Originally Posted by Mach E Avelli
(Post 10831590)
The problem now is the unrelenting retards already loose in our community who ignore best advice from medical experts and run around infecting others.
Yesterday someone was telling me that the lockdown does not apply to recreational flying. Everyone has an excuse why the rules should not apply to them. |
Originally Posted by andrewr
(Post 10832459)
Pilots are not an exception. I know pilots who went flying during the first lock down when they were not supposed to be leaving their homes. A couple of weeks ago there was a fly-in in Victoria when gatherings were supposed to be limited to 10 people.
Yesterday someone was telling me that the lockdown does not apply to recreational flying. Everyone has an excuse why the rules should not apply to them. Its not one of the 4 reasons to leave your home is it? (Supplies, education, medical, giving care). the authorities could be even stricter this lock down if you take off from a Melbourne metro aeridrome and fly to ththe country |
Green dot, I’m not sure what you are using my quote for? Mine was in regards to freaks on YouTube and their followers. Nothing to do with the SNAFU with the hotel guards in Victoria. That one speaks for itself. There’s seems to be in the Victorian Government culture a reluctance to use defence assets. No surprise given the deputy chief medical officers social views. They are taking medical advice from someone who can’t even control herself on Twitter. Unfortunately the Victorian situation although not unexpected has set the aviation cause back a number of months. I think however that is more to do with the nature of the virus and could happen in any of the states.
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Originally Posted by ECAMACTIONSCOMPLETE
(Post 10832462)
the lockdown absolutely applies to recreational flying.
Another example is Gordon Rich-Phillips, who was flying around the state during the first lockdown and giving pilots a bad name. A reminder that with ADSB everyone can see who you are and where you go. (Also probably Avplan and OzRunways if you use the traffic features.) |
Apparently the McG hard border is as porous as chicken wire.
https://www.watoday.com.au/national/...08-p55a8s.html |
Originally Posted by ozbiggles
(Post 10832471)
Green dot, I’m not sure what you are using my quote for? Mine was in regards to freaks on YouTube and their followers.
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Unfortunately the Victorian situation although not unexpected has set the aviation cause back a number of months. He is incompetent and has now cost the economy billions. |
Jetstar had fairly solid capacity plans from July onwards so that is all gone now. Bulk of it cycles through Victoria. Essentially it pushes them back 4 months. That’s another half a Billon dollar plus burden for the QF group.
I wouldn’t expect Melbourne to Queensland until November. There will be a fairly long monitoring period once the lockdown is over to see if Victoria can manage. Anastasia will be in no hurry to open her state up to Victoria as seen previously. Any NSW spike and you can forget going anywhere this year. |
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Coronavirus Cases: 8,886from worldometers. |
Originally Posted by wheels_down
(Post 10832506)
Jetstar had fairly solid capacity plans from July onwards so that is all gone now. Bulk of it cycles through Victoria. Essentially it pushes them back 4 months. That’s another half a Billon dollar plus burden for the QF group.
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Originally Posted by Ragnor
(Post 10832531)
How is it a burden to QANTAS group? I feel you’re comments are coming from a emotional and personal perspective.
It doesn’t matter what state you live in, consumer confidence nationally will fall following the Vic spikes. |
He/She maybe right, I’m sure QF group will not spend 1 cent more than it has to on any part of the group unless it’s to buy Cobham, If JQ is a burden I’m sure they won’t let it be as I’m sure if any part of QANTAS mainline is a burden it will go also. No one is safe at the moment.
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Originally Posted by Ragnor
(Post 10832542)
He/She maybe right, I’m sure QF group will not spend 1 cent more than it has to on any part of the group unless it’s to buy Cobham, If JQ is a burden I’m sure they won’t let it be as I’m sure if any part of QANTAS mainline is a burden it will go also. No one is safe at the moment.
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Let the 1% die. If they don’t then great. Move along nothing to see here. Reopen everything in the economy and let’s get on with life. This lockdown will do more damage to health than the disease. Totally over this farce now.
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You are quoting figures from Australia.
If you want to let it rip (thanks for volunteering your old folks and probably yourGP as tribute) then do the figures for the American figures or that now fallen star of Sweden who’s chief epidemiologist now admits he got it wrong. The Victorian figures now are trending worse then when all this started so the stats for your argument are probably shortly to be outdated, Anyway this may be the least of our issues as we poke China in the eye over mini China. |
Originally Posted by Chronic Snoozer
(Post 10832474)
Apparently the McG hard border is as porous as chicken wire.
https://www.watoday.com.au/national/...08-p55a8s.html |
Originally Posted by Ragnor
(Post 10832531)
You base this on what facts? I understand capacity into and out of Victoria is affected, QLD NSW and other states showing strong demand loads have been over 175 to sold out everywhere I’ve been. 4 months is a made up figure unless you have facts stating otherwise if so please share. How is it a burden to QANTAS group? I feel you’re comments are coming from a emotional and personal perspective.
The burden for any airline especially QF and VA is the prolonged cash burn. Jetstar had significant plans in capacity for the next half out of Melbourne. Melbourne is a large Jetstar base. Alan and Gareth were fairly bullish in regards to domestic capacity in the next half. They had to, no choice, need to reduce that cash burn. Another 4 months of standstill will just drag that cash burn on and on. Not much opportunity to reduce it. You just hope there isn’t an outbreak in NSW. I’m not overly confident Melbourne can keep a lid on it either after September. Essentially we need to wait until Mid to Late September to see how Melbourne goes during round 2 in order to work out where we go next. |
WA borders just got a lot tighter. Both national and international. People who were coming from Victoria to work on the mines and things like that.. no longer can. If you have been in Victoria in the last 14 days.. you are no longer allowed to come into WA, no matter what reason you have. The only exception are transport and freight workers. More to come ...
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Originally Posted by zanthrus
(Post 10832558)
Let the 1% die. If they don’t then great. Move along nothing to see here. Reopen everything in the economy and let’s get on with life. This lockdown will do more damage to health than the disease. Totally over this farce now.
Sounds nice to me, I vote you first |
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