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Noyade 18th Oct 2021 22:43


Originally Posted by asw28-866 (Post 11128650)
And to Noyade, yes I was quite enthralled by Batchelor's drawings as a child...'866

As was I and I'm sure for many others of our generation. Growing up in a small country town it was always exciting to see the latest "64 pages packed with colour" at the newsagent.
I see where he died only recently and was a prolific stamp illustrator...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_B...r_(illustrator)


https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....2ab1333f4c.jpg


asw28-866 19th Oct 2021 04:14

Clay Lacy perhaps?...

'866

Beamr 19th Oct 2021 16:11

It is military.
it is a Lear.
It is not a C21.
Bob Hoover and Clay Lacy weren't involved.

It actually is a Learjet 35A/S, the Finnish AF version with a bit more in-flight entertainment gadgets than on your average C21 or biz jet. Versatility is enhanced with underwing hardpoints. To my knowledge these were the first Learjet 35's delivered for military use in 1982. First C21's were delivered in 1984 I believe. BTW, in 1982 these replaced Il-28's as target tugs and maritime recce duties. And these are still in use, though rather extensively updated in recent years.

The picture was taken very recently while the aircraft on the picture was on a mission. Rotate the picture 90 degrees CCW and you'll find it being in a rather level attitude.

underneath is a more informative picture of a 35A/S.

So, there were many who identified, but as Lear 35 was mentioned by cavuman1, I'll offer the control to your corner.


https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....0614b8d2b4.jpg

cavuman1 19th Oct 2021 22:26

Thank you, Beamr! Let us try:


https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....e33cfa53e4.jpg

- Ed


Noyade 19th Oct 2021 22:54

Now with clouds...


https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....30372780a2.png

Lockheed XFV-1

cavuman1 20th Oct 2021 01:48

I believe I am constrained for 24 hours to tell the inimitable Noyade that the nail has been hit on the head with unusual rapidity. Well done! I am new to this thread and am open to suggestions and constructive criticism. 24 hours having elapsed, the comm is yours, Noyade.

- Ed

Noyade 20th Oct 2021 22:14

Thanks Ed.


Originally Posted by cavuman1 (Post 11129252)
Well done! I am new to this thread and am open to suggestions and constructive criticism.

Just keep doing what you're doing. :ok:

Another to solve...


https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....bc88c97743.jpg

dduxbury310 21st Oct 2021 07:02

Some sort of Bellanca?

David D

Noyade 22nd Oct 2021 04:13

Hi David.
It's French.

Beamr 22nd Oct 2021 05:19

Farman F.280 or F.281. Earlier had 7-cylinder Salmson engine and latter 4 cylinder Renault engine.
I'll take it that its the F.281, based on the amount of exhaust pipes. Original F.280 was F-ALKR, only one made but re-engined later with Renaults becoming F.281.

Noyade 22nd Oct 2021 07:04

Done! :ok:
All yours.

Beamr 22nd Oct 2021 07:45

thanks!
What are we looking at?

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....3275b1ff68.jpg

Noyade 22nd Oct 2021 17:06

Another Trimotor?
Airspeed Ferry?

Beamr 23rd Oct 2021 08:17


Originally Posted by Noyade (Post 11130683)
Another Trimotor?
Airspeed Ferry?

it certainly is,

Your call!

Noyade 23rd Oct 2021 08:25

Thanks Beamr - gotta be Open House at this stage...

Self loading bear 31st Oct 2021 10:41

Open house to long:

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....8e102f11c.jpeg

Pypard 31st Oct 2021 11:55

OH for so long, due in some part I'm sure by it being a bit of a closed-shop. When OH was called on my last submission when I hadn't even responded with confirmation of a correct answer, (post#2656) I decided to give it all a miss.

Self loading bear 1st Nov 2021 21:16


Originally Posted by Pypard (Post 11134948)
OH for so long, due in some part I'm sure by it being a bit of a closed-shop. When OH was called on my last submission when I hadn't even responded with confirmation of a correct answer, (post#2656) I decided to give it all a miss.

