Virgin Australia - Phoenix Rising from the Ashes?

[LostWanderer]

Originally Posted by slice

CNS - HND 7:45 block and HND - CNS 7:30 (redeye) in a Max. My arse hurts just thinking about it.

Wonder how JQ/QF will respond. If I were a gambler I would bet this doesn't last long.

[UnderneathTheRadar]

Originally Posted by galdian

I'd assume primarily to retain possession of the landing rights, an "asset" no doubt in any future flogging off of VA to an adoring and financially astute public.

ding ding ding - we have a winner....

Anyone crazy enough to book onto that flight is a bonus - just fill it with fuel and freight....

[PoppaJo]

They won’t have issues filling seats. You’re looking at 2-3k over the next few months and that is via Manila, Hong Kong or Taipei. My son wanted to go and it was cheaper to fly United via Los Angeles. Qantas are after $5-6k in the next few months for economy.

[DanV2]

Originally Posted by LostWanderer

Wonder how JQ/QF will respond. If I were a gambler I would bet this doesn't last long.

VA's CNS-HND flight is 'proudly' supported by the Queensland Government's Attracting Aviation Investment Fund (AAIF) in partnership with Cairns Airport. Same subsidy arrangments as UA's BNE-SFO and QF's BNE-HND flight to name two examples.

They'll last as long as their Queensland Government AAIF contract dictates. Whether VA/NH operates beyond that contract is unknown.

[puff]

CNS-HND won't even be in the top 5 longest Max flights in the world when it starts.

[turbantime]

Originally Posted by puff

CNS-HND won't even be in the top 5 longest Max flights in the world when it starts.

Fourth longest according to this site:
https://simpleflying.com/virgin-aust...-tokyo-haneda/

[snakeslugger]

Good luck but I think that length of time in a 737 would be hideous. Pains me to say it, but I’d go Jetstar on that trip length.

[Lookleft]

Pains me to say it, but I’d go Jetstar on that trip length.

Careful what you wish for. Jetstar will be doing that in an A321 soon enough. If it wasn't for Covid they would already be doing it.

[Colonel_Klink]

Originally Posted by Lookleft

Careful what you wish for. Jetstar will be doing that in an A321 soon enough. If it wasn't for Covid they would already be doing it.

Yup - with the Airbus NEOs and Boeing Max aircraft, 6-8 hour flights in narrow body aircraft will become more and more common 😔

[PoppaJo]

You think the MAX is bad wait until the Star drops the NEO on the run next year. 28' Pitch, 235 bodies, 8 hours...ohhhh and the rock hard Recaro seats with no headrest. TORTURE. Ohhhhhh but hold on its got a fancy USB port and mood lighting!

[tiger-palm]

Anyone know if VA plan to re-start trans- Tasman flights to AKL, CHC and WLG.

The more competition the better for the consumer.

The legacy airlines have been milking the life out of the tit for too long now.

[Colonel_Klink]

Originally Posted by tiger-palm

Anyone know if VA plan to re-start trans- Tasman flights to AKL, CHC and WLG.

The more competition the better for the consumer.

The legacy airlines have been milking the life out of the tit for too long now.

In all of the town-halls, the CEO was always saying that the Japan slots were important for the business / that they would have to say something about the slots in the future / etc etc.

This is important when comparing what she has said about the NZ markets you mention - she has been explicitly clear that Tasman has always been a blood bath, that making money is extremely tough, etc etc.

Given that VA seems to be constrained by airframes at the moment (the markets they are introducing next year are when more aircraft arrive) I think it’s highly unlikely that Virgin will use airframes on AKL/CHC/WLG when they can be better utilised and more profitable elsewhere.

[SHVC]

Well, the final touches of lipstick were applied JH and Co doing the IPO rounds to drum up some keen investors. Now and other hurdle due Too much instability in the financial world due to the fall of Credit Suisse.

[DanV2]

Back to the future. NZ and VA applies for Trans-Tasman partnership (positioning when the current NZ/QF domestic codeshare agreement expires).
The proposed agreement does not extend beyond the Trans-Tasman (at this stage).

https://www.executivetraveller.com/n...nd-partnership

[Superman1]

Originally Posted by DanV2

The proposed agreement does not extend beyond the Trans-Tasman (at this stage).

https://www.executivetraveller.com/n...nd-partnership

Sounds like another half baked Alliance for VA…just to make their program a little bit more amateur and piece meal.