Qantas pilot sues the airline for sexual harassment
Define 'real world'. At the international airline where I previously worked (not in Oz), we had a number of 'permanent' FOs. In most cases they had already tried for a command at least once and were subsequently assessed as not suitable for further command training. They were still perfectly capable of fulfilling the role of FO.
HUGE DIFFERENCE between PERMANENT FOs and those waiting 20 something years for a command vacancy to come up. Two totally different issues., but you missed that.
Obviously you know very little about the Airline industry outside of your bubble, banging on about QF Cabon( sic) managers and your mates from Ansett etc. In the real world they don't have permanent FOs, that was the point. No one mention gender but you.
Obviously you know very little about the Airline industry outside of your bubble, banging on about QF Cabon( sic) managers and your mates from Ansett etc. In the real world they don't have permanent FOs, that was the point. No one mention gender but you.
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Probably not PC but I'm gonna call BS on the sexual harrasment.
Probably not PC but I'm gonna call BS on the sexual harrasment.
https://www.travelweekly.com.au/arti...p5dUFNiKdOMxyw
Probably not PC but I'm gonna call BS on the sexual harrasment.
Probably not PC but I'm gonna call BS on the sexual harrasment.
Newscorp claim the events occurred 20-25 years ago.
ANYHOO, this is what she is after. Qantas will hire female suitable pilots as they become available. You cannot go and just hire for the sake of a quota. It is being made out like the place is falling apart due lack of female pilots. I can tell you, it is not. Sure it would be great to see an increase, but if they are not available they are not available. They are not appearing at recruitment drives, go back further in the food chain if you want to make an impact on female quotas in this industry, that is where it all starts.
ANYHOO, this is what she is after. Qantas will hire female suitable pilots as they become available. You cannot go and just hire for the sake of a quota. It is being made out like the place is falling apart due lack of female pilots. I can tell you, it is not. Sure it would be great to see an increase, but if they are not available they are not available. They are not appearing at recruitment drives, go back further in the food chain if you want to make an impact on female quotas in this industry, that is where it all starts.
She is asking the Federal Court to award her a pecuniary penalty and for Qantas to receive a monetary fine for the alleged harassment and discrimination she endured and urges the airline to increase its number of female pilots.
In Qantas it is!
Yes, you could take a minimum time upgrade (if that was your desire) and basically give away control of your life for the next 6-10 years. The other drawback was that if you went for a command on, say, the 737 and failed, you’re now a 737 FO for a couple of years (with the associated pay drop that that could entail). Nobody intends to fail when they attempt an upgrade but some do, and you’d be an idiot if you didn’t consider the financial consequences of not making the grade.
Qantas couldn’t really give a toss if somebody decides to forego promotion and preserve their lifestyle and financial stability. A few old former cadets who’ve never known anything but Qantas may grumble about “lifestylers”, but as long as all the required seats are occupied, management couldn’t care less. The Qantas contract is an unwieldy piece of crap, but at least it (currently) allows you to make your own decisions regarding attempts at promotion.
Yes, you could take a minimum time upgrade (if that was your desire) and basically give away control of your life for the next 6-10 years. The other drawback was that if you went for a command on, say, the 737 and failed, you’re now a 737 FO for a couple of years (with the associated pay drop that that could entail). Nobody intends to fail when they attempt an upgrade but some do, and you’d be an idiot if you didn’t consider the financial consequences of not making the grade.
Qantas couldn’t really give a toss if somebody decides to forego promotion and preserve their lifestyle and financial stability. A few old former cadets who’ve never known anything but Qantas may grumble about “lifestylers”, but as long as all the required seats are occupied, management couldn’t care less. The Qantas contract is an unwieldy piece of crap, but at least it (currently) allows you to make your own decisions regarding attempts at promotion.
HUGE DIFFERENCE between PERMANENT FOs and those waiting 20 something years for a command vacancy to come up. Two totally different issues., but you missed that.
Obviously you know very little about the Airline industry outside of your bubble, banging on about QF Cabon( sic) managers and your mates from Ansett etc. In the real world they don't have permanent FOs, that was the point. No one mention gender but you.
Obviously you know very little about the Airline industry outside of your bubble, banging on about QF Cabon( sic) managers and your mates from Ansett etc. In the real world they don't have permanent FOs, that was the point. No one mention gender but you.
All it takes for evil to flourish is for good men to do nothing. I know I've seen instances of harassement where I SHOULD have said and done more. Bystanders denying it happens is an integral weapon in the harassers arsenal
Believe!!!!!!
(Or you’re probs a sexual predator)
You and Sprite should hook up and be miserable together.
You have a better day too ok? It’s not all that bad.
So true…and I know that most of my colleagues feel the same way. Thank you to those who stand up against bullying and discrimination. Those who don’t recognise it are part of the problem…and they also don’t recognise they are dinosaurs.
No, help where it's needed or you're a tacit facilitator of sexual preditors. You can misstate all you want, what has actually been said is right here on the screen. Are there no women in your life you'd like to see someone step up for if needed? Would you not consider it a problem if no-one did?
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Qantas HR investigated the claims and cleared all of the accused parties of any wrongdoing and has cleared them to return to their duties.
Guaranteed if QF HR could find anything untoward it would have been pursued with great gusto in my opinion.
Some good people have had their reputations dragged through the mud and have been exonerated. Sadly, people allowed that to happen and the chief amongst them has lost any sliver of respect that may have been left.
The person who made the allegations is not back flying.
Draw your own conclusions.
Guaranteed if QF HR could find anything untoward it would have been pursued with great gusto in my opinion.
Some good people have had their reputations dragged through the mud and have been exonerated. Sadly, people allowed that to happen and the chief amongst them has lost any sliver of respect that may have been left.
The person who made the allegations is not back flying.
Draw your own conclusions.