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Good, solid operation. Well paid I believe and good Terms and conditions.
http://www.twinjet.co.uk/careers.htm
Try here, they are recruiting.
http://www.twinjet.co.uk/careers.htm
Try here, they are recruiting.
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Times are changing
Twinjet is becoming a place to work. Change is happening fast and it be fair to say that they are having growing pains but no different from everyone else in the industry. Everyone there will paint a true picture of what is going on and that is refreshing as by doing this you can put the problems right.....
There is a great bunch of people at the place and the flight operations management especially are working hard to bring the best qualities of working for an airline to a GA operator. However, overall even within the company, a team is developing and working well together.
The crew are not exposed to most of the goings ons as the management will fight your corner if there is an issue. Rosters are produced but the nature of the work means it is hard to predict what is going to happen. However, many agreements are being introduced to make things better and combat commercial pressure so you also have a life. Its not perfect yet but it is improving every day little by little.
It has a long road ahead to fix and implement all that needs doing but the resources, backing and the interest from clients to put aircraft with the company means it has a future. This is one of the reasons many of the staff are sticking with it. Other job offers are about for all current staff, but knowing how hard everyone is and has been working makes it all at the moment worth while.
There is a great bunch of people at the place and the flight operations management especially are working hard to bring the best qualities of working for an airline to a GA operator. However, overall even within the company, a team is developing and working well together.
The crew are not exposed to most of the goings ons as the management will fight your corner if there is an issue. Rosters are produced but the nature of the work means it is hard to predict what is going to happen. However, many agreements are being introduced to make things better and combat commercial pressure so you also have a life. Its not perfect yet but it is improving every day little by little.
It has a long road ahead to fix and implement all that needs doing but the resources, backing and the interest from clients to put aircraft with the company means it has a future. This is one of the reasons many of the staff are sticking with it. Other job offers are about for all current staff, but knowing how hard everyone is and has been working makes it all at the moment worth while.
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Flintstone,
You cynical old thing - you're not suggesting something has died are you??? Can't imagine why........
Touchdown,
Hmmmmm I think I know who you are
Seems like Markwheety is staying rather quiet - gone are the gushing compliments about this firm - perhaps he's rather embarassed to have got it all so wrong
You cynical old thing - you're not suggesting something has died are you??? Can't imagine why........
Touchdown,
Hmmmmm I think I know who you are
Seems like Markwheety is staying rather quiet - gone are the gushing compliments about this firm - perhaps he's rather embarassed to have got it all so wrong
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Flinty,
Translation needed old chap - whats a 'Burke and Hare', forgive my ignorance. Thread brought back to life by popular demand in 'certain' circles........ please give generously, this is a good cause
Also Kitekruncher whats all this about a 'closet' - sounds dodgy to me, something you want to share with us? Perhaps not - it may be unpalatable
Hmmmm, all very suspect
Translation needed old chap - whats a 'Burke and Hare', forgive my ignorance. Thread brought back to life by popular demand in 'certain' circles........ please give generously, this is a good cause
Also Kitekruncher whats all this about a 'closet' - sounds dodgy to me, something you want to share with us? Perhaps not - it may be unpalatable
Hmmmm, all very suspect
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Obvious to .....
If the forum writers all seem to know something, but no one writes anythng other than innuendo....well....it is hard to get a grip on things. From all the somewhat snide comments, I get the impression that the company is either gone out of business (although they are advertising) or is so terrible to work for, that no one would consider them. So what is it all you people in the know? Those of us who are not, would like to be, before sending an application off!
Breathlessly waiting for "the word."
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Sorry Stress Free, I'm getting a bit cryptic in my old age 
Burke and Hare were bodysnatchers who opened up fresh graves and sold the bodies. I thought they were well known but obviously I've been reading the 'wrong' sort of books
By the way, I was referring solely to the thread itself with no comment on the company involved about whom I know absolutely nothing. Here's a quick link for the edjimacation of anyone who's interested.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burke_and_Hare
Burke and Hare were bodysnatchers who opened up fresh graves and sold the bodies. I thought they were well known but obviously I've been reading the 'wrong' sort of books
By the way, I was referring solely to the thread itself with no comment on the company involved about whom I know absolutely nothing. Here's a quick link for the edjimacation of anyone who's interested.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burke_and_Hare
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Keeping Quiet
Hi all
Been keeping quiet as not been on the site for a while!
Im not embarassed by the situation at Twinjet, more completely dissapointed.
We came so far until around July / August last year and were making head way. For the first time in years we had an excellent reputation with the CAA and were doing things by the book and properly and business was growing at a record rate.
And Now.....
Due to the normal crap at the top with management refusing too actually make decisions and invest in their staff the spiral of decline has begun...
