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Far out déjà vu, take a joke mate.
Clearly the post must have been written about you
It’s 2021, not 1985.
Clearice, funny as mate. I enjoyed that. I’ve sat in both seats and can attest that those types of people do exist in both seats, but the way you wrote it topped it
Clearly the post must have been written about you
It’s 2021, not 1985.
Clearice, funny as mate. I enjoyed that. I’ve sat in both seats and can attest that those types of people do exist in both seats, but the way you wrote it topped it
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Morno can you ring the regulator and tell 'em it's 2021 ? - I don't think they have caught up with changing the legislation !
PIC responsible for the safety of flight regardless of who is manipulating the controls.
PIC responsible for the safety of flight regardless of who is manipulating the controls.
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Originally Posted by deja vu
clearice- If and when you ever get a command you will certainly be surprised to learn there are just as many arseholes in the right seat as there are in the left. You would think it doesn't matter since you are "in command" but believe me a smart arse, sycophantic, competitive know all ruins what should be a good day out or in some cases a 4 day trip out.
For the last 15 years of my career I was more intent in finding out who I was flying with rather than where I was going when the roster was published.
I would fly with these guys just after they were released to line, timid and unsure but 6 months later they thought they had it all worked out. Reminds me of my kids when they got to 16 and knew everything. As they progressed these smarties came up for command, many failed and of those who passed some turned to be complete tossers, according to the junior FOs who had to fly with them.
In your case clearice, how weak is it to just accept the Captain's fuel decision and not state your case for a different figure if you think it matters. And yeah, keep up, but I imagine swanning through the terminal in full braided uniform ticks your boxes. He thinks there is crosswind from the left but you know its from the right but you don't say anything. Busy counting centreline lights and almost forgetting to monitor and call V1, you have an unhealthy obsession to collect demerit points as a priority it would seem. And the idea of a shoulder harness is to prevent hitting the windshield/window, get with the program. Remarks about Darwin and how "part" of you want things to grow into an incident tell us more about you than anything else. An F for CRM for you my lad.
Did it ever occur to you to confront this guy, you know, face to face?, discuss what worries you, maybe it could be worked out, rather than using the anonymity of this Forum or the mob think of your contemporaries who reckon your post was brilliant. I think you owe the travelling public more than you are giving.
And what on earth ever made you think that a sector is yours, no such thing. If a Captain is kind enough to allow you to operate and manage HIS aircraft for a leg or two, be grateful and respectful.
For the last 15 years of my career I was more intent in finding out who I was flying with rather than where I was going when the roster was published.
I would fly with these guys just after they were released to line, timid and unsure but 6 months later they thought they had it all worked out. Reminds me of my kids when they got to 16 and knew everything. As they progressed these smarties came up for command, many failed and of those who passed some turned to be complete tossers, according to the junior FOs who had to fly with them.
In your case clearice, how weak is it to just accept the Captain's fuel decision and not state your case for a different figure if you think it matters. And yeah, keep up, but I imagine swanning through the terminal in full braided uniform ticks your boxes. He thinks there is crosswind from the left but you know its from the right but you don't say anything. Busy counting centreline lights and almost forgetting to monitor and call V1, you have an unhealthy obsession to collect demerit points as a priority it would seem. And the idea of a shoulder harness is to prevent hitting the windshield/window, get with the program. Remarks about Darwin and how "part" of you want things to grow into an incident tell us more about you than anything else. An F for CRM for you my lad.
Did it ever occur to you to confront this guy, you know, face to face?, discuss what worries you, maybe it could be worked out, rather than using the anonymity of this Forum or the mob think of your contemporaries who reckon your post was brilliant. I think you owe the travelling public more than you are giving.
And what on earth ever made you think that a sector is yours, no such thing. If a Captain is kind enough to allow you to operate and manage HIS aircraft for a leg or two, be grateful and respectful.
it's that SkyGod, mentality that people can't stand and is more unsafe than any 'arrogant FO'. Learn to take a joke mate, jesus.
I'm left seat too and I thought it was a brilliant post.
Originally Posted by novice110
Morno can you ring the regulator and tell 'em it's 2021 ? - I don't think they have caught up with changing the legislation !
