Network Aviation Revolving Door

[Icarus2001]

You are the baseline jet EBA. The absolute floor.

I thought that was Alliance?

[AviatoR21]

Originally Posted by drshmoo

Hahahaha one of the most delusional posts on Pprune ever!

Network is being used an industrial tool to lower the conditions of every Australian pilot. You are the baseline jet EBA. The absolute floor.



In saying that. It is in everyone’s interest in Australian aviation that Network get a significant pay rise with better terms and conditions. You deserve it.

The old QF IR mantra, we have a wage policy of 3%, is about to get a real testing (QF Engineers PIA) and will be hopefully thrown out with as much gusto as some recent toilet paper and eggs were thrown in Mosman.

Nothing delusional about it mate it’s simply facts. I’m all for Network getting better T&C’s.

[Busbitch]

This forum is a perfect example of what's wrong with the industry, pilots anonymously hating on hard working colleagues instead of supporting each other for the greater good and a brighter future together..

[Servo]

Originally Posted by Busbitch

This forum is a perfect example of what's wrong with the industry, pilots anonymously hating on hard working colleagues instead of supporting each other for the greater good and a brighter future together..

Agreed mate. It starts off in GA and moves up the ranks with them. Sad state of affairs.

[twentyelevens]

Originally Posted by Busbitch

This forum is a perfect example of what's wrong with the industry, pilots anonymously hating on hard working colleagues instead of supporting each other for the greater good and a brighter future together..

And how management just laughs and laughs.

[Australopithecus]

I think he meant that what the manager said is typical of the caliber of management that we enjoy in this country. I didn’t read that he was accusing you if being that typical manager.

I could be wrong: I am on sick leave after all.

[Jack D. Ripper]

Originally Posted by kimbobimbo

Manager? Ha! The only thing I manage is my sick leave mate.

You don’t have to be in a meeting to hear about what happens in meeting friend!

I'm with Active....confused as previously Kimbo stated:

He said so in various meetings.

[onezeroonethree]

Originally Posted by AviatoR21

When things were grim during the pandemic every group pilot applied to Network happy to accept the terms. Why no backlash then?

Network has provided plenty of opportunities for its pilots and a much quicker upgrade than any other group airline.

Sure the EBA isn’t the best, but now times are good they definitely have a good argument to fight for more.

Woopty doo. Imagine being an a320 NAA skipper sitting on your bay in Perth only to look left to see a FO in a plane without the word "Link" on the side of their plane earning more than you. Some command.

Do their FO's know bus and train drivers can earn almost their wage but don't put up with all the BS professional pilots do on a daily basis?

[onezeroonethree]

Originally Posted by kimbobimbo

You’re totally off the money there friend. They don’t work their day off for 160, they work their day off and still get it later on (within 7 days). Now it just so happens that most stoopid pilots just forgo their industrial right and take that day owed as a day in leu, which they never get back… not the way the ea was agreed too but the company loves it especially RH (RIP).

So really we agree, pilots are stoopid, but the EA isn’t as bad as you make it out. If they were smart they’d use the EA to their advantage and get on the IPD train, just need to insist on it being rerostered within 7 days as the EA says.

I am constantly disappointed in my colleagues lack of understanding of their industrial rights. The peeps I work with don’t even know their own EBA, it’s no wonder we have such a terrible rep. Pull you socks up kids, read you EA and stand up for yourself. Unless of course there’s a giant, KY smothered pole in front of you. In which case fill your slippery boots! I’ll enjoy watching the antics haha!

They don't get $160 for a day off? You're right. They get like double that... $320-ish, don't they? Why would you bother getting out of bed at 3am for that?

[Chronic Snoozer]

You're right. They get like double that... $320-ish, don't they? Why would you bother getting out of bed at 3am for that?

Someone please tell me when we've reached peak 'like'. It's now snuck into written word.

[ActiveLooker]

Back to topic….is the CP back or still MIA? Starting to sound much “like” a removal from office (again).

[Jc31]

Originally Posted by ActiveLooker

Back to topic….is the CP back or still MIA? Starting to sound much “like” a removal from office (again).

still MIA presumed KIA

[ActiveLooker]

Originally Posted by Jc31

still MIA presumed KIA

what, no farewell party?? I suppose it’s hard to find phone boxes these days.

[FN4567]

Seriously wtaf is wrong with you people? If not getting your EA where you want it, or not getting paid enough - move on, nobody is holding a gun to your head. It’s free to be kind, just try that at the very least.

[walesregent]

Originally Posted by ActiveLooker

Back to topic….is the CP back or still MIA? Starting to sound much “like” a removal from office (again).

Allegedly sighted in Sydney a couple of days ago. Not sure if that was at HQ or at Luna Park but that’s the closest thing we have to proof of life.

[Jc31]

Originally Posted by ShandywithSugar

Like back to the B737 from where the majority of Networks work is from?.

was bae146 work with njs before the 737. These routes weren’t created for the qf 737

[SOPS]

Originally Posted by Chronic Snoozer

Some please tell me when we've reached peak 'like'. It's now snuck into written word.

Thats Gold!!! Ten out of Ten👍👍

[onezeroonethree]

Originally Posted by Chronic Snoozer

Some please tell me when we've reached peak 'like'. It's now snuck into written word.

Are you like... triggered?

[walesregent]

Originally Posted by Jc31

was bae146 work with njs before the 737. These routes weren’t created for the qf 737

Agreed. The original reply to my comment about Network’s operation being difficult to replace was pretty pass agg, and the kind of sentiment that would align with management’s divide and conquer wet dream. That said I didn’t bite because I am very interested in weakness’s that leave us open to bad agreements and I was hoping to get more discussion going on the subject.

I am quite interested in getting something done about mobilising people towards a better agreement. This forum could be quite useful for that, but the infighting basically kills it. If we (qantas group employees anyway) could all remember that the enemy lives (10% of the time at any rate) in a toilet paper covered Mosman mansion rather than the flight deck of an affiliate airline we might actually manage that.

[Jester64]

Originally Posted by onezeroonethree

Woopty doo. Imagine being an a320 NAA skipper sitting on your bay in Perth only to look left to see a FO in a plane without the word "Link" on the side of their plane earning more than you. Some command.

That’s very interesting. I’m sure it’s available somewhere but I’m lazy….what’s the base salary for a first year Network A320 Captain versus the base salary for a first year QF 737 F/O?. Not interested in overtime or anything, just base salary… cheers