Network EBA
Maybe some of the big mines will start their own operations.
Employ the current network guys on more money than QF domestic, in an attempt to retain sufficiently skilled pilots and reduce the millions being wasted on aircraft endorsements each month (as abused pilots leave for greener pastures).
then they don’t risk a crash with a 500 hour FO “single pilot” operation.
Employ the current network guys on more money than QF domestic, in an attempt to retain sufficiently skilled pilots and reduce the millions being wasted on aircraft endorsements each month (as abused pilots leave for greener pastures).
then they don’t risk a crash with a 500 hour FO “single pilot” operation.
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When Qantas HR has to threaten new hires who don’t bid for SH on day 1 with termination in their employment contract. New hires who’d rather take a B scale in long haul. Something is amiss and building in the industry.
It’s certainly rearing its head in the links. It’s apparent in SH with a lack of eligible bidders. It’s evident at JQ with unfilled commands.
QF are generally quite tone deaf, so it’ll take a while. But they’ll get it in the end. Most likely too late as always.
It’s certainly rearing its head in the links. It’s apparent in SH with a lack of eligible bidders. It’s evident at JQ with unfilled commands.
QF are generally quite tone deaf, so it’ll take a while. But they’ll get it in the end. Most likely too late as always.
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I really thought our management had brains. The last 10 years has shocked me. They have zero idea how to run a full service airline. It’s depressing. Outsourcing decision making to a bunch of parasites now.
Give the pilot group 5 mins at the helm and see what happens.
Give the pilot group 5 mins at the helm and see what happens.
Well, I have it on good authority that Qantas is about to bring Jetconnect into the fold on the SH EBA.
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As long as those nuances include a ban on any subsequent change of operation. If QF get NAA on a cheaper more flexible deal, full blown capital city flying will wangle its way in. Multi day trips and BOC will become part of the deal. That should cost QF dearly, like SH dearly, not that any QF pilot is on a competitive deal nowadays.
AOCs and aircraft registrations won't matter as JQ NZ found out some years ago.
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(The fact that they are now giving out Brissy 737 to new hires makes the decision for a lot of punters anyway.)
Yes, I believe this has nothing to do with the 'same work same pay legislation' and more to do with the fact they are only getting 400 hours per year out of a Jetconnect pilot due to the inability to mix in some domestic OZ flying I their patterns. Only way they will be able to do that is have them on the SH EBA.
Being NZ workers I don't think Jetconnect crew will stand to benefit under any same job same pay movement.
Fair Work Australia has dismissed an Australian and International Airline Pilots’ Association (AIPA) application to have pilots employed by Qantas’s New Zealand based Jetconnect subsidiary brought under Australian industrial laws and arrangements.
It is a New Zealand registered company with its head office and management based in Auckland. Although there was extensive evidence and argument in the present proceedings regarding the relationship between Qantas and its subsidiary company, in our view this does not satisfy the requirement … of the definition of ‘Australian employer’ in … the WR Act that it is relevantly carrying on business in Australia.”
But AIPA said in a statement that in the two-to-one “split decision” that the “FWA bench ruled that it was unable to prevent the Qantas Group from using the hollow company to employ pilots and crew flying into and out of Australia on lower New Zealand wages and conditions.”
In 2024, with new legislation pending with the sole intent to prevent this sort of activity from reducing upwards pressure on Australian wages, and reducing the number of Australian jobs, and with Jetconnect no longer being an Airline at all but a self professed labour hire company, with only one client, would it be a split decision at all? The FWC wouldn’t be ruling on any NZ laws and regulations, they would be ruling on whether or not Qantas can use that overseas labour hire company. If they can, then what is to stop Australian carriers from using labour hire companies in Bali and Singapore and Los Angeles to do a similar thing?
It would certainly be an interesting case if AIPA were to bring it.
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That one dissenting voice in the 2-1 vote must have had grounds to see it that way. I think the legal (and not so legal) landscape is quite different now and I believe a similar vote could go against the airline. If not, the airline will head off on another self destructive folly and in due course we may be speaking about QF in the past tense.
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AIPA should totally take up the case against JC again.
I hear rumors the middle managment have done the numbers for integrating JC, and it will save them money. The industrial hammer of having seperate entities is a thing of yesteryear. Come on IR. Do some cost benefit analysis and work out the benefits of integrating subsieries back into one strong flexible pilot group. Be innovative and try and fix some of the massive problems that are comming your way. Or just keep you head in the sand and cancel flights because of lack of crew.
I hear rumors the middle managment have done the numbers for integrating JC, and it will save them money. The industrial hammer of having seperate entities is a thing of yesteryear. Come on IR. Do some cost benefit analysis and work out the benefits of integrating subsieries back into one strong flexible pilot group. Be innovative and try and fix some of the massive problems that are comming your way. Or just keep you head in the sand and cancel flights because of lack of crew.
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AIPA should totally take up the case against JC again.
I hear rumors the middle managment have done the numbers for integrating JC, and it will save them money. The industrial hammer of having seperate entities is a thing of yesteryear. Come on IR. Do some cost benefit analysis and work out the benefits of integrating subsieries back into one strong flexible pilot group. Be innovative and try and fix some of the massive problems that are comming your way. Or just keep you head in the sand and cancel flights because of lack of crew.
I hear rumors the middle managment have done the numbers for integrating JC, and it will save them money. The industrial hammer of having seperate entities is a thing of yesteryear. Come on IR. Do some cost benefit analysis and work out the benefits of integrating subsieries back into one strong flexible pilot group. Be innovative and try and fix some of the massive problems that are comming your way. Or just keep you head in the sand and cancel flights because of lack of crew.
They’ll rather cancel flights, ground the airline & ask for government handouts.
The “Spirit of Australia”
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Has any one heard of the strike breaking management crew who got alpha floor and flap overspeed in the A320 during one of the PIA days going into Solomon. Landed and then flew back home. Meanwhile if a line pilot did that they would be persecuted? Allegedly no planes to rescue them so they were allowed to fly back after a serious incident....
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How many protocols were glossed over to get the aircraft home that day? All in the interest of usurping a legal industrial action. Appalling
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Every flight to Sydney on Wednesday and Thursday cancelled as I assume they want those airframes in WA.
I can't actually fathom how much they are willing to spend on this gamble with the fair work commission.
Maybe I'm just naive but f**k me this is abhorent.
I can't actually fathom how much they are willing to spend on this gamble with the fair work commission.
Maybe I'm just naive but f**k me this is abhorent.
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Vanessa really is channeling Alan at the moment.
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