sounds like we’re on a similar page!

I’m happy for state borders to be opened, perhaps with restrictions on those from hotspots (ala NT & NSW).

BNEA320’s opinion is that international borders should be opened, which I strongly disagree with.

After admitting you don’t know the best way to handle the virus is you then opine that closing the borders is ridiculous. Apart from that cognitive dissonance, can you not see that there is no middle ground with the virus? Either we eradicate it or we deal with surges with more lock-downs and the whole whack-a-mole endless crisis. Or we could always adopt the populist approach and let it burn through the population and hope that immunity is robust and long-lasting, neither of which is currently in evidence.

There have been quite a few health care workers die from this thing after caring for those infected with Covid. I’m pretty sure they were healthy when they started work at the beginning of this.

And you think the UK economy will be kicking off nicely? Really, please don’t give anyone close to you financial advice anytime soon.

And then we get into insurrection talk, I hope the CIA don’t scan PPrune.

A quick google shows 151 doctors and more than 40 nurses have died in Italy from coronavirus disease (that was dated April)

Any evidence to back up the medical resources?

The large cities have enough resources to cover small numbers (outbreaks) in the community, should we start getting +1000 new cases a day - we simply do not have enough ICU beds, Vic has had 5 or so ICU beds this past few days.

Pick a rural town of 5,000 people and introduce the virus, then follow the Gray Nomad (with or without symptoms) interaction and location for a 2 week period over many towns and public locations.

RFDS will need extra funding to transport the country folk to the ICU beds with ventilators.

State borders are not closed and never have been.:ugh:

Restricted, not closed.

Closed to discretionary travelers, ie tourists but open to pretty much everyone else.

Have just been issued a new border pass for QLD. Conditions imposed same or tougher than prior to "opening".:D

Get over it. Be it drought, bushfires or Covid 19, without a TV 99% of Australians would not even be aware of it.

Sad but true.

The RFDS have got extra funding for Covid ops...Is it enough...? hopefully we will never get to find out. I suspect if the workload got heavy other assets such as the military would also come into play. A story today from the Qld papers said they had 250 applicants for the Mount Isa job so pilots aren’t an issue!

In terms of medical resources the HPPC has been advising there is no need to close state borders so they seem comfortable with the resources available. If they didn’t know then no one would.The states are only shut ( or restricted Curra 😁) for the premiers ratings. The HPPC are also the ones saying to keep the international borders shut. I find myself agreeing with that state of play, in my learned view.

It is never enough!

Not sure if you are aware, but with closed borders state and international (Worldwide) and other tough restrictions, the mortality rate of resolved cases has been dropping.

Just a couple or maybe 3 weeks ago of all known resolved cases 12% were in death, today it stands at 8%. When this first got serious in Australia, the intrusive test results were taking around 5 days to get a result, now we get the result often same or following day. There is also a saliva test that is much more pleasant to take. Closed boarders have allowed us to get better prepared.

Victoria is a classic example that we are not fully prepared to open borders, having the virus around in small numbers is manageable but allowing exponential growth and not being able to put a cap on it extremely fast is the problem.

Government employees will tow the government line - Scomo's focus is on the economy, his employees will tailor discussion toward that focus.

Now if we just open everything up and let it go wild - we could loose much of or indigenous population, destroying many tribes and their culture and tourism that it generates. Then get placed on many countries no go travel list due to our high levels of virus, destroying more tourism when we open international boarders for many more years to come.

Several states are opening up borders soon, responsible one will shut them fast in cases rise even in small numbers.

Just like Nero burning Rome down to the ground. Don't forget people if you go outside
your postcode we will crucify you. Don't expect that state to pay for it either.
Buy your own planks of wood from Bunnings and the Covid police will do the rest.
From the honourable Emperor Dan

Section 2B has some competition

Bit of a stupid statement: Because they're health workers they must be healthy??? I've seen so many many morbidly obese doctors and nurses in the UK it defies belief.

And how do you know the body mass of deceased health care workers? Dr Li Wenliang wasn’t obese, and neither were most of the deceased health care workers I have seen mentioned since. We really don’t want to go down the road of deciding who is expendable and who isn’t for what should be obvious reasons.

So the 20-30 year olds in the USA are not healthy?

Really White Knight, that is your contribution? Okkkkkkkkkkk.

Here we are how many weeks on and...

"The reopening of Queensland's borders to interstate visitors will do little to revive the state's crippled tourism sector."

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-07-...-open/12407718

Yeah, that'll work...

Seems to be a bit of a reaction going on to something to be announced at such short notice. That will teach the Victorians to try and do things for their mates.

Andrews should grow some balls and close Victoria’s borders for the sake of the country. What a joke. Anyone who broke quarantine rules down there, including security guards, should be jailed.

What stunning ineptitude on the part of the Victorian government. Well, except not many people would be actually stunned at the display of gross mismanagement. The defence of our borders got moved to quarantine hotels, yet the military was sidelined in favour of the bozo sector of private security.

The fifty per flight cap would surely render the whole idea moot from a cost perspective. Perhaps Morrison should just pause the entire inbound passenger services for a couple of weeks until we see if we can stuff the genie back into the bottle.

Cut Melbourne off from the Regional areas. Essentially the entire of Metro Melbourne keep isolated from everywhere else. Lock down Metro Melbourne.

Cut Geelong off from Melbourne. Bendigo etc...