Looks like a Series one-and-a-half E-Type.

Its a Flipper Research Beta as pointed out a bit oblique by BEAMR

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filper_Research_Beta

Nothing wrong with your auto spelling checker!

Yep, the Filper Research Beta, which I recall graced at least one of my treasured Observers books from the late '60s.

Beamr/Asturias, perhaps one of you would like to assume control...

I'm looking forward for Asturias56's upcoming challenge! :ok:

No no my friend - you ID'd it not me.............

An interesting looking project that went nowhere. Must say I would have guesstimated at less than 50 years old, just looking at the picture...

This wont take long but certainly this beast looks interesting.

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....6635c73c32.jpg

"An interesting looking project " - now that's English understatement!! It look so frightening I'm surprised anyone was willing to get within 100m of it!

This was a one off (although based on an existing aircraft in service) and it was for testing the benefits of Coandă effect to tackle the issues of runway length.

Mmmm..... its safety record tended to confirm that. Something about it should have been made impossible to enter the cockpit ?!!

4 engines - [coanda effect -[color=#212124]Kawasaki C-1 Asuka?

Indeed! The Kawasaki Asuka, based on C1. QSTOL test bed as tipped above. The next tip would've been that besides the runway length restrictions the designers were concerned of noise abatement. If one uses QSTOL as a search word in ones favourite search engine, the Asuka is the first to come up in pictures.
One strange looking ac with those big nacelles above wing.

Your call, sir Asturias!

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....0adee7826.jpeg
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....be4e49e60b.jpg

When the engines are almost as big as the fuselage you don't see much of a commercial future! There are some good pics of the prototype in a Japanese Air Museum.

Try this - a lot built but I'd never heard of it until recently

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....93546e2ba6.jpg

The Morane-Saulnier M.S.472 Vanneau.

Noyade is correct. They built several hundred but I'd never heard of it. I'll post some netter pics when I get back from this trip

As promised - it came with different engine fits - designed by Vichy but adopted as a standard trainer post war

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....cd4a39bc7f.jpg
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....cceb9a41e3.jpg
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....9770f90d63.jpg
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....315050820b.jpg

Cheers!

Open House.

Lets restart the thread.

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....faa4bb87e2.jpg

Not very elegant :(

Military transport?

Actually, was used both in military and civilian world, depending on the version.

I think it might be rather clumsy as it goes rushin' about

An ugly myasishchev vm-t Atlant I believe..................

I've no idea of the actual handling characteristics, but it was designed to stroll along very smoothly neverminding the terrain.


Not the Atlant.

It was a cloddish attempt by me to hint that I think I know what it is... :)

And now that you said it, it is obvious to fool ol' me too. I should've been more on the pulse, so to say. :ok:

Clod with a cushion.


https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....38485fcdfd.png

Well yes, it is the Antonov AN-14sh, the produce of brilliant minds under the influence of excessive amounts of vodka. The civilian version was An-714 with a bit different "undercarriage" setup.
Anyway, it was apparently rather difficult to handle on the ground and eventually, lo and behold, they found out that the cushion affected the aerodynamics as well...
Asturias was unknowingly correct in his statement, not very elegant piece of design indeed :D

Treadi did know what it was, me thinks, and Noyade brought up the right picture, but no one came up with the name, so... does either of you have anything at hand?

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....4e491c576.jpeg

https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....3e40d91ff.jpeg
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....31ef8a4b10.jpg

I knew it was an AN-14, I didn't know about the floor-polishing gear!

I'll stick this one up for the requisite 24 hours or so - I very much doubt it needs that long really...

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....a8d7569015.jpg

Tis a Fiat - without wheels! :ok:


https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....c5999491c7.jpg

Call it now as I'll be out shortly for a while... Noyade has it, The Fiat 7002, another whacky helicopter design recalled from my '60s Observers books (must have been hand-me-downs from elder brothers!).

Have you noticed , as we gradually exhaust the list of aeroplanes, how they're getting uglier and uglier??

I guess it's because they're weirder and weirder as well

Anything outside the x-files becomes identified in a flash, so you have a point there. Things get ugly and weird.
However, I am amazed how fast all the x-files stuff get names, too. It only takes a crop of upper tail section or half an engine nacelle for a positive id in a matter of hours.
The tricky ones are the mind blowers though.

Keep up the good work! :ok:

What amazes me is how much stuff has flown even experimentally which I've never come across before. Another large American helicopter from the 1940s which was tested by the US Mil popped up unannounced the other day (ugly describes it), and just looking for it again I chanced across several other prototype rotorcraft that were new to me.

I hope everybody can agree that we must confine us to machines that have actually flown?
Otherwise We will get lost in all Bamboo designs that never have flown.

Cropping the picture down to only the distinctive feature is totally acceptable to me.

I'm ok with seeing crops - would make it easier to find challenging images, just of better known types!

Thanks Treadi. I first saw the Fiat in the 1961 Observers. :ok:

This is all I have at the moment....


https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....23c951106e.jpg

CAMS 33 maybe?

Not a CAMS - but it is French.
There were many variants with a total build of around 45 - according to Wiki.


https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....e370bba4ac.jpg

The Loire et Olivier H-198

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....ecee1ad91.jpeg