PIC responsible for the safety of flight regardless of who is manipulating the controls.
PIC responsible for the safety of flight regardless of who is manipulating the controls.
.Take a chill pill. It's still possible to be the Captain and actually work with your F/O.
Not hard to tell who the Captains are that match the description in Clearice's post.
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Oh good lord, what a gift this whole thread is.
You give some people custody over a big shiny company asset for a bit and they promptly believe they are the reason the sun rose in the morning. Bunch of self important idiots.
As for the op; put in the work, and you'll have a rewarding career. Ignore the tossers on display on this forum. Aviation is filled with great people, and most of them have better stuff to do than lurkinh around here.
Good luck
You give some people custody over a big shiny company asset for a bit and they promptly believe they are the reason the sun rose in the morning. Bunch of self important idiots.
As for the op; put in the work, and you'll have a rewarding career. Ignore the tossers on display on this forum. Aviation is filled with great people, and most of them have better stuff to do than lurkinh around here.
Good luck
Aviation is filled with great people, and most of them have better stuff to do than lurkinh around here.
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Originally Posted by Lookleft
Wasn't the legend from QF32 going to rewrite it? With the "big jets" all grounded the new version should be "Flying the Light Twin".
Haha wow I didn't think my light hearted, insomnia produced post (at 3am) to lighten the mood around here would trigger a few individuals . 😅
Im going to assume that you are doing the same back because if you are not then... It says alot more about you then it does about me. While I am an FO now, you assume I've never had a command before. The roster checking absolutely goes both ways but usually for different reasons.
Anyway, I'll see you at the next launch sir. I'll be there about 3 minutes before sign on with my coffee and no, I haven't read the wx and NOTAMs at home.
Im going to assume that you are doing the same back because if you are not then... It says alot more about you then it does about me. While I am an FO now, you assume I've never had a command before. The roster checking absolutely goes both ways but usually for different reasons.
Anyway, I'll see you at the next launch sir. I'll be there about 3 minutes before sign on with my coffee and no, I haven't read the wx and NOTAMs at home.
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Originally Posted by cLeArIcE
Haha wow I didn't think my light hearted, insomnia produced post (at 3am) to lighten the mood around here would trigger a few individuals . 😅
Im going to assume that you are doing the same back because if you are not then... It says alot more about you then it does about me. While I am an FO now, you assume I've never had a command before. The roster checking absolutely goes both ways but usually for different reasons.
Anyway, I'll see you at the next launch sir. I'll be there about 3 minutes before sign on with my coffee and no, I haven't read the wx and NOTAMs at home.
Im going to assume that you are doing the same back because if you are not then... It says alot more about you then it does about me. While I am an FO now, you assume I've never had a command before. The roster checking absolutely goes both ways but usually for different reasons.
Anyway, I'll see you at the next launch sir. I'll be there about 3 minutes before sign on with my coffee and no, I haven't read the wx and NOTAMs at home.
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Wasn't the legend from QF32 going to rewrite it? With the "big jets" all grounded the new version should be "Flying the Light Twin".
Back to Petra's issue (apart from the being female, Croatian having a Batchelor of Aviation and Business etc, etc) forget the courses, I agree with others about the money. There's no 'right' path - and it certainly isn't easy. There are (especially now) far, far, FAR easier ways to make a lot more money than any pilot will earn, particularly after this unmitigated disaster has been fully used to attack crew awards. This book shows an interesting path that many here would be very familiar with. I would suggest it to anyone - especially starting out it points out a lot good stuff along with there being no 'right' way.
https://www.amazon.com.au/Flying-Kni.../dp/B00XJYYL90
Clearice - Thanks for the wonderful summary! One glaring omission I'd like to make special mention of. The term 'on guard'
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Originally Posted by Lookleft
So does that mean if you are "lurkinh around here" that you are not one of aviation's great people?
That's why I wrote "most of them". Some truly great folk are contributing with their knowledge, experience or great sense of humour and that's what keeps me coming back (mostly lurking I might add...)
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Wasn't the legend from QF32 going to rewrite it?
