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Mach E Avelli 8th Jul 2020 03:36


Originally Posted by Global Aviator (Post 10831434)
There are still many repatriation flights being organised, simple fact.

Yes the government decides where they must go, ultimately quarantine decision.

I fear while plane loads are still inbound the flare ups will continue.

The 'plane loads of inbounds' are no longer the problem. It is easy for the authorities to identify, test and quarantine the limited number of arrivals from overseas.

The problem now is the unrelenting retards already loose in our community who ignore best advice from medical experts and run around infecting others. A token fine won't deter these idiots - in any case most would not be able to pay a fine. Cutting their dole should be an option, but the civil liberties mob would raise a stink at that idea. Mandatory testing for anyone posing a risk is also something much needed, and again opposed by the bleeding heart brigade.
Perhaps tracking cuffs like they fit to criminals out on parole in some places needs to become mandatory for anyone subject to a quarantine order, but again the civil libertarians would object.
Offenders need to be removed to somewhere out of the general populous like a big jail in the desert. Ground zero at Maralinga would be ideal.

kingRB 8th Jul 2020 04:05


Originally Posted by dr dre (Post 10831568)
That “commentator” is one of those far right “patriots” who have been rising in prominence over the last few years. He’s also a convicted wife basher who used a wooden chopping board to bash his ex wife.

You’ve got to think of the mental capacity of people who post uneducated rubbish from the utter filth of society like this guy and pass it off as “science”.


were you able to specifically address what was incorrect or non factual in that video, or do you just prefer to stick to the ad hominem approach?

ozbiggles 8th Jul 2020 04:22

Are you able to show one that is correct? Without using YouTube as a ‘credible’ source?

Some other standard questions
Did 9/11 have some other conspiracy about it?
Did the moon landing actually occur?
Was there only one shooter of JFK?
Was Trevor Chappel following CIA orders to bowl underarm to destabilise Aus Nz relations and create a starting point for WWIII?

Stickshift3000 8th Jul 2020 04:30


Originally Posted by Mach E Avelli (Post 10831590)
The 'plane loads of inbounds' are no longer the problem. It is easy for the authorities to identify, test and quarantine the limited number of arrivals from overseas.

The problem now is the unrelenting retards already loose in our community who ignore best advice from medical experts and run around infecting others. A token fine won't deter these idiots - in any case most would not be able to pay a fine. Cutting their dole should be an option, but the civil liberties mob would raise a stink at that idea. Mandatory testing for anyone posing a risk is also something much needed, and again opposed by the bleeding heart brigade.
Perhaps tracking cuffs like they fit to criminals out on parole in some places needs to become mandatory for anyone subject to a quarantine order, but again the civil libertarians would object.
Offenders need to be removed to somewhere out of the general populous like a big jail in the desert. Ground zero at Maralinga would be ideal.

Yep, that and numerous systemic breakdowns in critical government checks and protocols:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-07-...eened/12433286

Lookleft 8th Jul 2020 04:42

The assessment of the factual basis of any you tube presentation of "the facts" and "this is where the media gets it wrong" is that it is BS. That is relevant for either wing of the political parrot that is being spruiked. Too much of this crap gets "shared" and "liked" on social media without anyone just doing a quick search of the organisation behind the presentation. If you wouldn't put their leaflets in a letter box drop then don't spread it around on the internet.

Section28- BE 8th Jul 2020 04:49

ex ABC: Major coronavirus breach at Sydney Airport as entire flight from Melbourne..
 
Article link here: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-07-...eened/12433286


Passengers on a flight from Melbourne to Sydney last night disembarked without being screened by NSW Health officials, in a major breach of the state's coronavirus protocols.
......
rgds
S28

directimped 8th Jul 2020 05:02


Originally Posted by Section28- BE (Post 10831612)

Where are all the Dan haters now?

Stickshift3000 8th Jul 2020 05:10


Originally Posted by Lookleft (Post 10831610)
The assessment of the factual basis of any you tube presentation of "the facts" and "this is where the media gets it wrong" is that it is BS. That is relevant for either wing of the political parrot that is being spruiked. Too much of this crap gets "shared" and "liked" on social media without anyone just doing a quick search of the organisation behind the presentation. If you wouldn't put their leaflets in a letter box drop then don't spread it around on the internet.

We live in the age of misinformation..!

