https://www.watoday.com.au/politics/...01-p576r5.html

Its only regarding inspections of freight at the border, which during covid increased and uncovered more drugs than normal.....No need to blow it out of context.

Ya reckon? And put themselves out of work? What would they do instead, go out and get their pilot's licence?

Originally he said they wanted to track everybody inbound and keep the hard border. He was looking into keeping the G2G App as passport control. Everyone would have to apply to enter WA.

By the afternoon he had changed his mind. Or had it changed for him.

The "hard border" was only deemed legal for virus control, not at the whim of a premier who likes the idea.

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....5c0b7eb53.jpeg

Yes, I think S117 should put an end to that one.

In the meantime, Comrade Chairman is looking to extend his Emergency powers, and the Watermelons are right behind him! :suspect:

https://www.theage.com.au/national/v...02-p576zs.html

An update to my figures above.

I calculated around 82,000 vaccinations were required each day to be on target for October. See by maths above.

I just saw on the ABC that their graph showed 198,000 required per day. (It must be true as it was on tv)

I guess they are allowing for TWO shots per person, I only allowed for ONE.

This is insanity looking from afar. In the short term, right; but 9 months??

I imagine that chief health officers are counselling that Covid might be the gift that keeps on giving to neo-potentates everywhere. Already you can read worrisome advice that the pace of mutations might result in a mutant strain able to escape* the vaccines.

*(immunologist term. Means what you think it does)

The Cassandra-like cautions suggest that we may still end up back at square one dealing with this virus. So nine months worth of scope is either crazy cautious or fetchingly innocent. Someone wake me when its over.

important for Mcclown to support the local meth dealers. Nothing like boosting your homemade supply. Moron.

All the scientific commentary I've seen has stated that scientists don't believe current mutations will "escape" the vaccine.

Coronavirus: a single ‘escape mutant’ shouldn’t render a vaccine useless

First vaccine received gets your immune system to create antibodies against SARS-COV-2, which the human body doesn't have unless you've been infected. For next season, probably around the time you usually get a flu vaccine you get a Covid vaccine as well. In time both vaccines may be able to be delivered simultaneously. With mRNA technology we can develop these vaccines targeted towards the expected strains at record speed.

It's actually quite exciting to see how the revolution in medical technology will defeat this pandemic.

yes that deadly Spanish flu really dragged on compared to this one, it also came back again and again, if only modern technology was around to shave a few months off 100 years ago. We have come so far.

It’s strange, isn’t it Dr Dre.

When I talk to my family, they have a reasonable understanding of the virus, the vaccine, and the repercussions.

When I talk to my neighbours, they have a reasonable understanding of the virus, the vaccine, and the repercussions.

When I go to the shops, or the pub, or a restaurant, they have a reasonable understanding of the virus, the vaccine, and the repercussions.

When I go to work, and talk to my fellow pilots, they have a reasonable understanding of the virus, the vaccine, and the repercussions.

But when I look at PPRuNe, all I see is crap like this:

Haha, if you truly believe this pandemic has been controlled by governments and modern medical science that’s a matter for you. Dan Andrew’s thanks you for your vote.

And in certain sections of the media.

Howard Springs.
 

Seems Howard Springs is the solution. 2000 people a fortnight. How is QF going to have enough planes and crews to do it??

The Alliance jungle jet shuttle 😜

2000 people a fortnight is good news, so does it mean it ramps up to a rolling 2000 people in the facility? 172 in at a time on the 787. Great news for the domestic airlines as most also need a domestic flight on release.

International travel ain’t gunna open up until no quarantine on arrival, can’t see it happening this year.

To the original topic... ALL DOMESTIC BORDERS SHOULD BE OPEN NOW AND STAY OPEN.

That seems to be a reasonable assessment.

New Zealand is an obvious starting point, almost there now.

Bali bubble? Fiji bubble?

I think Bali will be one of the last places on earth that Oz open up to.

Why? The Island can easily be controlled, in fact the local authority there is talking about a bubble around the resort area of the island.

I would think the US, India and Brazil are probably more risk.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

Surely one criteria for international destinations to open as "bubbles" is direct flights, no transit. So the Perth to London flight would be great except the UK is awash with Covd19.

Sorry. I spilt my rum and coke.

Awash? The numbers are well down. A million tests done on a day last week and around 0.5-1% of tests coming back positive. Some way to go, but by late spring we will be back in a much better place.

Danny, that is still “awash” by Aus standards...

