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Old 12th Jul 2010, 14:46
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Do a search for Joe Wagner Osprey model aircraft...
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You mean the model aircraft I guess?
Yes, but it does dunnit!

Sharpen up RR.
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Ah yes but this one has a european feel to it. Despite the french looking engine I'd drawn to the idea of it being dutch!
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I think I'll stick to France...an early homebuild?
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That's what I think and that's where I am at the moment.
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I'm just waiting for the TC coffee break.......
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is it the Miranda????
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Typing that into Goggle brings up some interesting photos.

Now I just know that you're both going to do it.............
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is W-K with us?

Well, I'm off.........

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is W-K with us?
The odd clue would help things along.

WK 'phone home.
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Old 12th Jul 2010, 16:27
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Evening all,

Originally Posted by RR
I'm just waiting for the TC coffee break.......
I did look but drew a blank!! I concluded that the MDG LD.261 "Midgy Club" as in Flight for July 1949 shows a lot of similarities (apart from the equi-span wings and long snout with Continental engine).

AviaFrance says there was an earlier MDG LD.26 "Midgy Club" that had a Mathis G4F a 75 hp engine which may have been shorter, but I think that was a horizontally-opposed twin. However, the Flight article mentions that it would be available as an airframe without engine, but I can't find any pictures of it, or the LD.45 displayed at Paris in '46, so who knows?
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Old 12th Jul 2010, 16:51
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I have a photo of the LD45, and it sure looks correct, albeit with a different engine. Anyone interested?
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I'm interested ! It did sound like a possible, but as I said above, I could't find a piccie.
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Standby mate....
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Old 12th Jul 2010, 17:01
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Here you go:

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Old 12th Jul 2010, 17:03
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Unfortunately I had to go out....I'm sure it is the LD45 (or a variant), but there are numerous differences between the picture of the LD45 on the net and that in the silhouette. I think we have to wait to hear from WK.
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Old 12th Jul 2010, 17:06
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I think we have to wait to hear from WK.
Yep, but when will that be I wonder. We might have to keep ourselves amused with other things for a while. I'll get on to it.
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Thanks LM,

Yes, that does look pretty close, it's the "pleasant little single seat" version mentioned in the article I found showing the later Midgy (a picture of which on AviaFrance showed that it sprouted endplates on its tailplane horizontals. It seems like it was very much, a "work in progress"

midgy-club | lightweights cabin | french lightweights | 1949 | 1312 | Flight Archive biplane
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Old 12th Jul 2010, 17:11
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Incidentally doesn't the LD261 Midgy Club look even more like the Osprey model aircraft! One wonders if it was perhaps the basis for it.

Strange that Aviafrance, which I always come to rely on as a good source of French types, makes no mention of the LD46 Midgy Club, and yet a less comprehensive website actually has a photo of it!
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Hi all,
Has been a lot of fun following the conversation on the small biplane and to see that after reductios and deductions the right answer came up. It is French, a single-seater and several different engines were used and the LD-261 (SincoTC) was a slightly larger development.
LD-45 (LM) stands for Louis Desalle 1945 (designer initials and year) and type was developed for a company named MDG (Société Matérial Denis-Gruson)
3 examples were built. No.1 with 40hp Train 4T and then 40hp Mathis G-2F, no.2 with Mathis and no.3 with 75hp Praga. No.1 and 2 had mixed wood/fabric construction, no.3 was metal. The LD-26 was a larger 2-seat variant with wooden wing, metal fuselage and received a 60hp Praga D engine. It was later brought up to LD-261 with 65hp Continental A65. In addition 3 examples were built as LD-261, so pop was 3 x LD-45, 1 x LD-267 and 3x LDF-261.

I think LM came up with LD-45, so may I invite you , Sir (and thank you for posting!)
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