More crew than ever before are leaving and management still dont think the problem is with them. They will need a building on its own to store the archived crew fiiles soon!!! It is purely banging you head against a brick wall trying to talk to any of them.
Most staff are miserable and are desperate to leave, amazingly most dont work there for the goodness of their health but to make a living (Top tip if management ever read this!!) and still the management rely on favours and goodwill. What favours you did yesterday, was yesterday and thats that and screw you if you want one in return. Management dont really know this, because they dont speak to their staff and when they do they go off on a
detour.
I know the GA industry generally has the same type of operators but until October this year everone was sticking with it at Twinjet, then the mass exit began with people losing faith that all promises from earlier in teh year were empty.
They are losing the chief pilot (the best they have had - a guy with more experience than most and one they should start listening too before its too late) but they are arrogant enough to believe again that the problem is his. They get the hopes up of others they are suitable to be chief pilot when they are not... I would not be surprised if they asked one of the cabin to be chief pilot next!!
They have lost all but 2 of the crew on one fleet, and the other fleet is losing crew fast. Only one fleet in the company is stable as it is the only fleet which has ever been crewed at the minimum level of crew.
And the future....
Twinjet stand a chance if they do start to listen. Im not saying it will be with the current staff, they like high turnover of staff as they see it as a way of not having to pay increases in wages... However, when management were asked if they ever incorporate the training, recruitment and admin costs of recruiting a new pilot / staff member into their yearly budget... the room went silient. idiots.
They do now have a new CEO and hopefully he will stop this spiral of decline... In fact he should hit his targets as the company has hit rock bottom, so the only way is up!!!
As for me, I am one who has left for pastures new now, my time of waking up in the middle of the night worrying about things is over. So did I get it wrong with my comments a year ago? No I dont think so like others in the company, I believed that Twinjet actually wanted to grow and do things right. Its more naivety on my part.
And in finishing...
The other half asked me yesterday would I go back if offered
the response....
would I, I have learnt that lesson!!
Been keeping quiet as not been on the site for a while!
Im not embarassed by the situation at Twinjet, more completely dissapointed.
We came so far until around July / August last year and were making head way. For the first time in years we had an excellent reputation with the CAA and were doing things by the book and properly and business was growing at a record rate.
And Now.....
Due to the normal crap at the top with management refusing too actually make decisions and invest in their staff the spiral of decline has begun...
More crew than ever before are leaving and management still dont think the problem is with them. They will need a building on its own to store the archived crew fiiles soon!!! It is purely banging you head against a brick wall trying to talk to any of them.
Most staff are miserable and are desperate to leave, amazingly most dont work there for the goodness of their health but to make a living (Top tip if management ever read this!!) and still the management rely on favours and goodwill. What favours you did yesterday, was yesterday and thats that and screw you if you want one in return. Management dont really know this, because they dont speak to their staff and when they do they go off on a
detour. I know the GA industry generally has the same type of operators but until October this year everone was sticking with it at Twinjet, then the mass exit began with people losing faith that all promises from earlier in teh year were empty.
They are losing the chief pilot (the best they have had - a guy with more experience than most and one they should start listening too before its too late) but they are arrogant enough to believe again that the problem is his. They get the hopes up of others they are suitable to be chief pilot when they are not... I would not be surprised if they asked one of the cabin to be chief pilot next!!
They have lost all but 2 of the crew on one fleet, and the other fleet is losing crew fast. Only one fleet in the company is stable as it is the only fleet which has ever been crewed at the minimum level of crew.
And the future....
Twinjet stand a chance if they do start to listen. Im not saying it will be with the current staff, they like high turnover of staff as they see it as a way of not having to pay increases in wages... However, when management were asked if they ever incorporate the training, recruitment and admin costs of recruiting a new pilot / staff member into their yearly budget... the room went silient.
idiots.They do now have a new CEO and hopefully he will stop this spiral of decline... In fact he should hit his targets as the company has hit rock bottom, so the only way is up!!!
As for me, I am one who has left for pastures new now, my time of waking up in the middle of the night worrying about things is over. So did I get it wrong with my comments a year ago? No I dont think so like others in the company, I believed that Twinjet actually wanted to grow and do things right. Its more naivety on my part.
And in finishing...
The other half asked me yesterday would I go back if offered
the response....
would I
, I have learnt that lesson!!
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Flinty,
trust you to stir up trouble where there wasn't any
trust you to stir up trouble where there wasn't any
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Originally Posted by Touchdown
Well, maybe there is - I think Flinty could have been speaking about the company or the thread! Either way it looks like he was right!!
