Qantas pilot sues the airline for sexual harassment
A Qantas pilot who advocated for gender equality at the airline is now suing the company, claiming she was sexually harassed and discriminated against.
Davida Forshaw, who has been with Qantas for 23 years and is still employed as a first officer, alleges she was sexually harassed by some of her male colleagues during her career in a statement of claim she filed to the Federal Court on Wednesday. In the court documents, Ms Forshaw alleges she was told to dye her hair and wear a push-up bra, received a poor performance review after rejecting sexual advances and fetched coffee for pilots. She is seeking monetary compensation from Qantas and is also demanding the airline increase its number of female pilots by introducing a quota. From Daily Mail. |
all gender discrimination claims should be dismissed - we can't define what a woman is anymore, and gender is fluid anyway.
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Time to give the quota agenda a run again. :ugh:
Should we introduce quotas for every occupation where there are more males than females? Not sure why pilots think they are deserving of special attention. I had many female friends and acquaintances in GA. I cannot recall any that didn’t end up in the airlines. One way to increase the numbers into airlines is to encourage more into GA. Not the most exciting career path at present and financially crippling. |
Amazing that this still goes on.
I never will forget 4 years ago with a Jetstar phone interview when they heard my voice and said " Oh, we thought you were a woman" beep beep beep |
Bring on the quotas...
50% male cabin crew 50% male check in staff 50% female engineers 50% female ramp staff 50% plumbers 50% board members Just see how long that lasts. |
Originally Posted by Icarus2001
(Post 11322830)
Bring on the quotas...
50% male cabin crew 50% male check in staff 50% female engineers 50% female ramp staff 50% plumbers 50% board members Just see how long that lasts. |
Tricky, so you ask a colleague out and he/she says no. When you then have them in the sim does that mean you can’t grade them badly for fear of perception that you are being unfair? It will be hard to link a poor grade to previous sexual advances.
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Yeah, I think I am going to remain schtum about my thoughts on this particular subject.
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Like many people, I’m all for the right person doing the right job.
Quotas however are demonstrably flawed. It starts as 50:50 Male:Female. It then becomes Male:Female:Other You then have to define Other in a way that keeps everyone in that category satisfied. Gender fluid? Non binary? (Other options likely considerable). But let’s say 50:50 Male:Female keeps the vast majority of quota hunters happy. We have to move on and realise that, hang on, after we have our perfect 50:50… we actually don’t. Because diversity is itself…diverse. Back to the drawing board when realizing that there is not a 50:50 split of sexualities. Or at least a split that covers all available sexuality “options” and assigns ratios to those that are acceptable to all. Then religions. Then skin. Then hair. Then left handed / right handed. Of course, if 50:50 male:female is hypothetically desired, that itself can LIMIT female pilots in the sense that on a particular intake of 10 pilots there could be 6 suitable females, and one has to miss out because of a quota. Plenty of other issues with quotas. I await the abusive DMs. |
23 years an FO, that normal?
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Originally Posted by kingRB
(Post 11322816)
all gender discrimination claims should be dismissed - we can't define what a woman is anymore, and gender is fluid anyway.
Interesting that all the other comments are people triggered by the term "Quota"-guess they need a safe space. |
She didn't claim gender discrimination- any gender can be sexually harrassed. |
Originally Posted by tossbag
(Post 11322877)
All 32 genders can be sexually harassed??
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Originally Posted by Icarus2001
(Post 11322830)
Bring on the quotas...
50% male cabin crew 50% male check in staff 50% female engineers 50% female ramp staff 50% plumbers 50% board members Just see how long that lasts. |
Originally Posted by tossbag
(Post 11322868)
23 years an FO, that normal?
But could you imagine someone mocking international womens day, horrific. |
Yep. Though when something is "fluid" it doesn't actually have a number of variations. |
No, it's not normal. In days gone by it would have meant goodbye, there is the door, and with good reason. |
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Originally Posted by deja vu
(Post 11322880)
No, its not normal. In days gone by it would have meant goodbye, there is the door, and with good reason. I'd be grateful actually to still have a job.
But could you imagine someone mocking international womens day, horrific. The facy that the moment anything to do with gender comes up, the BS merchants start up shows she probably has a point. |
Originally Posted by Wizofoz
(Post 11322875)
She didn't claim gender discrimination- any gender can be sexually harrassed.
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Originally Posted by Wizofoz
(Post 11322887)
TOTAL BS. QF has had many permanent FOS. It has also had times when it has taken 20+ years to get a command. Friends who joined in 02 after Ansett are just now getting commands- often only IF they are willing to change base, and some will turn it down to stay senior in base.
The facy that the moment anything to do with gender comes up, the BS merchants start up shows she probably has a point. Obviously you know very little about the Airline industry outside of your bubble, banging on about QF Cabon( sic) managers and your mates from Ansett etc. In the real world they don't have permanent FOs, that was the point. No one mention gender but you. |
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