Welcome back Pypard/Quemerford.
You might be right that some jumped the gun a bit quickly.
I hope it will not keep you from contributing anymore now?

meleagertoo 1st Nov 2021 23:44

Despite sharing the same name as Maurice the famous french aviateur's second tipple (in the joke), it didn't have a meteoric career.

Self loading bear 3rd Nov 2021 22:24

It is indeed French and 1950s

meleagertoo 4th Nov 2021 13:44

And could perhaps be mistaken for American royalty.

Noyade 5th Nov 2021 03:11


Originally Posted by Self loading bear (Post 11136879)
It is indeed French and 1950s

There are quite a few differences to this image - but possibly the Chablis?

https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....6fd6a28311.jpg

Self loading bear 5th Nov 2021 05:56


Originally Posted by Noyade (Post 11137472)
There are quite a few differences to this image - but possibly the Chablis?

Indeed the Boisavia B-80 Chablis
Only 2 built.
You are in control

Perhaps Meleagertoo cares to explain his American Royal clue?
It was lost on me.

meleagertoo 5th Nov 2021 22:01

B80
Beech Queen Air...


Noyade 6th Nov 2021 06:39


Originally Posted by Self loading bear (Post 11137486)
You are in control

Thanks Bear. I'm incapacitated at the moment, making my bookshelves somewhat difficult to reach.
Open House.


https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....10c6a351d4.jpg





Self loading bear 6th Nov 2021 09:15

We wish you a speedy recovery!
Open House called!

Beamr 7th Nov 2021 04:28

Since OH...

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....4c1e6bc04.jpeg

Shackman 7th Nov 2021 12:01

Collins X-112 perhaps.

piesupper 7th Nov 2021 15:09


Originally Posted by Shackman (Post 11138551)
Collins X-112 perhaps.

a bigger pic here looks to confirm that

Beamr 8th Nov 2021 07:19


Originally Posted by Shackman (Post 11138551)
Collins X-112 perhaps.

It is indeed, your control!

Shackman 8th Nov 2021 16:46

My apologies for not replying sooner Bear - left early this morning. Unfortunately nothing immediately to hand, so will have to make the inevitable reply:

OPEN HOUSE

India Four Two 8th Nov 2021 18:12

Here's a type with an interesting history. I had never heard of it until last Friday.

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....0063dbdb89.png

Herod 8th Nov 2021 20:46

Jean Batten by any chance?

treadigraph 8th Nov 2021 20:48

I'd not heard of it till this Monday - the engine led me in the right direction! Rather attractive...

OUAQUKGF Ops 8th Nov 2021 21:19

Is that an Italian pennant on the tail ? Almost good enough to be related to the Miles Family.............

India Four Two 9th Nov 2021 03:12

Herod,

Nothing to do with Miss Batten.

O Ops,

Full marks for pennant spotting. I thought it had a lot of Miles characteristics as well.

OUAQUKGF Ops 9th Nov 2021 08:39

Ambrosini S1001 Grifo ?

Planemike 9th Nov 2021 13:07

Think the guy that designed it may even have seen a Percival Gull beforehand.......!!..

Haraka 9th Nov 2021 16:38

Jean Batten's Gull used to be in the back of Percival's Hangar at Luton in the 50's

India Four Two 9th Nov 2021 17:04


Ambrosini S1001 Grifo ?
That’s it. The one in my picture was the subject of a SAREX I participated in on Saturday. The organizer took some good natured ribbing for having chosen such an obscure aircraft.


https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....d606c0ee6.jpeg
In 1949, a Grifo (Griffin) flew 1800 nm from Senegal to Brazil in 17 hours. The crew took off with 800 litres of fuel on board - normal capacity was 140 litres! I calculate they were about 40% over gross!


OUAQUKGF Ops has control.


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