Delta15

daddy Flm..

Silly question time. whats is this mythical monster called TVOC cause to the best of my knowledge and last time I looked it was a dormant company not even trading, so how can it pay a fabulous salary to it's equally mythical CEO????

Can't even get that right can you son??

Delta15

#1593 (permalink) daddy flm

Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: peterborough
Age: 46
Posts: 27


very intresting indeed
Well now guy's we all know tvoc management did not waste any time in letting joe public know whos court the blame was for a no show at the weekend.

Was vicky ready for certification it appears not so im informed but thats a sortable problem.

What i find funny is tvoc website post blaming all but themselves seems to of gone,lost, or deleted erm wonder why maybe a phone call from someone?

FOR ALL WHO WERE READY TO SLAG OFF AND ACCUSE THE GUYS AT MA

THIS IS FOR YOU


Marshall Aerospace and the Vulcan

The Vulcan Operating Company is enormously grateful to Marshall Aerospace for the technical expertise which it continues to provide and which enabled the aeroplane to return to flight. The Company has also committed a very significant amount to the funding of the project, and is committed to supporting the Vulcan.

The Vulcan is a highly complex aeroplane and as might be expected for an aeroplane of its age, technical defects have arisen and will continue to occur, and until they are rectified, it is simply not possible to fly the aeroplane on safety grounds.

Unfortunately on this occasion the necessary technical assistance from Marshall Aerospace was simply not available until 1 September.

We are 100% behind the VOC to support the Vulcan and were very disappointed that it was not available for Bournemouth.

Everyone here is looking forward to seeing the aeroplane perform at Duxford on 6/7 September.

NOTE THE WORDS

Expertise, Enormously grateful, Significant contribution, Funding 100%

This was a large chunk of humble pie for anyone to eat hope they get indegestion

Excert from MA aerospace website bet it does not appear on tvoc pages

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Looks and sounds like something a downed Tornado crew would have said in the first Gulf War??

T-21

Vulcans operated in the annual "Giant Voice" USAF bombing competition. They were at a disadvantage in "Red Flag" training exercises,when the white undersurfaces exposed during tight turns revealed their position to fighter aircraft. In Sept 1979 the first Vulcan XM657 was resprayed in the new overall camouflage scheme. The undersides were a mirror image of the topsides.
The scheme was called "tactical low visibility".

Blacksheep

After looking out of the window on Sunday morning, neither did I

I'd still like to see it display as a Nuclear Bomber though. Whatever it ended up doing, that's what it really was.

PPRuNe Pop

Time to rein in the knockers, doubters and plain 'ol troublemakers. Enough is enough.

To those who fit the above please refrain from looking for a bit of gossip that will give you some perverse pleasure in swiping at the guys who work so hard on XH558 and who got it to where it is now. It is uncalled for and all water under the bridge.

Like BEag's, Pontious and others who have flown the Vulcan, they constantly remind everyone that it is a very complex piece of kit to get flying, and with the special expertise of Marshall's constantly on call, was a gargantuan task. One that was entitled to falter and finish as a static display. But it didn't. That is what you should recognise and accept.

Enjoy XH558. You will NEVER see the likes of it again. Be thankful and offer praise to the guys who have spilled their guts for it to be seen in the air and who work their balls off day and night week in and week out.

If it goes tech, that is the way of things and though many will be disappointed just give a thought to the pilots, ground crews, management, helpers and especially the engineers, about how they feel when she is unable to fly. And........it must be gut wrenching to miss out on the income for starters!

So, anymore unwarranted slagging, smart arseing or rudeness will see your post deleted and you being banned from the thread.

Now please get back to living with the reality of the beautiful beast and enjoy what you can when its available.

Btw, I saw 558 at F'boro, up close and in the air, it was a truly marvellous and although I suspect that DT would love to do his displays in the way he used to, there are imposed restrictions but he still does it proud.

PPP

Beamish Boy

I've just seen XH558 fly over Greenham Common (enroute to Jersey?), Someone's revisiting old haunts.

BB

godsell

xh558 flew low over southampton airport at 15.25 en-route to jersey.

Windy Militant

Was XH558 over Faringdon this afternoon around 17:30 ish?
Looked as if she was headed for Alberts Nest.

wulf190a

Saw the Vulcan this afternoon, flying over Cricklade Wilts. Looked fantastic! anyone know where it was going??



wulf

BEagle

Jersey.







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thorpey

A big well done to all involved in getting XH558 airworthy, there won`t be anybody knocking the team here in Jersey. Obviously a long time since we`ve seen a Vulcan displayed and she went down a treat, absolutely fantastic. Thank you.

Dop

BBC: The last flying Vulcan Bomber could be making one of its final appearances at Leuchars Airshow at the weekend unless £1.6m can be raised, restorers warn.
Dr Robert Pleming, Vulcan To The Sky Trust chief executive, said after five years and a £7.5m restoration project the cash was needed to run it annually.
The Cold War aircraft, which makes an "earth-shaking roar" on take off, has just been brought back to life.
But now it could be destined for the hangar once again without a sponsor.
The news comes after a major sponsor, which was to invest to keep the aircraft flying, was lost.
Dr Pleming said: "It looks as if the door may now be closing on the future of the Vulcan in flight.
"I think that anyone wishing to see a Vulcan in flight should do so as soon as possible."

Oh bugger.

Thoughtful_Flyer

In all honesty I never thought they would get this far and I have nothing but admiration for what has been achieved. Without a major benefactor this project has never had a long term future. Maybe, just maybe, one will still be found. I certainly hope so. There are plenty of people in this world to whom £5M £10M £20M is nothing. Maybe one will feel this is their baby? However the chances are getting less. I've spent all my life working in the museum field. Generally it is much easier to raise money to acquire something new or build an extension than to keep something running.

One of the problems with the Vulcan project was that it was not (nor could it be) for ever. Say Mr Mega Rich had written out a cheque for £10M at the start. With careful management that would have got her in the air with sufficient funds to operate for X years. But would it? Once there is a large sum in the bank people tend to look at projects differently. Costs would have risen and fewer people would have worked for nothing. So, perhaps it would have needed £15M, maybe £20M. But what does Mr Rich get for his money? A static exhibit in a museum 15 years later than it would otherwise have happened.

Also, at the moment XH558 draws the crowds. It is “new” on the airshow scene. Realistically, even if the running costs are found, it will not be quite such a draw in 5 years time. Maybe somebody will have found a way to get, say, a Lightning authorized to fly in the UK by then. That will be the new kid on the block and XH558 will be old hat. I suspect this is the view that would be taken by some potential donors. The project does not leave a legacy for their money.

Groundloop

Can't agree with that comment. When the Vulcan was still in service and was very common on the airshow circuit it was never considered uninteresting and "old hat". It was always stunning. The Sea Vixen has been back on the display circuit for a few years and still impresses most people at shows. If the display is good and impressive it will always work!

ropetow

Does anyone know the flight plan and rough timings of the Vulcan flying to Leuchars ?

Would it be possible to see it from somewhere in the Central Belt of Scotland ?

Thanks

JEM60

According to another site yesterday, it was due to arrive at Leuchars at 11.30 today. That's all I have I'm afraid.

wulf190a

Thanks BEagle, it appears it had come out of Brize

BEagle

It had indeed come thence. Due to return thither after displaying at Leuchars this weekend.

Mungo Man

Did it manage to appear at Leuchars anyone know?

mustpost

I'm not sure because I had to leave early. They were eventually trying for a 4 o'clock takeoff, but the overcast was still severe (and nowhere else in Fife!)
V limited activity..will update when I check