Vulcan XH 558 Threads (merged)
Hopefully not a repeat of last week with the weather?
'Q) EGTT/QWELW/IV/BO/W/000/030/5229N00108W003
FROM: 08/06/06 10:00 TO: 08/06/06 17:00
E) VULCAN ACFT FLIGHT TESTING. PILOTS ARE REQUESTED TO AVOID FLYING WI 3NM RAD 5229N 00108W (BRUNTINGTHORPE AD, NEAR LUTTERWORTH, LEICS).
AUS 08-06-0462/1795/AS2.LOWER: SFC
UPPER: 3000FT AMSL'
See also post 728 on the following
http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/sho...=80207&page=25
Cheers
TJ
'Q) EGTT/QWELW/IV/BO/W/000/030/5229N00108W003
FROM: 08/06/06 10:00 TO: 08/06/06 17:00
E) VULCAN ACFT FLIGHT TESTING. PILOTS ARE REQUESTED TO AVOID FLYING WI 3NM RAD 5229N 00108W (BRUNTINGTHORPE AD, NEAR LUTTERWORTH, LEICS).
AUS 08-06-0462/1795/AS2.LOWER: SFC
UPPER: 3000FT AMSL'
See also post 728 on the following
http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/sho...=80207&page=25
Cheers
TJ
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I've changed a Vulcan undercarriage in an 8 hour shift (with time to spare) and it's not that difficult to do with the right tools and GSE.
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....... it always worked for me.
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Not again, last fridays flight cancelled,told aircraft was flight ready, just wasted two days of perfect weather and the weather next week looks iffy.
This thing is never going to make any airshows if it can only fly on clear sunny days.We all know we dont get many of these.
I hope they are not using poor weather for an excuse because they have ran out of money again!!.
Check the bbc news link http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/l...re/7433094.stm
It dont sound good
This thing is never going to make any airshows if it can only fly on clear sunny days.We all know we dont get many of these.
I hope they are not using poor weather for an excuse because they have ran out of money again!!.
Check the bbc news link http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/l...re/7433094.stm
It dont sound good
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Not again, last fridays flight cancelled,told aircraft was flight ready, just wasted two days of perfect weather and the weather next week looks iffy.
This thing is never going to make any airshows if it can only fly on clear sunny days.We all know we dont get many of these.
I hope they are not using poor weather for an excuse because they have ran out of money again!!.
Last weeks flight was indeed cancelled because of weather as is todays, it is not a case of just move everything forward a day or two, it is down to the logistics of getting all the essential personal together - remember some work on other projects so not available at the drop of a hat, you have to co-ordinate emergency services, & the runway needs to be available - the first choice for flight was Wednesday but dispite checking last week that the runway was available TVOC were told on Tuesday it wasn't
you may find it hard to believe but not everything that doesn't go according to plan is tvoc's fault
This thing is never going to make any airshows if it can only fly on clear sunny days.We all know we dont get many of these.
I hope they are not using poor weather for an excuse because they have ran out of money again!!.
Last weeks flight was indeed cancelled because of weather as is todays, it is not a case of just move everything forward a day or two, it is down to the logistics of getting all the essential personal together - remember some work on other projects so not available at the drop of a hat, you have to co-ordinate emergency services, & the runway needs to be available - the first choice for flight was Wednesday but dispite checking last week that the runway was available TVOC were told on Tuesday it wasn't
you may find it hard to believe but not everything that doesn't go according to plan is tvoc's fault
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What you say might well be correct, but unfortunately there is this stigma attached to TVOC, and they continue to blame everyone else and everything else whenever things go wrong with the project. It's NEVER EVER their fault, is it??
Last Saturday was a classic example. I watched the good, red-headed lady from the group at Cosford shortly after her trailer was damaged. She was like a mad person, completely out of control!! She was shouting on the phone to a great long list of people about what had happened, loud enough for all to hear. (I for one found it all quite amusing, as did the guys puttting up the Red Arrows stall and the BBMF boys, who were next to her, as well as some others who had heard the shouting)
I'm afraid it's just typical TVOC, 'don't try and sort the problem out or fix it, get on the phone as soon as possible and shout and yell at as many people you can find to answer their phone'
The women is a joke frankly, and does little (infact she does absolutely nothing) to promote the project at all. Indeed, she is a poor and unworthy ambassadour for the team. Lose her!
What you say might well be correct, but unfortunately there is this stigma attached to TVOC, and they continue to blame everyone else and everything else whenever things go wrong with the project. It's NEVER EVER their fault, is it??
