Name that Flying Machine
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From: Under a Cumulus
Not a challenge...
UV et al. flight characteristics of the rooster described as 'sporting' by the test pilot:
"A Handful of ChickenUnfortunately, Beltrome further reported, “The Rooster is unstable in roll and has a tendency to go into the first stages of a spin when you start to turn, if it isn’t noticed and checked.” He put in one stage of the flaperons to try to solve this problem. This is why the first flight turn was a very gentle affair with little more than 5 of bank and often less, with a very obvious and “twitchy” pitch.
Perhaps the most amazing and interesting part of the Rooster is its control system, which works in reverse to a normal three-axis-control aircraft. The control column comes down from the roof of the cockpit, and the control inputs are exactly the opposite to what one learns in normal piloting skills, so you pull back on the stick to go down and vice versa. This is the reason for some of the accidents during early taxi tests. It is apparently more like flying a delta-wing hang glider."
Full article here: https://www.kitplanes.com/when-the-rooster-flies/
And to Noyade, yes I was quite enthralled by Batchelor's drawings as a child...
'866
UV et al. flight characteristics of the rooster described as 'sporting' by the test pilot:
"A Handful of ChickenUnfortunately, Beltrome further reported, “The Rooster is unstable in roll and has a tendency to go into the first stages of a spin when you start to turn, if it isn’t noticed and checked.” He put in one stage of the flaperons to try to solve this problem. This is why the first flight turn was a very gentle affair with little more than 5 of bank and often less, with a very obvious and “twitchy” pitch.
Perhaps the most amazing and interesting part of the Rooster is its control system, which works in reverse to a normal three-axis-control aircraft. The control column comes down from the roof of the cockpit, and the control inputs are exactly the opposite to what one learns in normal piloting skills, so you pull back on the stick to go down and vice versa. This is the reason for some of the accidents during early taxi tests. It is apparently more like flying a delta-wing hang glider."
Full article here: https://www.kitplanes.com/when-the-rooster-flies/
And to Noyade, yes I was quite enthralled by Batchelor's drawings as a child...
'866
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From: New South Wales
I see where he died only recently and was a prolific stamp illustrator...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_B...r_(illustrator)
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It is military.
it is a Lear.
It is not a C21.
Bob Hoover and Clay Lacy weren't involved.
It actually is a Learjet 35A/S, the Finnish AF version with a bit more in-flight entertainment gadgets than on your average C21 or biz jet. Versatility is enhanced with underwing hardpoints. To my knowledge these were the first Learjet 35's delivered for military use in 1982. First C21's were delivered in 1984 I believe. BTW, in 1982 these replaced Il-28's as target tugs and maritime recce duties. And these are still in use, though rather extensively updated in recent years.
The picture was taken very recently while the aircraft on the picture was on a mission. Rotate the picture 90 degrees CCW and you'll find it being in a rather level attitude.
underneath is a more informative picture of a 35A/S.
So, there were many who identified, but as Lear 35 was mentioned by cavuman1, I'll offer the control to your corner.
it is a Lear.
It is not a C21.
Bob Hoover and Clay Lacy weren't involved.
It actually is a Learjet 35A/S, the Finnish AF version with a bit more in-flight entertainment gadgets than on your average C21 or biz jet. Versatility is enhanced with underwing hardpoints. To my knowledge these were the first Learjet 35's delivered for military use in 1982. First C21's were delivered in 1984 I believe. BTW, in 1982 these replaced Il-28's as target tugs and maritime recce duties. And these are still in use, though rather extensively updated in recent years.
The picture was taken very recently while the aircraft on the picture was on a mission. Rotate the picture 90 degrees CCW and you'll find it being in a rather level attitude.
underneath is a more informative picture of a 35A/S.
So, there were many who identified, but as Lear 35 was mentioned by cavuman1, I'll offer the control to your corner.
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From: Cincinnati, Ohio
I believe I am constrained for 24 hours to tell the inimitable Noyade that the nail has been hit on the head with unusual rapidity. Well done! I am new to this thread and am open to suggestions and constructive criticism. 24 hours having elapsed, the comm is yours, Noyade.
- Ed
- Ed
Last edited by cavuman1; 20th October 2021 at 16:57. Reason: Redeclaration of Victory
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From: Outer ring of HEL
Farman F.280 or F.281. Earlier had 7-cylinder Salmson engine and latter 4 cylinder Renault engine.
I'll take it that its the F.281, based on the amount of exhaust pipes. Original F.280 was F-ALKR, only one made but re-engined later with Renaults becoming F.281.
I'll take it that its the F.281, based on the amount of exhaust pipes. Original F.280 was F-ALKR, only one made but re-engined later with Renaults becoming F.281.
