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Old 16th Jul 2022, 07:28
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You are the baseline jet EBA. The absolute floor.
I thought that was Alliance?
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Old 16th Jul 2022, 07:48
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Originally Posted by drshmoo
Hahahaha one of the most delusional posts on Pprune ever!

Network is being used an industrial tool to lower the conditions of every Australian pilot. You are the baseline jet EBA. The absolute floor.



In saying that. It is in everyoneís interest in Australian aviation that Network get a significant pay rise with better terms and conditions. You deserve it.

The old QF IR mantra, we have a wage policy of 3%, is about to get a real testing (QF Engineers PIA) and will be hopefully thrown out with as much gusto as some recent toilet paper and eggs were thrown in Mosman.
Nothing delusional about it mate itís simply facts. Iím all for Network getting better T&Cís.
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Old 17th Jul 2022, 01:21
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This forum is a perfect example of what's wrong with the industry, pilots anonymously hating on hard working colleagues instead of supporting each other for the greater good and a brighter future together..
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Old 17th Jul 2022, 01:27
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Originally Posted by Busbitch
This forum is a perfect example of what's wrong with the industry, pilots anonymously hating on hard working colleagues instead of supporting each other for the greater good and a brighter future together..
Agreed mate. It starts off in GA and moves up the ranks with them. Sad state of affairs.
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Old 17th Jul 2022, 05:23
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Originally Posted by Busbitch
This forum is a perfect example of what's wrong with the industry, pilots anonymously hating on hard working colleagues instead of supporting each other for the greater good and a brighter future together..
And how management just laughs and laughs.
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Old 17th Jul 2022, 23:42
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I think he meant that what the manager said is typical of the caliber of management that we enjoy in this country. I didn’t read that he was accusing you if being that typical manager.

I could be wrong: I am on sick leave after all.
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Old 18th Jul 2022, 02:55
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Originally Posted by kimbobimbo
Manager? Ha! The only thing I manage is my sick leave mate.

You donít have to be in a meeting to hear about what happens in meeting friend!
I'm with Active....confused as previously Kimbo stated:

He said so in various meetings.
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Old 19th Jul 2022, 11:33
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Originally Posted by AviatoR21
When things were grim during the pandemic every group pilot applied to Network happy to accept the terms. Why no backlash then?

Network has provided plenty of opportunities for its pilots and a much quicker upgrade than any other group airline.

Sure the EBA isnít the best, but now times are good they definitely have a good argument to fight for more.
Woopty doo. Imagine being an a320 NAA skipper sitting on your bay in Perth only to look left to see a FO in a plane without the word "Link" on the side of their plane earning more than you. Some command.

Do their FO's know bus and train drivers can earn almost their wage but don't put up with all the BS professional pilots do on a daily basis?
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Old 19th Jul 2022, 11:44
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Originally Posted by kimbobimbo
Youíre totally off the money there friend. They donít work their day off for 160, they work their day off and still get it later on (within 7 days). Now it just so happens that most stoopid pilots just forgo their industrial right and take that day owed as a day in leu, which they never get backÖ not the way the ea was agreed too but the company loves it especially RH (RIP).

So really we agree, pilots are stoopid, but the EA isnít as bad as you make it out. If they were smart theyíd use the EA to their advantage and get on the IPD train, just need to insist on it being rerostered within 7 days as the EA says.

I am constantly disappointed in my colleagues lack of understanding of their industrial rights. The peeps I work with donít even know their own EBA, itís no wonder we have such a terrible rep. Pull you socks up kids, read you EA and stand up for yourself. Unless of course thereís a giant, KY smothered pole in front of you. In which case fill your slippery boots! Iíll enjoy watching the antics haha!
They don't get $160 for a day off? You're right. They get like double that... $320-ish, don't they? Why would you bother getting out of bed at 3am for that?
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Old 19th Jul 2022, 23:17
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You're right. They get like double that... $320-ish, don't they? Why would you bother getting out of bed at 3am for that?
Someone please tell me when we've reached peak 'like'. It's now snuck into written word.

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Old 19th Jul 2022, 23:24
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Back to topicÖ.is the CP back or still MIA? Starting to sound much ďlikeĒ a removal from office (again).
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Old 19th Jul 2022, 23:54
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Originally Posted by ActiveLooker
Back to topicÖ.is the CP back or still MIA? Starting to sound much ďlikeĒ a removal from office (again).
still MIA presumed KIA
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Old 20th Jul 2022, 00:26
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Originally Posted by Jc31
still MIA presumed KIA
what, no farewell party?? I suppose itís hard to find phone boxes these days.
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Old 20th Jul 2022, 00:32
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Seriously wtaf is wrong with you people? If not getting your EA where you want it, or not getting paid enough - move on, nobody is holding a gun to your head. Itís free to be kind, just try that at the very least.
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Old 20th Jul 2022, 01:53
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Originally Posted by ActiveLooker
Back to topicÖ.is the CP back or still MIA? Starting to sound much ďlikeĒ a removal from office (again).
Allegedly sighted in Sydney a couple of days ago. Not sure if that was at HQ or at Luna Park but thatís the closest thing we have to proof of life.
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Old 20th Jul 2022, 04:12
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Originally Posted by ShandywithSugar
Like back to the B737 from where the majority of Networks work is from?.
was bae146 work with njs before the 737. These routes werenít created for the qf 737
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Old 20th Jul 2022, 04:22
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Originally Posted by Chronic Snoozer
Some please tell me when we've reached peak 'like'. It's now snuck into written word.
Thats Gold!!! Ten out of Ten👍👍
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Old 20th Jul 2022, 07:40
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Originally Posted by Chronic Snoozer
Some please tell me when we've reached peak 'like'. It's now snuck into written word.
Are you like... triggered?
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Old 20th Jul 2022, 07:40
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Originally Posted by Jc31
was bae146 work with njs before the 737. These routes werenít created for the qf 737
Agreed. The original reply to my comment about Networkís operation being difficult to replace was pretty pass agg, and the kind of sentiment that would align with managementís divide and conquer wet dream. That said I didnít bite because I am very interested in weaknessís that leave us open to bad agreements and I was hoping to get more discussion going on the subject.

I am quite interested in getting something done about mobilising people towards a better agreement. This forum could be quite useful for that, but the infighting basically kills it. If we (qantas group employees anyway) could all remember that the enemy lives (10% of the time at any rate) in a toilet paper covered Mosman mansion rather than the flight deck of an affiliate airline we might actually manage that.
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Old 20th Jul 2022, 08:19
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Originally Posted by onezeroonethree
Woopty doo. Imagine being an a320 NAA skipper sitting on your bay in Perth only to look left to see a FO in a plane without the word "Link" on the side of their plane earning more than you. Some command.
Thatís very interesting. Iím sure itís available somewhere but Iím lazyÖ.whatís the base salary for a first year Network A320 Captain versus the base salary for a first year QF 737 F/O?. Not interested in overtime or anything, just base salaryÖ cheers
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