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Old 30th May 2008, 14:32
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In The hangar........................and now with wheel covers on.

Chappie

I dont think anyone had ever said it was at Marshalls in Cambridge,
and a quick look at the TVOC webcams would have shown that

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Old 30th May 2008, 14:55
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"DA flight postponed due to adverse weather
Friday, May 30, 2008 - TA

Due to poor visibilty and slow clearing cloud cover today's DA flight was not possible.

The aircraft is fully servicable and ready to go and a replacement flight will now be arranged in the very near future.

Rusty Drewett, Commercial Manager, VTST "
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Old 30th May 2008, 15:46
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Hi folks,
Just too clear a few things up as a lot of stuff been posted on numerous forums. Yes the test flight was cancelled due too the weather and there where a couple of snags this morning that have now been rectified one with the number 2 tank that was reading incorrectly and the other with some bolts in the undercarrige which were done under an SI but unfortunately put back in slightly bent (you cant get better than a kwik fit fitter lol).
There is no way that 558 would of been allowed too perform at Cosford on Sunday even if she had completed the TEST FLIGHT snag free and then done a couple of DA flights for Mr CAA.
As for Waddington I know some people seem too think the CAA permit too fly will take a week too sort out but it will take MA about that long if not longer too get the paperwork too the CAA and then at least 3 weeks for CAA to give permit too display. And she still needs her (maybe the last) test flight done yet which I believe they are looking at next week but with our wonderful summer living up too expectations dont count on it.
Hope thats cleared up a few rumours.
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Old 30th May 2008, 22:01
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Kwik fit fitter?? Oh glass houses and stones come to mind my boy! Glass houses and stones!!
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Old 31st May 2008, 08:08
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Apart from QRA, I never heard of a Vulcan 'Crew-In' that didn't involve a snag or two. As for returning from a flight without any defects - come on guys, get real! This is a Vulcan we're talking about...
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Old 31st May 2008, 09:06
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BS,

We often had flights were there were no post-flight snags - like in Tehran, Nairobi, Ohakia, El Adem, Ankara, Gardemoen

Mind you we often seemed to need engine changes in Offut, don't know why.

Folklore had it that Eng Wg always put a bag o'nails up for the Rangers so that the crew and one crew chief could sort it out, do the work of 30 groundcrew, and get the chinagraph line ever upwards at no cost to Eng Wg, apart from the crew chief.

Sometimes the plan went tits up. I still remember one rather bemused sgt flown out to Offut to assist with an engine change - mere sgts never got that opportunity normally. Wonderful name for a sooty - Hammer
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Old 31st May 2008, 09:50
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There were significant differences between 'Goose snags' and 'Offutt snags' when I was in the V-force!

We would carry virtually anything to escape from Goose; however, we were somewhat more choosy when safely ensconced at Offutt.

It was a mere coincidence that the AEO's sniffle became a heavy cold the day after we landed at Offutt on one occasion. Really it was!

CHING!!
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Old 31st May 2008, 12:12
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what if any are the chances of 558 displaying at Biggin next weekend not good by the looks of things
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Old 31st May 2008, 15:10
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^^ Thanks, what a shame, maybe once the CAA give her the nod, she wil l perform some else in the south east.... Farnborough maybe
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Old 31st May 2008, 20:25
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I noted somewhere that the likely three displays this year (assuming no other hitches) are Farnborough, Fairford (RIAT) and Waddington.

Is it likely that any of these displays will involve a take-off?* I would love to hear the howl again!

If, for example, she was to perform at RIAT over both days, would more fuel be saved by parking-up overnight, and doing a take-off, display on the sunday, then RTB?




* Obviously there will be a take-off from the home base, so no witty comments thanks!
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Old 1st Jun 2008, 11:46
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I would think that the Vulcan would be based at the big shows and stay overnight.

Part of the display is the take-off and landing, so I doubt the big three would want a Vulcan to fly-in, display and then fly-out again.