I love that thinking and it makes perfect sense. It is however still Indonesia with the inherent problems attached. It would be fantastic if places like this could find a way.

Alas until Straya can get its own ****e together and keep all interstate borders open, ZERO CHANCE. Oooohhhh 3 cases in Kuta, righto all Aussies that were in Kuta you now have XYZ requirements on top of ABCDEFGH requirements that you already had prior to leaving.......... Just like being on a flight to Darwin from Melbourne when mid-flight it was decided you left a hot spot.

I just can't see international travel until there is no requirement for quarantine on return. For holiday makers until that time it is a holiday plus 14 days and $2500+.

Open all domestic borders, keep them open with confidence and pump the hell out of domestic tourism and keep fingers crossed for New Zealand for winter, otherwise its the Southern Alps for the snow.

UK: 4700 new cases this week, 65 deaths this week. Total deaths 125,000
Australia: 100 cases, 0 deaths this week. Total deaths 909.

Population UK: 66.6 million
Population Australia: 25.4 million

66.6/25.4 = 2.6

Yes, I would call that awash despite the "numbers are well down".

The UK is well and truly trending in the right direction though.

It’s time to look forward and find a way out, and cut out this sort of alarmist language like “awash”. The media have cultivated this type of fear throughout this pandemic unfortunately.

I agree with you. In the context of my comment about travel bubbles, they are awash compared to many, many other states.

The last surveillance data last week came back roughly to 1 in 250 having the virus. Meaning that 249 in 250 do not have it. Trending in the right direction for sure but not there yet.

But we have a vaccine in the arms of a third of the population which has high efficacy after one shot of almost eliminating severe disease and significantly reduces transmission.

No one is doing the level of testing of the UK. Nor anywhere near the amount of genomic sequencing. Testing has actually reduced in the USA or never been in the same league in many western states.

With all the coverage of Harry and Meghan, I thought covid was over.

Agree. Who would have thought ‘B grade American actress marries all round good guy with castle and hates MIL’ would take up the first 10 mins of the news last night....
I know, the right thread is over on JB.......

why is the US still so inept with dealing with this? Totally dysfunctional public health system? Complete lack of personal discipline due to whatever Amendment they want to quote?? Or just their utter insularity in all things global??

Quarantine for international arrivals.

A friend of a friend of a friend (it is a rumour network) heard that DFAT are working on quarantine possibly being required for a further 18 months to 2 years.

Hopefully not (& needs to be verified) but something to keep in mind

It is clearly a very popular policy. Why not keep it going forever? Keeps out all ailments and everyone in Oz can spend their hard earned in Oz. What's not to like?!

I think most would assume the current level of quarantine to the last quarter of this year. After that there may be loosening of restrictions in a phased return to a pre Covid norm, it may involve travel bubbles, it may involve home quarantine, it may involve quarantine only from certain countries with high infection rates. Whatever will happen will probably happen in gradual phases. DFAT also may want to keep the quarantine structure on standby in case there’s a significant outbreak somewhere in the next two years.

So yeah, I’d say DFAT having at least a quarantine framework as a backup for up to two years is something they’d consider. Doesn’t necessarily mean it will be two more years of the international border being closed exactly as it is today.

I hope you’re being sarcastic...
Sorry if I’m a bit thick at the moment.
Some of us actually had international careers ended by this virus. (Not just flying). Why would you wish that for ever?

I think the NSW premier is spot on with what she says here. That is how I feel anyway.

https://www.skynews.com.au/details/_6238116721001

Of course I’m not. Australian money for Australian people only. Tourist attractions, sporting events, jobs and universities should only be for the locals. Of course we can let in rich people, movie, sports and pop stars - they actually contribute unlike the little people.

It’s the year 2035 and WA has just entered its 24th lockdown having kept cases down to just 46 since the pandemic started. The locals are lauding it up, but the Goose is confident that the big 25 foot high wall that is along the domestic border will be able to come down eventually as cases globally completely diminish. Qantas have dumped all of their A380s as the route from Brisbane to Cairns struggled to make any money for them.

I believe this is a very interesting time and an amazing opportunity for Australia to concentrate purely on its own people to provide the business/ tourism etc. I am actually hoping that Australia becomes less reliant on international people and more reliant on its own people. I'm glad there's a drain in certain professions and industries....let's fill it with Aussies. I'm glad there's a shortfall in tourism...let's promote Aussies to fill the void...etc etc. This is a self-sufficient country so let's take advantage of it