice chat with the guy and according to him I can expect to come for the evaluation end of april/beginning of may. He told me they would take contact again to inform me about the correct dates.
Can someone who went already tell me how long it took before they called back to give this info?

Thanks

Volorovescio

You will receive an e-mail about 15/20 days before the date they gave you on the phone interview.
Ciao

CaravanDriver

Thanks for the reply. So lets wait and study.....

Kinetic

Caravan Driver, any heads up on the specific tech and performance questions asked on the phone.

can you remeber any of them,



cheers and good luck

CaravanDriver

Well, the guy askeed why I would like to join Net Jets as precently I fly on a wide body, further he asked if I knew how Net Jets operates roughly and further some personal questions.
The tech questions: What is Cavok, what is LVP in case of take off and then 2 more but i forgat them, sorry.
It is not a problem if your answers are not completely correct. The conversation finished with the info that I can come for the selections end of april/ begining of may and that thay would provide me with some dates I can choose out. If everything goes well I can start in July. So lets wait and study.

Greetz

northern boy

Mike J and others

That tallies with what I was told during telephone screening a couple of weeks back. Apparantly due orders for mid/large cabin types and expected delivery dates some experienced pilots may possibly go onto them on joining for 18 months or so prior to upgrade.
Can't say it would bother me although I do fancy a change from slogging across the pond every week.

MJ, thanks for providing the most useful info on this thread. Be nice to fly with you one day.

Anyone going to Le Bourget end of March please pm me. Would like to compare notes.

Mister Geezer

northern boy

Thought you claimed that your current airline is a 'great airline to work for'??

northern boy

Mr Geezer,

It is, providing you live in the south of England. Great money but I spend most of it getting to work! The other problem for me is that command has now receded to sometime after 2013 and I am getting towards the big five o. Purely personal. I am in no way knocking my present employer and would say to anyone who fancied it, go for it. I certainly had a good time. I just decided that I have had enough and fortunately my circumstances allow me that choice.

Greenleader

The process for me has been as follows:

Applied early Dec 07. Telephone interview Mid Jan 08. Phone interview was very pleasant, exactly as described earlier in this thread. Invited to Interview/Sim in Feb at Farnborough. Received an email from NTA recruiting to confirm the date and let you know exactly what to expect on the two half days. Looking forward to it - will give feedback here in due course, but to date, the whole experience has been very positive and friendly.

The type of flying done by NJE sounds great, as does the rostering. The overall package seems pretty good to me, and several of my mates and colleagues are really enjoying working for the company - fleet or aircraft type seems to make little difference. To me, it looks like a good bet, but that is only my opinion.