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Old 31st Oct 2022, 01:31
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Qantas pilot sues the airline for sexual harassment

A Qantas pilot who advocated for gender equality at the airline is now suing the company, claiming she was sexually harassed and discriminated against.

Davida Forshaw, who has been with Qantas for 23 years and is still employed as a first officer, alleges she was sexually harassed by some of her male colleagues during her career in a statement of claim she filed to the Federal Court on Wednesday.

In the court documents, Ms Forshaw alleges she was told to dye her hair and wear a push-up bra, received a poor performance review after rejecting sexual advances and fetched coffee for pilots.

She is seeking monetary compensation from Qantas and is also demanding the airline increase its number of female pilots by introducing a quota.

From Daily Mail.

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all gender discrimination claims should be dismissed - we can't define what a woman is anymore, and gender is fluid anyway.
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Time to give the quota agenda a run again.

Should we introduce quotas for every occupation where there are more males than females? Not sure why pilots think they are deserving of special attention.

I had many female friends and acquaintances in GA. I cannot recall any that didn’t end up in the airlines.

One way to increase the numbers into airlines is to encourage more into GA. Not the most exciting career path at present and financially crippling.
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Amazing that this still goes on.

I never will forget 4 years ago with a Jetstar phone interview when they heard my voice and said " Oh, we thought you were a woman" beep beep beep
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Bring on the quotas...

50% male cabin crew
50% male check in staff
50% female engineers
50% female ramp staff
50% plumbers
50% board members

Just see how long that lasts.
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Bring on the quotas...

50% male cabin crew
50% male check in staff
50% female engineers
50% female ramp staff
50% plumbers
50% board members

Just see how long that lasts.
When I worked in the QF call centre in Auckland there would have been 70% females.
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Old 31st Oct 2022, 04:29
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Hang on, this has nothing to do with quotas. It is about being able to do your job as a FCM and not be treated like a piece of sh!t.

Any pilot should be able to go to work and not wonder how much crap they are going to get from the FCM or in the crew room.


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Old 31st Oct 2022, 04:33
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Tricky, so you ask a colleague out and he/she says no. When you then have them in the sim does that mean you can’t grade them badly for fear of perception that you are being unfair? It will be hard to link a poor grade to previous sexual advances.
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Old 31st Oct 2022, 05:17
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Yeah, I think I am going to remain schtum about my thoughts on this particular subject.
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Like many people, I’m all for the right person doing the right job.

Quotas however are demonstrably flawed.

It starts as 50:50 Male:Female.

It then becomes Male:Femalether

You then have to define Other in a way that keeps everyone in that category satisfied. Gender fluid? Non binary? (Other options likely considerable).

But let’s say 50:50 Male:Female keeps the vast majority of quota hunters happy.

We have to move on and realise that, hang on, after we have our perfect 50:50… we actually don’t. Because diversity is itself…diverse.

Back to the drawing board when realizing that there is not a 50:50 split of sexualities. Or at least a split that covers all available sexuality “options” and assigns ratios to those that are acceptable to all.

Then religions.
Then skin.
Then hair.
Then left handed / right handed.

Of course, if 50:50 male:female is hypothetically desired, that itself can LIMIT female pilots in the sense that on a particular intake of 10 pilots there could be 6 suitable females, and one has to miss out because of a quota.

Plenty of other issues with quotas. I await the abusive DMs.
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23 years an FO, that normal?
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all gender discrimination claims should be dismissed - we can't define what a woman is anymore, and gender is fluid anyway.
She didn't claim gender discrimination- any gender can be sexually harrassed.

Interesting that all the other comments are people triggered by the term "Quota"-guess they need a safe space.
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She didn't claim gender discrimination- any gender can be sexually harrassed.
All 32 genders can be sexually harassed??
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All 32 genders can be sexually harassed??
Yep. Though when something is "fluid" it doesn't actually have a number of variations. How many petrols did you put in your car this week?
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Bring on the quotas...

50% male cabin crew
50% male check in staff
50% female engineers
50% female ramp staff
50% plumbers
50% board members

Just see how long that lasts.
There was a time when only males could become Cabon Managers, and a hew and cry when it was opened up to women.
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23 years an FO, that normal?
No, its not normal. In days gone by it would have meant goodbye, there is the door, and with good reason. I'd be grateful actually to still have a job.

But could you imagine someone mocking international womens day, horrific.



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Yep. Though when something is "fluid" it doesn't actually have a number of variations.
I'm just hoping parliament can keep up with all the gender definitions. It is clearly the most pressing issue in our western values subset. How you could make such a flippant remark about something as trivial as petrol proves that point. I put blend 792.3 in the car on Friday, proof there are at least 792.3 genders.
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No, it's not normal. In days gone by it would have meant goodbye, there is the door, and with good reason.
I thought as much, an acquaintance got the flick years ago for having a couple of goes, he certainly wasn't there for 23 years.
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No, its not normal. In days gone by it would have meant goodbye, there is the door, and with good reason. I'd be grateful actually to still have a job.

But could you imagine someone mocking international womens day, horrific.
TOTAL BS. QF has had many permanent FOS. It has also had times when it has taken 20+ years to get a command. Friends who joined in 02 after Ansett are just now getting commands- often only IF they are willing to change base, and some will turn it down to stay senior in base.

The facy that the moment anything to do with gender comes up, the BS merchants start up shows she probably has a point.
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She didn't claim gender discrimination- any gender can be sexually harrassed.
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A Qantas pilot who advocated for gender equality at the airline is now suing the company, claiming she was sexually harassed and discriminated against.
what was she alleging was the basis of the discrimination then?

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