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Self loading bear 22nd Mar 2021 10:49

Curtiss F8B/O2C
Used in King Kong movie?

Noyade 22nd Mar 2021 22:27

It is a Curtiss, but never had an opportunity to release ammunition on a morphed gorilla.
Only one built and described as "yet another of a seemingly incessant one-off variations on the Curtiss Hawk theme."
Flown in 1930.

Self loading bear 23rd Mar 2021 18:24

Curtiss YP-20 then?

Noyade 24th Mar 2021 07:18

Dunno how many hours have elapsed SLB - but it's all yours sir! :D


https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....6517e0ed19.png

Self loading bear 24th Mar 2021 21:24

Stating it was a Hawk variant was a unnecessary give away.
But thanks anyway.
Now this:

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....98fb20eac.jpeg

Noyade 24th Mar 2021 22:14

An American Flea?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Univer...ican_Flea_Ship

FlightlessParrot 25th Mar 2021 02:26

Before I saw Noyade's post, I thought it looked like something designed by someone who thought the Pou was too mainstream. But in a steep climb, it will punch above its weight in the blotting-out-the-sun department.

Self loading bear 25th Mar 2021 22:54

Indeed the American Flea.
Noyade you can flip up the shades, the stage is yours!
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....45b01c855.jpeg


Noyade 25th Mar 2021 23:42

Thanks mate!
But I think it's time for someone else to have a go.
Open House.

Cheers!

Bergerie1 27th Mar 2021 11:05

Slightly off piste but, just for fun, try this:-

teusje 12th Apr 2021 15:30

Let's try this one

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....5d30e93af1.jpg

kenparry 12th Apr 2021 15:44

Fairchild 91

teusje 13th Apr 2021 15:35

The Fairchild 91 Baby Clipper it is,
Over to you kenparry.

kenparry 13th Apr 2021 19:17

teusje,

Thank you. A fairly obscure type, it seems, with only 4 built.

Sorry, nothing on hand, so Open House

Asturias56 14th Apr 2021 16:34

here's one I'd forgotten about....................

https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....7b17da1f64.jpg

Noyade 15th Apr 2021 00:14

The "Helouan" HA-300 according to William Green back in 1964.
However, Wiki calls it "Helwan."....

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helwan_HA-300

FlightlessParrot 15th Apr 2021 07:05


Originally Posted by Noyade (Post 11028384)
The "Helouan" HA-300 according to William Green back in 1964.
However, Wiki calls it "Helwan."....

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helwan_HA-300

Different transcriptions of the Egyptian place name. I guess the -ou- version is a French transcription, which would figure with its being apparently the one used earlier in the Anglophone world, as in this caption of WW1 Australian troops in Egypt https://www.awm.gov.au/collection/P01824.001

Asturias56 15th Apr 2021 10:00

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....b99f45ae34.jpg
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....cd7182544e.jpg

Asturias56 15th Apr 2021 16:10

Ok - Noyade has it

It was really the last proper Messerschmidt I guess - but they stopped development as the Israelis kept killing the German engineers........

Noyade 16th Apr 2021 04:10

Thanks A56.

More artwork...



https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....9b1ef86368.jpg

Asturias56 16th Apr 2021 07:51

Interesting.... radial engines - but what is sticking out to starboard just above the tailplane?

Are we talking 1939-45 here?

ex82watcher 16th Apr 2021 10:20

Japanese ?

Asturias56 16th Apr 2021 14:51

I think it might be a Potez 631?

Noyade 17th Apr 2021 05:15


Originally Posted by Asturias56 (Post 11029002)
but what is sticking out to starboard just above the tailplane?

I believe it's an aerial mast - positioned so the dorsal gunner doesn't shoot it off.


Originally Posted by Asturias56 (Post 11029002)
Are we talking 1939-45 here?

Yes - first flight 1941.

Not the Potez 631.

Noyade 17th Apr 2021 05:16


Originally Posted by ex82watcher (Post 11029081)
Japanese ?

Not Japanese.

FlightlessParrot 18th Apr 2021 03:49

I do believe it is the CANSO FC.20bis.

Noyade 18th Apr 2021 05:43


Originally Posted by FlightlessParrot (Post 11029993)
I do believe it is the CANSO FC.20bis.

That's him FP. :ok:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CANSA_FC.20


https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....f180bbf568.jpg

FlightlessParrot 18th Apr 2021 10:39

Sorry for the typo on the CANSA.

This one is a replica:

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....117bb279f2.jpg

Asturias56 18th Apr 2021 12:35

I think it's Richard Pearse’s monoplane - the replica is in a museum in South Canterbury?

http://www.fiddlersgreen.net/models/...ngMachine.html



FlightlessParrot 19th Apr 2021 12:50


Originally Posted by Asturias56 (Post 11030205)
I think it's Richard Pearse’s monoplane - the replica is in a museum in South Canterbury?

Pearse Flying Machine | Aircraft |

Asturias is right: Pearse's machine, in all its hypothetical, reconstructed, powered, airborne, but not controlled bamboo splendour.

Asturias56 19th Apr 2021 16:30

Remembered an article I read about in last time I was though New Zealand.... otherwise it would have been a very long struggle!!

here's another one that didn't bother too many spotters

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....a5ce5627eb.jpg



Asturias56 21st Apr 2021 07:45

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....10424d53c0.jpg
I think it was ordered and then cancelled (reasons unknown) after about 30 built

Noyade 21st Apr 2021 09:06

I was thinking USSR but even went as far as China and Brazil - with no luck. The problem for me, was I kept thinking a curved windscreen was immediately in front of that square frame, making it a very small machine.
It isn't.

It's the Yatsenko I-28. Thanks for the nose shot!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yatsenko_I-28

Asturias56 22nd Apr 2021 07:24

I thought clipping the picture where I did might lead people somewhat astray... :E but on here you have to try SO hard

Yes it's the Yatsenko - never found out why it never went into service in numbers - it was probably a decision to concentrate on what they had rather than add another type to the production line early in the war - also haven't found a decent picture of it in the air..

over to Noyade

Noyade 22nd Apr 2021 23:34

Thanks A56. Good challenge - had me dancing around the bookshelves.
But I'll make it OPEN HOUSE for the time being.

asw28-866 23rd Apr 2021 05:55

Flew one of these once, funny little thing, and not much good at it's intended job...

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....0d5d48817f.jpg

India Four Two 23rd Apr 2021 17:24


not much good at it's intended job...
Towing gliders?

UV 23rd Apr 2021 18:17

Kittiwake. I flew in once too..... back in 69! OH if correct.

treadigraph 23rd Apr 2021 19:05

Saw the Nash Petrel development of the design at Lasham (I think) - not sure I ever saw a Kittiwake, though the prototype is owned by a chap living not far away in Oxted...

UV 25th Apr 2021 21:52

Asw?? Where are you?


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