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Old 28th Sep 2022, 10:29
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Originally Posted by Noyade
A very rare machine? (I hope not )

German?
German origin Add a bit of Spanish to that.

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Old 1st Oct 2022, 01:08
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Originally Posted by MReyn24050
German origin Add a bit of Spanish to that.
Hi Mel.
CASA 1.131 Jungmann?
Noticed similar looking horseshoe padding in the front seat?


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Old 2nd Oct 2022, 10:06
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Originally Posted by Noyade
Hi Mel.
CASA 1.131 Jungmann?
Noticed similar looking horseshoe padding in the front seat?


You have it Graham it is indeed the CASA 1.131E
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Old 2nd Oct 2022, 15:24
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So, what's the purpose of that brown, horseshoe-shaped padded thing with the hole under it ?
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Originally Posted by bafanguy
So, what's the purpose of that brown, horseshoe-shaped padded thing with the hole under it ?
Unfortunately like you I have no idea. The source of the image states:- "The CASA 1.131E is the Spanish license-built Bücker Bü 131D. The E3B-555 (factory number 2153) is located in a German Museum"
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Old 2nd Oct 2022, 21:34
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Did the airplane drop any kind of bomb ? That padded thing looks like a place to rest one's head while looking though the hole. But, why would one look through that hole ?
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Actually,as `Jonny Foreigners` are known to have bigger `schnonks/schnozzles`,,the hole is so that with the instructors head on the `padding`,particularly when the student pilot ,in the back seat is attempting to land,he can be praying or `kissing his a** goodbye`,without significant damage to his facial expression,in an open casket......
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Thanks Mel. Whatever the purpose of the padding - it certainly helped with identification. Cheers.

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Old 3rd Oct 2022, 07:28
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the hole has to be to look at the back of the engine - God knows why but perhaps there was a gauge or level on the back of the engine that needed checking every so often?
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This aircraft was mentioned in 'Search this Thread' - but not illustrated.



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Old 5th Oct 2022, 11:53
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Is it a Soviet aircraft? Although the Artificial Horizon looks to be a RAF Sperry MK1 6A-599 Artificial Horizon

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Doubt it

the Gauge at the bottom right has the the words Carb Air temp. above it and second row right is marked Artificial Horizon

There's a badge at the bottom centre of the panel but is just too fuzzy to see properly

the two substantial items on the "shoulders" of the panel interest me - I suspect we're in the back seat of a trainer and those are the front seat belt points
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Originally Posted by Asturias56
Doubt it

the Gauge at the bottom right has the the words Carb Air temp. above it and second row right is marked Artificial Horizon

There's a badge at the bottom centre of the panel but is just too fuzzy to see properly

the two substantial items on the "shoulders" of the panel interest me - I suspect we're in the back seat of a trainer and those are the front seat belt points
I know where you are coming from and agree with the Carb Air Temp. The Compass looks like a RAF Compass P12.
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I thought Soviet at first, the seperate panels are Mig 15 style. Then maybe E bloc export model but it's just too British for that.
Trainer looks right, not sophisticated enough for an operational type.
radial engined I suspect due CHT gauge & low RPM
Supercharged
pretty fast
late '30s. It's a Harvard contemporary.
The seperate panels and neat fitted instrument surround are most un-British yet everything else seems to be.
What on earth is the instrument top right reading 0 - 20 in 4 unit steps? Surely that's not an altimeter, though its where the altimeter ought to be, not in the unoccupied hole, which is too far from the scan.

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Not Soviet.

Originally Posted by Asturias56
the two substantial items on the "shoulders" of the panel interest me - I suspect we're in the back seat of a trainer and those are the front seat belt points
We're in the front seat.
They're mounts for machine guns.

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It's a Harvard contemporary.
It certainly is. Radial engine.
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CAC Wirraway?

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Originally Posted by Asturias56
CAC Wirraway?
The logo you mentioned above is I believe the CAC logo.
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Old 6th Oct 2022, 16:06
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I shall sit and play my bagpipes until 24 hours have passed
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Old 7th Oct 2022, 00:08
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Originally Posted by Asturias56
I shall sit and play my bagpipes until 24 hours have passed
Whilst you sit and play, I will confirm the Wirraway. All yours when you run outta wind.
Recently seen at Temora...






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I think 24 hours have passed so thankyou!

Quite WHY the Wirraway popped into my mind I can't tell you . Too much reading WW2 aviation I suspect.

Anyway - try this


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