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Old 7th Nov 2009, 17:01
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Hi Bradenav,

Will you be posting as we like to keep the thread moving..... Thanks,

RR

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I did :already at 16,50 GMT
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Old 8th Nov 2009, 00:28
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The Carden-Baynes Bee?

Edit: On second thoughts, nope.
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Sorry ,it's not it .
It's an European ,continental, design.
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I have a picture of it is an Air PIctorial somewhere! Is it a Klemm or something like that? RR
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I did :already at 16,50 GMT
Yes, we seem to have had timing issues with posts. Skytrain10 had the same last week..... Sorry...... RR
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Mis-timed posts

Skytrain10:

A little confused as when I submitted my message at 1841 there were no other responses, and yet I now look and find that Bradenav's 2 responses are timed before mine.
The same has happened to me, yesterday.

[/QUOTE]Hi Bradenav,

Will you be posting as we like to keep the thread moving..... Thanks,

RR [/QUOTE]

But he had posted at 1650 but at 1801, even after refreshing, it didn't show!!!! Something screwy is happening!

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Old 8th Nov 2009, 11:15
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Not a Klemm at all ,but you are right in one way :It's a german speaking aircraft ,built in the eighties .
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but something in my head says Austrian!
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Could be.
I've wasted all morning looking at Rhein Flugzeugbau und Rhein-West Flug without much luck.
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It's German ,but nothing to do with Rhein etc...
It can be seen in a very well known aviation museum in Germany .
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I have a vague recollection of seeing a photo of it in Air Pictorial as part of a Hannover show report. Would I be right?
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I think,almost sure ,it never was at Hannover

The museum where it is ,is the "Deutsche Museum" ,München.

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I found a picture of it at the Deutsches Museum in Munich centre but with no name!!!!!!! Ahh..........! RR
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The DOWA 81

This homebuilt aircraft was designed and built to enable a family of five to escape from East to West Germany in 1981, but has never flown. The family were arrested the day before their planned escape. They were charged with 'Preparing an illegal border crossing in a heavy case', convicted and imprisoned for one year. They were then deported to the Federal Republic of Germany.
To keep construction a secret, the builder used only non aviation-grade materials and generally available components. Power was provided by two East German MZ motorcycle engines.
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Congrats both of you!
That was a good one!

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The third "OSTALGIA" !!

Congratulation Ridge Runner :
it is the WAGNER DOWA 81 built in the GDR
It was designed and built by Gerhard F. Wagner in Dresden for himself ,wife and three children (6,16,17 ) for flying to the west .
Arrested by the STASI just before the flight.
The aircraft was from 1981 to 1990 at the STASI .
Now in Deutsche Museum



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New challenge

Thanks bradenav, it was a good one and frustrating!!!!

Here is the next. It might go quickly!!!!



Good luck!

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G'day mate! The Sukhoi Su-12 (RK) with ASh-62 engines?
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yea, yea, yea....... well done mate!!!!! You have control..... RR

(actually not an SU-12, which was a very different machine... This is the RK)
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