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Square Bear 5th Jul 2020 10:13

Bodie 1

I'd say by Dr D's comments "What makes you think military personnel would’ve been acted any differently?" he simply see that a rent a cop on 20 bucks an hour, working Uber in his off shift is a just the same as one the would have to put his life on the line to protect those that make such idiotic statements......hard hat on for the vitriol or trolling that may follow.

Bodie1 5th Jul 2020 10:22


Well no you’re wrong. both sides of politics have done very well in other states and territories.


Dan Andrews is the problem here.
Totally. 100%

Bodie1 5th Jul 2020 10:24


I'd say by Dr D's comments "What makes you think military personnel would’ve been acted any differently?" he simply see that a rent a cop on 20 bucks an hour, working Uber in his off shift is a just the same as one the would have to put his life on the line to protect those that make such idiotic statements......hard hat on for the vitriol or trolling that may follow.
I'm hearin' ya! Let the outraged and the trolls go hard.

Buster Hyman 5th Jul 2020 12:59


Originally Posted by Stickshift3000 (Post 10829418)
The same incompetent department staff would have overseen the under resourced and overworked staff at the front line.

Having worked in the VPS, I can assure you that incompetence is a prerequisite for career advancement!

normanton 6th Jul 2020 01:30

I assume we can now rename the thread?

Slezy9 6th Jul 2020 01:37


Originally Posted by normanton (Post 10829981)
I assume we can now rename the thread?


May I suggest BNEA320 wrong again?

SOPS 6th Jul 2020 01:38

Yes. It should be renamed... all borders will be closed UFN.

DanV2 6th Jul 2020 03:04


Originally Posted by Slezy9 (Post 10829983)
May I suggest BNEA320 / TT738 wrong again?

Fixed it for you :)

Green.Dot 6th Jul 2020 03:48

This looks to be getting a lot worse on a national economic scale before it will get better. Victoria was a key element in the growth of a domestic market but I think Dan The Union Man and his security guards have screwed everything including the pooch

ozbiggles 6th Jul 2020 03:51

I think you will find the troops involved in that little party in Townsville will be regretting it for the rest of their careers and rightly so. The fines they got hit with will be the easy part. I see some of the troops doing this Hotel gig getting their morning briefings before heading out. They are left in no doubt what will happen if they stuff up.

Square Bear 6th Jul 2020 09:27

Victoria is extremely targeted in its unprecedented enforced and targeted isolation.

Wondering why so targeted....obviously information know only to the intelligence gatherers, but concerning, especially that this is so against the DNA of the Victorian Labor Government.

ozbiggles 6th Jul 2020 09:44

Because that is where the virus is? Same thing happened in Singapore with the migrant workers. Living in those arrangements is as the Feds are saying just a vertical cruise liner...without the nightclubs. I don’t think there is any sinister plot happening. Maybe if they put HEPA filters on the building it will solve it.

Bend alot 6th Jul 2020 12:49


Originally Posted by ozbiggles (Post 10830214)
Because that is where the virus is? Same thing happened in Singapore with the migrant workers. Living in those arrangements is as the Feds are saying just a vertical cruise liner...without the nightclubs. I don’t think there is any sinister plot happening. Maybe if they put HEPA filters on the building it will solve it.

Cruise liners only had a few ships with any numbers (most one brand) a myth like HEPA filters on a Dash !

ozbiggles 6th Jul 2020 13:11

You are right, I mean the Ruby Princess only had 340 cases of Covid and it’s not like that many people died on it...

compressor stall 7th Jul 2020 00:01

Having private security at the lowest $ to guard quarantine is not a great idea, but that's what you get for lowest price tendering. Imagine the uproar if company XY got it at $Z million more per week as it actually was including proper PPE training and did some personality/psych screening. There be accusations of cronyism and a front page spread that Dan's third cousin's child's dog breeder was the GM.

However, the missus works at a major hospital and has been telling me for weeks that she is more worried about catching COVD from some of the other nurses than the patients (especially as many nurses work across multiple hospitals). They crowd in the tea room and behind the desk. She does her best to avoid them each shift.

And now we have an outbreak in a major hospital amongst nursing staff? I will bet that they didn't all get it from a patient.

The point of that is that even if they put nursing and healthcare staff on quarantine hotels staffing rosters, COVID might have got out anyway. Something other governments are starting to realise by calling and restricting the number of inbound OS pax.

This outbreak - although not great - is a sharp wakeup call to all if governments are trying to eliminate this virus from AU. Better now than in 3 months when everything is more relaxed and it would travel further and faster.

Australopithecus 7th Jul 2020 00:56

Not the lowest bidder because there wasn’t a tender process, but yeah, a sector not known for its high mensa membership, unsupervised, untrained, and ill-equipped with PPE. This virus demands vigilance and rigorous hygiene practices to overcome. Instead, we got wishful thinking and “she'll be right, mate”

wheels_down 7th Jul 2020 04:03

July’s roster is about to go down the Toilet.

Dan about to isolate Melbourne. Geelong to escape. News coming out soon.

currawong 7th Jul 2020 04:36

"The point of that is that even if they put nursing and healthcare staff on quarantine hotels staffing rosters, COVID might have got out anyway. Something other governments are starting to realise by calling and restricting the number of inbound OS pax."

That is incorrect also.

The inbound numbers are being limited because quarantine facilities are reaching capacity.


Stickshift3000 7th Jul 2020 06:30


Originally Posted by currawong (Post 10830845)
The inbound numbers are being limited because quarantine facilities are reaching capacity.

Incorrect.

The number of international arrivals currently in Vic quarantine is not particularly high at all as at today. In fact, not even all hotels that have been used for quarantine are currently in use today.

Inbound international flights have been turned away to other Aus destinations so that Vic can improve it's quarantine practices and procedures. While the practices are being changed wouldn't be a great time to receive hundreds of people per day.

Buster Hyman 7th Jul 2020 06:35

YMAV might get busy....


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