Ragnor 8th Jul 2020 05:18

Surely everyone does not believe that we will be in this good position in two weeks time?! Have to be honest with ourselves. NSW should have closed the borders ASAP not given 72hrs notice. There is now 3 confirmed cases in ACT two traveled to ML one was a close contact those three went to markets went to Belconnen shopping centre who knows how many they could have affected. School holidays plenty Victorians travelling, COVID will run rampart again in two or three weeks.

Stickshift3000 8th Jul 2020 06:05


Originally Posted by directimped (Post 10831619)
Where are all the Dan haters now?

To ensure fairness the NSW government probably felt the need to treat these air arrivals as they did the arrivals from the Ruby Princess. They have a pretty good record for this type of thing.

Chris2303 8th Jul 2020 06:12


Originally Posted by chazwazza14 (Post 10831514)
Dan used a contractor, who then used a sub contractor, so there is no accountability. When there is no accountability, you have people who don’t care, you have people that have less training, and this leads the breaks in protocol.

There is accountability.
The subbies are accountable to the prime contractor
The prime contractor is responsible to the government department that hired them (and I'm picking that isn't Dan personally)
The Government department is responsible to their political masters

DirectAnywhere 8th Jul 2020 06:20


Originally Posted by Ragnor (Post 10831624)
Surely everyone does not believe that we will be in this good position in two weeks time?! Have to be honest with ourselves. NSW should have closed the borders ASAP not given 72hrs notice. There is now 3 confirmed cases in ACT two traveled to ML one was a close contact those three went to markets went to Belconnen shopping centre who knows how many they could have affected. School holidays plenty Victorians travelling, COVID will run rampart again in two or three weeks.

I suspect that Queensland will announce a delay to its border opening to NSW for another few weeks. I think there’s real concern in NSW Health that potentially infected travellers have had unrestricted access to NSW. It’s going to be a lot harder to put this genie back in the bottle than in March.

Buster Hyman 8th Jul 2020 06:32


Originally Posted by directimped (Post 10831619)
Where are all the Dan haters now?

They're in lockdown.:hmm:

wheels_down 8th Jul 2020 07:16

Dan needs a story to divert some attention away from his blunders.

Oh here comes the next biggy, top job Jetstar!

Ragnor 8th Jul 2020 07:37

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Oh here comes the next biggy, top job Jetstar![/QUOTE]

Yeah good one mate you’re a real specimen. It’s NSW health and AFP to stop and screen passengers entering from ML.

currawong 8th Jul 2020 09:17


Originally Posted by Ragnor (Post 10831716)
Yeah good one mate you’re a real specimen. It’s NSW health and AFP to stop and screen passengers entering from ML.

Not how it is being reported...

"An email from Sydney Airport leaked to the ABC claims Jetstar breached NSW Government health orders by allowing travellers on flight JQ520, which landed at 6:53pm, to get off without being checked."

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-07-...eened/12433286

https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/...08-p55a68.html

https://7news.com.au/travel/coronavi...ning-c-1153369

wheels_down 8th Jul 2020 11:45


Originally Posted by Ragnor (Post 10831716)
Yeah good one mate you’re a real specimen. It’s NSW health and AFP to stop and screen passengers entering from ML.

Garbage

As part of the procedure, Jetstar handover the manifest and passengers to the Health Department at the gate.

The did not. They just let them all off. They managed to get about two thirds of them back by chasing after them all.

Nine said health officials and authorities were grilling Jetstar staff at the gate soon after on why they did not follow instructions.

Green.Dot 8th Jul 2020 21:43


Originally Posted by ozbiggles (Post 10831576)
I think you also have to think about the mental capacity of those who believe it.

Hopefully the $3 million enquiry will tell all. But what we do know is the Victorian Government used sh*te IQ security for hotel quarantine.

This is the match that has lit up the bushfire. COVID-19 is wild again just when we were winning the fight (in Australia at least).

If you are happy to live with the Australian economy going into a full depression, lose your job with more redundancies on the cards and watch your friends & family not able to work in other sectors as a direct result of this then you are a more forgiving person than me.


Green.Dot 8th Jul 2020 22:30

An MPs view on it for those who didn’t like the guy in the other video...

https://www.2gb.com/that-incompetent...ne-locks-down/

Bodie1 8th Jul 2020 22:38

Doesn't matter the source, they'll find a problem with it.

The message is the same.


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