Last Saturday was a classic example. I watched the good, red-headed lady from the group at Cosford shortly after her trailer was damaged. She was like a mad person, completely out of control!! She was shouting on the phone to a great long list of people about what had happened, loud enough for all to hear. (I for one found it all quite amusing, as did the guys puttting up the Red Arrows stall and the BBMF boys, who were next to her, as well as some others who had heard the shouting)
I'm afraid it's just typical TVOC, 'don't try and sort the problem out or fix it, get on the phone as soon as possible and shout and yell at as many people you can find to answer their phone'
The women is a joke frankly, and does little (infact she does absolutely nothing) to promote the project at all. Indeed, she is a poor and unworthy ambassadour for the team. Lose her!
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the first choice for flight was Wednesday but dispite checking last week that the runway was available TVOC were told on Tuesday it wasn't
That is one of the reasons this project is in a mess.
If this project is going to survive it has to leave bruntingthorpe and move to a active runway that can be used at short notice.
That is one of the reasons this project is in a mess.
If this project is going to survive it has to leave bruntingthorpe and move to a active runway that can be used at short notice.
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Swinging monkey,
Great post mate, you have made me laugh.
You have also hit the nail bang on the head, she will have a face like thunder when she reads this, watch out she will be after you :0
Great post mate, you have made me laugh.
You have also hit the nail bang on the head, she will have a face like thunder when she reads this, watch out she will be after you :0
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I think VOC would love to move, but are unable to do at the moment. They have a contract signed with the airfield owners for the lease of the hangar. When it's up for renewal - I'm sure, 558 will be away.
Current flavour of airfield is Humberside (it's hush hush! but ask anyone in Humberside and they will tell you the Vulcan is coming).
Approach is over the sea and the airport away from popluation. This move does not excite me, but thats me just being me. If it helps 558, I have to wake and smell the coffee and accept it will be based at Humberside.
Do you need Passports?, I have never travelled that far up?
Current flavour of airfield is Humberside (it's hush hush! but ask anyone in Humberside and they will tell you the Vulcan is coming).
Approach is over the sea and the airport away from popluation. This move does not excite me, but thats me just being me. If it helps 558, I have to wake and smell the coffee and accept it will be based at Humberside.
Do you need Passports?, I have never travelled that far up?
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Rumour Control tells me that the Beast will fly through Benson's MATZ at around lunchtime en-route for Biggin. Anyone have more accurate timings?
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Maybe at the 2009 Biggin Air Show, but not this weekends fun and frolics at Biggin.
558's not off test until Monday afternoon - hopefully. Then we wait for the permit and DA. Then....game on!
558's not off test until Monday afternoon - hopefully. Then we wait for the permit and DA. Then....game on!
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It is a shame she couldn't be re-based at Finningley. Now that would be appropriate.
I suspect that all the hangers have been leased out, which would obviously be a problem, but it is still a nice idea.
I suspect that all the hangers have been leased out, which would obviously be a problem, but it is still a nice idea.
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Well at last someone with a bit of sense in the past i have had my say on alot of things regarding tvoc all the truth but it seems to of upset a few people thats why i have not posted or a while.
As it stands the ma tech will be at bruntingthorpe on monday to oversee the release for the final airtest we hope after that some flights for the CAA to gain the DA
Finningley now theres an idea as tvoc seem to have trouble in gaining the maintenance approvall for some people at the moment and the prospect that Marshall Aerospace will be involved for the forseeable future the fact that there is hangar space available the runway is active and MA have a training facillity in partnership with people there it seems a good idea this could open up a training scheme for existing engineers to help them gain certifying status
I for one would be glad to move back to Doncaster and work on the old girl under the marshall structure with my approvall covering the airframe trade (but i know this wont happen)
Plus some of the engineers live in lincoln it's a 40 min trip up the road the engine trade lack of expierience could be coverd by an ex engine SGT who lives 25 mins away (with training) so yes lets go for it i say but then again they did not listen to me when i was there so why now
look forward to the debate
On another note if the DA is only for the pilot what if mr t is unavailable due to sickness or other commitments surely mr pollitt and mr withers will need to be cleard for display as well will this need more flights at a later date?
dave
As it stands the ma tech will be at bruntingthorpe on monday to oversee the release for the final airtest we hope after that some flights for the CAA to gain the DA
Finningley now theres an idea as tvoc seem to have trouble in gaining the maintenance approvall for some people at the moment and the prospect that Marshall Aerospace will be involved for the forseeable future the fact that there is hangar space available the runway is active and MA have a training facillity in partnership with people there it seems a good idea this could open up a training scheme for existing engineers to help them gain certifying status
I for one would be glad to move back to Doncaster and work on the old girl under the marshall structure with my approvall covering the airframe trade (but i know this wont happen)
Plus some of the engineers live in lincoln it's a 40 min trip up the road the engine trade lack of expierience could be coverd by an ex engine SGT who lives 25 mins away (with training) so yes lets go for it i say but then again they did not listen to me when i was there so why now
look forward to the debate
On another note if the DA is only for the pilot what if mr t is unavailable due to sickness or other commitments surely mr pollitt and mr withers will need to be cleard for display as well will this need more flights at a later date?
dave