Also the PR opportunities at the shows would be huge, so having the aircraft there on static display would help promote it to a wider audience.
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Old 1st Jun 2008, 20:03
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He means that the Vulcan was officially cancelled on the 23rd of May, not that it was displaying on that date.
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Old 1st Jun 2008, 20:25
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Angel Not Long Now?

From what I understand she is due down in Jersey for there Air Display in September.
She has a strong connection with the Island from what I understan,d so this could be one of only a few places to see not only the take off, the display and the landing back on.
Jersey was one of the last places she displayed years ago before her long rest and restoration to get back in the air.
We all await the day when the Permit is handed over then the Display Authorisation being given.
All the best to the team when this happens what a party to look forward to with the quest of honour one VULCAN XH558.
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Old 1st Jun 2008, 20:35
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Not 100% sure on this one but was under the impression that 558 was not allowed to fly overseas. But I stand too be corrected.
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Old 1st Jun 2008, 22:03
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Jersey I am led to believe will be OK.
Take off and landing are based on the amount of retractions left on one of the main U/C units. It will have to be changed out around August time, as long as there are not many more extra flights needed.
There is a window between air shows in August when this change out can be done and the team are geared up to do it.
Just to set some expectations: The display will be similar to the RAF one, as the display pattern was included in the lottery grant application. However I do expect it to be tame compared to last couple of RAF seasons in the 90's.
I hope to be proved wrong!
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Old 2nd Jun 2008, 00:42
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Please clarify Vulcan903.

Undercarriage is up on cycles and will probably require replacement in August ?

So you just bolt another on ?

Where has that come from ? What dictates that the main gear requires replacement ?

What exactly is the situation wrt spares ?

Will the u/s undercarriage be serviced and then replaced ?

Some folks who donate to the trust like to know these things !
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Old 2nd Jun 2008, 05:35
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Jersey is a tadge short at 5100 feet. Normal short minima was 6000 feet. I suppose at her lighter weight it would be OK but would certainly need to stream which, in turn, would impose cross-wind limits, 20k IIRC.
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Old 2nd Jun 2008, 08:40
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Yes sure. You know if you are passing Bruntingthorpe on a Sunday you can go in and see 558, and ask as many questions as you like - I did!

They have a lovely refurbished main U/C leg coming back from the OEM, and yes, you jack the a/c up and swap it over. Conduct some tests and it's business as usual. I hope we have a viewer who could detail a bit more a leg replacment? Smiler...... please?

Everything on this aircraft like all the others have a end of life date, and this work along with engine drops will all be scheduled in. What dictates, is in the operating manual which I do not see.

Spares are good generally and anything on the aircraft can be replaced with a refurbished/boxed brand new spare. From memory the Trust has options on using internal parts from other museum Vulcan's but it's a like for like swap otherwise the Museum & Galleries Commission frown on it and may not award future grants to museum Vulcan's unless they are complete as de commissioned Vulcan's.

Future servicing etc will be reported in the Club's magazine - in my opinion just don't donate, get something back for your hard earned cash. Join the supporters club and get the newsletters/magazines etc.
Smiler provides a detailed engineering report monthly for the entire world to read. I'm sure we will get an excellent report on the leg change.
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Old 2nd Jun 2008, 10:41
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There is a window between air shows in August when this change out can be done and the team are geared up to do it.

I've changed a Vulcan undercarriage in an 8 hour shift (with time to spare) and it's not that difficult to do with the right tools and GSE.
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Old 3rd Jun 2008, 08:44
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I understand the Vulcan is booked for the Battle of Britain Airshow at Leuchars 13 Sep 08. Plan is to park her on the intersection of the short runway and northern taxiway (on the new piano keys). Have also heard that Leuchars Airshow Office are trying to get the Reds and the Vulcan to do a formation flypast.

Fugazi1000 - I am fairly certain that the Airshow pay for the fuel.
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