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Old 27th Aug 2022, 07:16
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May I fill the OH gap with this:


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Old 29th Aug 2022, 18:43
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Great challenge, I reckon I know what it is and even better, where TCU took the photo.

I haven't got a challenge to mount should I have it right so I'll leave this to someone who can post something to keep the thread going.

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Old 29th Aug 2022, 19:57
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Very generous comment BSD

I'll offer another photo clue, which should narrow the scope, as well as including one very subtle nudge as to the location of this craft, as alluded by BSD






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Old 30th Aug 2022, 20:44
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Originally Posted by BSD
Great challenge, I reckon I know what it is and even better, where TCU took the photo.

I haven't got a challenge to mount should I have it right so I'll leave this to someone who can post something to keep the thread going.

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Yes, found it. I think the front tires need some air


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Old 30th Aug 2022, 21:43
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Thanks for the flat tyre!
We're in South Africa?



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Old 31st Aug 2022, 07:01
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Noyade. Most definitely South Africa.....and your picture is spot on!

Do the rules confirm that as a hit?






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Old 31st Aug 2022, 08:00
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Yay! That's the one I had in mind.

Brilliant museum by the way (SAAF Ysterplaat), though not the easiest to visit. I'd gone on a day when I hoped they were going to run the Shackleton but alas, it didn't happen. I wonder if they still do?
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Old 31st Aug 2022, 08:29
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I'll applaud all three of you for your diligent hunting!

Indeed it was SAAF SA-321L Super Frelon "314", with her airliner size cockpit, now spending her retirement at AFB Ysterplaat, Cape Town....the radio BTW was tuned to 124.80, Cape Town Special Rules East

The museum still holds regular public weekend open days and indeed I was there just a couple of Saturdays ago, with the super volunteers indulging us with their intimate knowledge of the many machines, their on-going restoration targets and allowing is to crawl all over them......sitting in Shackleton "722" amidships was a highlight. There is a promise of a Shackleton engine start up on 24th Sept, and if it happens, I shall record and relay

I can confirm the front tyre is now properly pumped up!











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Old 31st Aug 2022, 10:06
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Credit and control must go to the Bear.
The flat tyres.
The foreground Westland Wasp.
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Old 31st Aug 2022, 20:58
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Thanks Noyade, and TCU, nice challenge!
the pedals showed me it was not a Sikorsky
3 engines brought me to the Super Frelon
the English dials put me in the direction of South Africa. Then it was simples.

Now back to basics:


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Old 2nd Sep 2022, 09:25
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Another chopper?
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Old 2nd Sep 2022, 15:06
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Yes a wood chopper
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Old 2nd Sep 2022, 21:26
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Piaseki PV2?
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Old 2nd Sep 2022, 23:09
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Thanks for pointing that one out. I never heard of it yet. Door arrangement and cockpit shape is different. So no not a Piasecki.
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Old 3rd Sep 2022, 13:13
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It's a Landgraf H2
Never heard of it, though the search brought up several types new to me



(From Wiki) Fred Landgraf formed the Landgraf Helicopter Company in September 1943 to develop and manufacture the H-2. It had an enclosed structure for one pilot and an 85 hp (63 kW) radial engine driving two rotors, each rotor fitted to a short boom on each side of the fuselage. It had a fixed tricycle landing gear. The H-2 first flew on 2 November 1944 and the company was awarded a development contract by the United States Army. It was not developed or bought and the company ceased operations by the end of the 1940s.

Unlike conventional helicopters, the H-2 used a tension-rod drive system to drive the side-by-side rotors.[1] Control of blade pitch was also unconventional, with the blade shells rotating freely about the spars, controlled by ailerons near the tips

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Old 3rd Sep 2022, 13:34
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Landgraf H-2,
That is the one!
Mel to battle station.
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Old 5th Sep 2022, 11:42
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Old 7th Sep 2022, 05:54
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Windscreen seems almost vertical. Slow moving?
Airship?
https://www.airships.net/dirigible/

Saw these controls on an Airliner.net photo of a Goodyear airship. They look very similar to the above...




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Old 7th Sep 2022, 10:15
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Saw these controls on an Airliner.net photo of a Goodyear airship”.

Haha, too many knobs and not enough knots?!

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Old 7th Sep 2022, 11:54
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Oh dear! I thought that one might last a while but I should have known.

Noyade has it. An earlier generation of Goodyear blimp.
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