Originally Posted by Flintstone
I was referring solely to the thread itself with no comment on the company
Oh no you don't! I'm quite capable of getting myself into a scrap without being dragged into this one
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Sorry Flinty, I was not dragging you anywhere, merely suggesting that you accidentally hit the nail on its proverbial head as it turns out!! Are you psychic maybe?
Either way, it appears that they have lost a lot of pilots recently and noticing that they are constantly advertising for more, things are not looking good there at the moment. Maybe if they listen to the people at the bottom of the food chain (their pilots) they might have a fighting chance. I imagine they could be a very good company again if the management and bean counters will allow it. Seems like they have to gain a lot of faith and trust first though.
Either way, it appears that they have lost a lot of pilots recently and noticing that they are constantly advertising for more, things are not looking good there at the moment. Maybe if they listen to the people at the bottom of the food chain (their pilots) they might have a fighting chance. I imagine they could be a very good company again if the management and bean counters will allow it. Seems like they have to gain a lot of faith and trust first though.
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My name should really be EX-twinjetter, but I like it, so it's stuck.
Mark. Good to hear your response. A well put defence to the less worthy banter about what is without doubt a most serious matter to those involved.
I was one of the first of what is apparently a growing groundswell who jumped without knowing what was at the bottom. I was fortunate to have a soft landing.
I am not posting to either flame or defend TWJ. I can name many committed professionals there who I consider it a pleasure to have known and worked with.
I can also name a much smaller but significantly more influencial group of people who care for only one thing; themselves. These few are killing (perhaps have already killed?) a great little company that did once have the potential to go far.
I wish most of those left behind to muddle on through all the very best; but be warned the exodus is by no means complete. Sadly, those who don't deserve to be saved will be the first ones pushing their way to the lifeboats when it all starts to sink; whilst the good guys stoically play "Nearer My God to Thee...." on deck 'til they dissappear beneath the swell.......
All I can say by way of solace to the band is that there really IS life after TWJ.
Cheers
EX - TWJ
Mark. Good to hear your response. A well put defence to the less worthy banter about what is without doubt a most serious matter to those involved.
I was one of the first of what is apparently a growing groundswell who jumped without knowing what was at the bottom. I was fortunate to have a soft landing.
I am not posting to either flame or defend TWJ. I can name many committed professionals there who I consider it a pleasure to have known and worked with.
I can also name a much smaller but significantly more influencial group of people who care for only one thing; themselves. These few are killing (perhaps have already killed?) a great little company that did once have the potential to go far.
I wish most of those left behind to muddle on through all the very best; but be warned the exodus is by no means complete. Sadly, those who don't deserve to be saved will be the first ones pushing their way to the lifeboats when it all starts to sink; whilst the good guys stoically play "Nearer My God to Thee...." on deck 'til they dissappear beneath the swell.......
All I can say by way of solace to the band is that there really IS life after TWJ.
Cheers
EX - TWJ
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Being Quiet Continued...
Adding to my post from the other night there was one thing I did forget to say which is the opinions are completely my own.
I have no grudge with Twinjet and its staff and the opinions I have formed have been through personal experience. Like Twinjetter, some of the staff there have been the best I could have ever imagined to work with!
I just disagree with some of their practises and some of the issues. I did not respond to the post to get into a slagging match about the company, more to inform people what to expect at the current time but times change in AVIATION fast and thus so can Twinjet. Yes my opinions are strong but so is humble pie, and hopefully within a year I can be writing that all I know about Twinjet is completely wrong!
What is said here its up to you to make up your own opinions and ideas. Just because it did not work out for me does not mean it would not work out for you!! Thus those of you I know who are thinking about putting in an application... make up your own mind!
I have previously worked for a company which others slated to death on a similar website to this, but of which I found completely enjoyable and if it was not for the fact that they did eventually go bust, I probably would still be there.
I know other companies out there which could be considered as more or less favourable once compared to Twinjet in my opinion but as stated make up your own minds!!
I have no grudge with Twinjet and its staff and the opinions I have formed have been through personal experience. Like Twinjetter, some of the staff there have been the best I could have ever imagined to work with!
I just disagree with some of their practises and some of the issues. I did not respond to the post to get into a slagging match about the company, more to inform people what to expect at the current time but times change in AVIATION fast and thus so can Twinjet. Yes my opinions are strong but so is humble pie, and hopefully within a year I can be writing that all I know about Twinjet is completely wrong!
What is said here its up to you to make up your own opinions and ideas. Just because it did not work out for me does not mean it would not work out for you!! Thus those of you I know who are thinking about putting in an application... make up your own mind!
I have previously worked for a company which others slated to death on a similar website to this, but of which I found completely enjoyable and if it was not for the fact that they did eventually go bust, I probably would still be there.
I know other companies out there which could be considered as more or less favourable once compared to Twinjet in my opinion but as stated make up your own minds!!