Qantas pilot sues the airline for sexual harassment
Originally Posted by Wizofoz
TOTAL BS. QF has had many permanent FOS. It has also had times when it has taken 20+ years to get a command. Friends who joined in 02 after Ansett are just now getting commands- often only IF they are willing to change base, and some will turn it down to stay senior in base.
The facy that the moment anything to do with gender comes up, the BS merchants start up shows she probably has a point.
The facy that the moment anything to do with gender comes up, the BS merchants start up shows she probably has a point.
Obviously you know very little about the Airline industry outside of your bubble, banging on about QF Cabon( sic) managers and your mates from Ansett etc. In the real world they don't have permanent FOs, that was the point. No one mention gender but you.
Originally Posted by deja vu
In the real world they don't have permanent FOs...
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Originally Posted by deja vu
HUGE DIFFERENCE between PERMANENT FOs and those waiting 20 something years for a command vacancy to come up. Two totally different issues., but you missed that.
Obviously you know very little about the Airline industry outside of your bubble, banging on about QF Cabon( sic) managers and your mates from Ansett etc. In the real world they don't have permanent FOs, that was the point. No one mention gender but you.
Obviously you know very little about the Airline industry outside of your bubble, banging on about QF Cabon( sic) managers and your mates from Ansett etc. In the real world they don't have permanent FOs, that was the point. No one mention gender but you.
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Probably not PC but I'm gonna call BS on the sexual harrasment.
Probably not PC but I'm gonna call BS on the sexual harrasment.
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Probably not PC but I'm gonna call BS on the sexual harrasment.
Probably not PC but I'm gonna call BS on the sexual harrasment.
Newscorp claim the events occurred 20-25 years ago.
ANYHOO, this is what she is after. Qantas will hire female suitable pilots as they become available. You cannot go and just hire for the sake of a quota. It is being made out like the place is falling apart due lack of female pilots. I can tell you, it is not. Sure it would be great to see an increase, but if they are not available they are not available. They are not appearing at recruitment drives, go back further in the food chain if you want to make an impact on female quotas in this industry, that is where it all starts.
ANYHOO, this is what she is after. Qantas will hire female suitable pilots as they become available. You cannot go and just hire for the sake of a quota. It is being made out like the place is falling apart due lack of female pilots. I can tell you, it is not. Sure it would be great to see an increase, but if they are not available they are not available. They are not appearing at recruitment drives, go back further in the food chain if you want to make an impact on female quotas in this industry, that is where it all starts.
She is asking the Federal Court to award her a pecuniary penalty and for Qantas to receive a monetary fine for the alleged harassment and discrimination she endured and urges the airline to increase its number of female pilots.
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Originally Posted by tossbag
23 years an FO, that normal?
Yes, you could take a minimum time upgrade (if that was your desire) and basically give away control of your life for the next 6-10 years. The other drawback was that if you went for a command on, say, the 737 and failed, you’re now a 737 FO for a couple of years (with the associated pay drop that that could entail). Nobody intends to fail when they attempt an upgrade but some do, and you’d be an idiot if you didn’t consider the financial consequences of not making the grade.
Qantas couldn’t really give a toss if somebody decides to forego promotion and preserve their lifestyle and financial stability. A few old former cadets who’ve never known anything but Qantas may grumble about “lifestylers”, but as long as all the required seats are occupied, management couldn’t care less. The Qantas contract is an unwieldy piece of crap, but at least it (currently) allows you to make your own decisions regarding attempts at promotion.
Originally Posted by Wizofoz
And right here we see why we are consider a group of old, white knuckle-dragging dinosaurs.
damn bro slow down. You're gonna break the internet if you keep squeezing any harder for that crumb of virtue
Originally Posted by Sprite
Sexual harassment and discrimination have definitely happened at QF. As in most other workplaces. If you don’t believe it, you are probably part of the problem.
(Or you’re probs a sexual predator).
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Originally Posted by deja vu
HUGE DIFFERENCE between PERMANENT FOs and those waiting 20 something years for a command vacancy to come up. Two totally different issues., but you missed that.
Obviously you know very little about the Airline industry outside of your bubble, banging on about QF Cabon( sic) managers and your mates from Ansett etc. In the real world they don't have permanent FOs, that was the point. No one mention gender but you.
Obviously you know very little about the Airline industry outside of your bubble, banging on about QF Cabon( sic) managers and your mates from Ansett etc. In the real world they don't have permanent FOs, that was the point. No one mention gender but you.
Originally Posted by Sprite
Dumb response.
If using your words is dumb, It kinda proves the point I was making.
Have a great day, and try not to offend yourself by whatever else you happen to say.
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Originally Posted by twentyelevens
Sensitive aren’t we. I just used your words buddy.
If using your words is dumb, It kinda proves the point I was making.
Have a great day, and try not to offend yourself by whatever else you happen to say.
If using your words is dumb, It kinda proves the point I was making.
Have a great day, and try not to offend yourself by whatever else you happen to say.
Originally Posted by Wizofoz
All it takes for evil to flourish is for good men to do nothing. I know I've seen instances of harassement where I SHOULD have said and done more. Bystanders denying it happens is an integral weapon in the harassers arsenal
Believe!!!!!!
(Or you’re probs a sexual predator)
You and Sprite should hook up and be miserable together.
You have a better day too ok? It’s not all that bad.
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Originally Posted by kingRB
damn bro slow down. You're gonna break the internet if you keep squeezing any harder for that crumb of virtue
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Originally Posted by Wizofoz
All it takes for evil to flourish is for good men to do nothing. I know I've seen instances of harassement where I SHOULD have said and done more. Bystanders denying it happens is an integral weapon in the harassers arsenal
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Originally Posted by twentyelevens
So a different version of:
Believe!!!!!!
(Or you’re probs a sexual predator)
You and Sprite should hook up and be miserable together.
You have a better day too ok? It’s not all that bad.
Believe!!!!!!
(Or you’re probs a sexual predator)
You and Sprite should hook up and be miserable together.
You have a better day too ok? It’s not all that bad.
