I'm kind of glad it didn't go ahead tbh. Qantas are monopolising. Competition is a good thing.

It also removes the option of yet another BU to use as a wedge to force conditions down. A very good decision.

I have to say I am surprised. I wonder what Plan B is?

Good decision. From a pilot perspective, the near complete monopoly of airline careers QF would have had with a takeover was not right. We have already seen paranoid pilots resigning from Alliance to protect their QF aspirations against rumoured anti-poaching deals. That’s an industrial monopoly!

I reckon NJS or Network is about to get a whole lot bigger….

With new EBA's coming up around the country within Alliance, without Qantas looming, hopefully a good deal can be struck.

Well they can just continue to wet lease aircraft from Alliance can’t they? Under the same provisions as the current 18 (soon to be 30) E-jets, they just wet lease more.

Right now they’re scraping the bottom of the barrel and can’t even get more than single digit application numbers - unless they beg for a mass of 457s.

The big winners from this are the Alliance crew who won’t have career progression hamstrung by being one of the QF subsidiaries, and NJS crew.

This is a major problem across the entire group probably apart from mainline. AJ and co have made the entire place an undesirable place to work.

So summing up:

QF have just lost their attempt to increase their strangle hold on aviation in Australia. The protracted attacks on pay and conditions have made, not just the company but the industry, so undesirable that they cannot attract staff the way they used to. There are alternative industries popping up who are light years ahead in regard to staff treatment. Their answer to the staff shortages will be to try attracting foreign labour into a country where the downward pressure on T&C’s is nicely juxtaposed with the spiralling upward pressure in the cost of living, thus making Oz unattractive. Massive (finally) investment in fleet renewal requiring unprecedented expenditure, but also a huge increase in staff numbers. I don’t see how this period can end well for QF.

I’m not. They clearly would have known this was coming, surely. I mean, the hints the Chair gave away in her speech to the National Press Club the other week, read between the lines, I did.

Plan B, involves the removal of Alan, and focusing on its three core businesses, Link, Star and Roo. This is a good outcome for the good people in those businesses. Was another distraction the business was about to be left with.

Just how far do the QF Tentacles spread in Australian Aviation?

1. Qantas Mainline
2. Jetstar
3. Former Cobham Airline Services 717 operation
4. Jet Connect
5. Network Aviation
6. Eastern Airlines
7. Sunstate Airlines
8. Express Freighters Australia

Is Air North still under the influence?

I think the right decision has been made. Give it twelve months and I'm sure Qantas will have strong armed Alliance into the brand. I don't think they like being told no. Especially by a pesky Government government department whom they have given fancy lounge memberships to. :=

I’m more interested in what plan B is for Alliance. Get the feeling they were putting all their eggs in one basket with QF. Now what?

I feel sorry for whoever takes over, after Alan leaves with 24 million bonus in his pocket for doing an “ amazing job”.. the investment the new CEO will be required to do will be huge!!

Likely the Ejet’s could be used to replace the older Fokker’s.

A number of the next batch of Ejet’s they have signed for are going to be used as spares ships.

I don’t think there’s anything stopping QF from leasing as many Ejet’s from QQ as they want.

I bet it’s stinging Alan a bit that the ACCC won’t even meet his demand for an urgent meeting to “understand” the decision.

The jungle jets (30) are wet leased to QF for another 9 years and the F100s are mainly VA and FIFO...........Can't see the need for a plan B as it's business as usual.

So who put up the money for the 30 Ejets? You wouldn’t think Qantas would do that without the Government approval to buy Alliance.

I expect the current CEO doesn’t care one iota how it ends for Qantas. Their entire concern has likely always been maximising the fill of their own pockets before walking out the door. Read Joe Aston’s recent article.

The incoming CEO is walking into a disaster. An incredible CAPEX requirement the likes of which have never been seen. Horrible public sentiment. A completely disengaged, angry workforce. A federal Labor government who are putting a stop to a lot of the industrial bullying. And a vastly inflated share price based on short term profits generated by having largely dysfunctional competition and the ability to limit seats and jack up prices post COVID.

The bubble is going to burst, to be sure to be sure. And the piss-weak board have been complicit. I wonder if, in years to come, this train-wreck will become a learning experience for the finance and corporate sector.

Well done to the ACCC on standing up to them. Perhaps FairWork will grow some balls now too.

Lets not forget the VA alliance is also up for a final determination with indications of it being denied:

https://www.accc.gov.au/public-regis...nce-airlines-0

I vaguely remember Alliance raising capital in 2020 to buy the e-jets. Sold a heap of shares - Qantas bought as many as the could to maintain their holding.

i could be wrong but Alliance paid for the Jungle Jets