Well it won't be covid holding aviation back, ACCC wants QF to play nice to let a competitor be given a fair go what a load of BS. Guess they won't acknowledge QF group has taken a massive financial hit and are in need of having to get revenue. At the end of the administration VA will have a company with billions at hand, should be open slather.

ACCC told to watch airlines to give Virgin Australia a chance

https://cdn.newsapi.com.au/image/v1/...39d2?width=650The ACCC has been directed to monitor competition among domestic airlines over the next three years.

• Robyn Ironside

  
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The federal government has ordered the competition watchdog to monitor domestic flights in Australia for the next three years in an effort to give a renewed Virgin Australia the best chance of succeeding.

A statement form Treasurer Josh Frydenberg said Australia’s national interest was best served through having a sustainable, competitive aviation sector.

He said the direction would require the Australian Competition and Consumer Commission to monitor prices, costs and profits in the domestic air passenger sector.

“A key matter covered will be the level of capacity the airlines are putting on each route and whether this is occurring in a way that may damage competition,” Mr Frydenberg said.

“The ACCC will release reports at least quarterly.”

ACCC Chairman Rod Sims welcomed the direction from government and the “opportunity to ensure competition in the domestic travel market at this time”.

He said the commission would be looking out for any early signs of damage to competition in the domestic airline industry which could harm the long-term interests of consumers.

“This information can then be quickly acted on by the ACCC and/or provided to the government,” said Mr Sims.

Mr Frydenberg indicated the move was a further example of the government’s support for the aviation industry as it navigated the coronavirus pandemic.

“This includes continuing to work constructively with the administrator in relation to the Virgin administration and supporting a market-based solution,” he said.

I wouldn’t stress over that, somehow what has been happening for the last decade is new news?
Anyway, If Qantas are happy chucking out $19 fares to everyone and everywhere they can’t be too hard up for cash. Although try finding one!

Seeing as you’ve openly stated you’re happy for qantas to solely be given financial assistance even if virgin is denied, I’m not surprised you dont like this. Why cease being a ******** now?

Hang together or hang separately. Your managers must be just loving this. Divide and conquer.

I would be surprised if I have stated that, more like I would of meant VA should be denied funding for the sole use of itself but funding given to Aviation equally and in proportion to the size of the company. Why should Joe and Jane Doe be made to pay for incompetent previous management?!

My problem with this article it’s just another level of the rubbish that Australia has, Australia is large enough for QF and VA to co-exist and have strong competition but if VA can’t manage their own well stiff! Also, Bain and Cyrus both keeping the current management well we all know what the definition of insanity is, good luck!

This is just based on those who work in office buildings, but feedback I’ve heard suggests Zoom isn’t the be all and end all of business communication. A lot of employees sick of talking with their colleagues on a screen all day long, and want to be back in a physical location together. Meetings aren’t as good online as they are in person, can’t pick up the personal communications, can’t detect body language, can’t have quick off the record chats with clients etc. We hear the same suggestion that online conferencing would replace business travel all the time, including post GFC but business travel always seems to return. Even in the age of technology being physically in front of people is the best way to do business.

If anything I’d expect leisure travel to be slightly more affected as holidays are one of the first things to be cut in a recession.

In terms of liability I’m sure in time contacting COVID on a business trip will be the same as contracting the flu on a business trip in terms of corporate liability.

A friend of mine from the corporate world told me his companies new policy is that anyone who goes on an plane trip (whether it be for business or leisure) will have to work from home for 14 days post trip. Just a small example, but could be an insight into the apprehension a lot of businesses have about putting their people on flights for the short to medium term.

You are telling me what the employee is wanting and what they are sick of. I am telling you what management and accounting and risk management are thinking. For the foreseeable future, business travel will be way down and only after a risk assessment. Even self-employed who can make up their own mind will think about the risk of shutting down for 14 days.

leisure will hold up better overall. There will be a cascade phenomenon. Some people will drop out of budget holidays, but they will be replaced by the next group up who now want a budget holiday. The tier above who have downgraded To budget will themselves be displaced by previous premium leisure.
people will still spend on holidays and travel. But they will mostly spend less than previously. And the destinations available will also be less expensive. So Fiji rather than Hawaii, Hawaii rather than Europe.

No. if you get flu on a trip, your partner does not have to stop work for 14 days and your kids are not excluded from school for 14 days.

The world has changed.

Here’s comment from a chair at the chamber of Commerce and Industry published in the SMH the other day:

It looks like he, as a representative of the business community, is desperate to get business travel back up again

Of course he is. Many travel / hotel / accommodation / travel agent groups are members of this organisation. So it is only right and appropriate he represent these interests. Otherwise why would they be members.

The real question however is whether thousands of small and large businesses will buy into this.

https://australianaviation.com.au/20...-out-in-hours/

Jetstar just sold 10,000 $19 seats in 4 hours, 70,000 by early afternoon.

fair to say people are ready to travel again.

Yep. But my guess is a very large % were leisure. People are sick of not travelling and sick of holidays at home.

Managers don’t really care whether employees are sick of no business travel. In fact, no travel has been a blessing to the financial bottom line.

Just the beginning really. With the NZ bubble not far off and Japan with the Olympics next year, Singapore and Hong Kong should have things well under control by years end, I think confidence and demand will return quicker then people think.

yeah, absolutely. It’s only really a reflection of the leisure market, the jury is still out on business travel.

I really hope they are proven wrong in the future but I think slats11 is pretty close to the money with his overall predictions....

Time will tell. The business owners I deal with daily think virtual meetings are a band aid and can’t wait to send their people in face to face.

Business has and will always be done face to face - rather than on the phone / zoom etc. We’ve had other means of communicating for decades and yet business still relies on the ability to travel to a meeting.

CV won’t change that.

I don’t think anyone is suggesting business travel will disappear completely, but it could definitely become less common. Yes, the technology has been available for sometime, but it’s only been recently that many business have been forced to use it and can now evaluate its merits.

Zoom meetings have their flaws, but so to does air travel. Packing, traffic to the airport, flight delays, the time incurred by the flight itself, waiting for bags, taxi out of airport, hotels and doing it all again to get home. The time/financial costs of business travel vs a simple log on to a zoom meeting will see many businesses reevaluate their business travel needs.

Plus we’re evaluating the technology associated with Skype/zoom meetings today, who knows how much better all of that will be in 3-5 years time.

Many a business deal is consumated over lunch or in the informal times between meetings, Skype or Zoom won't replace that.

very true, however, will the quarterly follow up meetings become 6 monthly, replacing every second meeting with zoom. I’m some cases no, but in others, perhaps yes.

Nor does it really facilitate supporting the non verbal communications, such as body language and mannerisms that form a significant part of human to human communication. It can be incredibly important in business.

I think skype and zoom will have a newfound place, but certainly will only replace a minimal component of business travel.