Qantas Second Officer Jobs
“Jet Orientation course” ... WTF is that?
Never heard of that let alone completed an “orientation course”
”this is the nose of the airplane, this is the wing, here are the motors - they make big noises”
Never heard of that let alone completed an “orientation course”
”this is the nose of the airplane, this is the wing, here are the motors - they make big noises”
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Originally Posted by Double_Clutch
“Jet Orientation course” ... WTF is that?
“This is last break - you don’t get that”
”This is my nutso scheme to make money by combining Bitcoin with ostrich farms - you listen to that without smirking”
The short answer is that there will be no Qantas opportunities for the foreseeable future, that much is obvious even to yourself Im sure.
If history is anything to go by then when things do pick up again in the years ahead it will be on a greater scale than most would have expected. The best thing you can do is seperate yourself from the hundreds of other 200hr pilots that have graduated over the prior few years.
For that you need actual flying experience, and thats where your effort should be focused for now.
If the day arrives that doing some dubious course makes you competitive then I'm sure it won't involve more that a couple of days off work to get done.
What is certain is that a couple of thousand hours between now and then will help you reach your goal.
If history is anything to go by then when things do pick up again in the years ahead it will be on a greater scale than most would have expected. The best thing you can do is seperate yourself from the hundreds of other 200hr pilots that have graduated over the prior few years.
For that you need actual flying experience, and thats where your effort should be focused for now.
If the day arrives that doing some dubious course makes you competitive then I'm sure it won't involve more that a couple of days off work to get done.
What is certain is that a couple of thousand hours between now and then will help you reach your goal.
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I cant believe all you people took it so seriously; It’s obviously a joke.
Though, I wish people would stop using the term ‘MECIR’. There is no such thing!
‘The term ‘command’ was used to differentiate it from a ‘co-pilot instrument rating’.
With Part 61, there is no more co-pilot instrument rating.
Does the troll mean an IR with a MEA endorsement?
Its written as: IR MEA IAP2D IAP3D if the person also has a 3D endorsement on their IR.
You’re welcome.
Though, I wish people would stop using the term ‘MECIR’. There is no such thing!
‘The term ‘command’ was used to differentiate it from a ‘co-pilot instrument rating’.
With Part 61, there is no more co-pilot instrument rating.
Does the troll mean an IR with a MEA endorsement?
Its written as: IR MEA IAP2D IAP3D if the person also has a 3D endorsement on their IR.
You’re welcome.
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Originally Posted by petra.oskertrich1995
Hey Everyone,
I am seeking knowledge and experience from anyone familiar with the Qantas Second Officer role and when it is likely to be offered again? I am a recent graduate at a flying school here in Melbourne with just under 200 hours (CPL, MECIR, all ATPLS) and looking at Qantas as my dream career when things return to normal soon. Does anyone have any advice on the position?
I have also enrolled in a Multi Crew Co-operation and Jet Orientation course, hoping this will help.
Thank you!!!
I am seeking knowledge and experience from anyone familiar with the Qantas Second Officer role and when it is likely to be offered again? I am a recent graduate at a flying school here in Melbourne with just under 200 hours (CPL, MECIR, all ATPLS) and looking at Qantas as my dream career when things return to normal soon. Does anyone have any advice on the position?
I have also enrolled in a Multi Crew Co-operation and Jet Orientation course, hoping this will help.
Thank you!!!
No airline will be hiring for at least the next 7 years and it’ll be usually be in the following order
- Furloughed Staff
- Experienced Jet Turbine pilots with type rating
- Experienced Jet Turbine pilots without type rating
- Experienced twin Turbo-prop pilots
- Experienced twin piston pilots
Qantas mainline stopped recruiting in 2008 and didn’t start rehiring till about 2017 so maybe keep other options open
My advice to you is to get some twin and IF time behind you as well as an instructor rating, work your way up and when airlines around the world are trying to suck up as much pilots as possible then you’ll be in a more mature and experienced mindset to get the position
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You are going to have to do what we all did 40 years ago.
Get what ever job you can in GA , in PNG or flying for some mining company AND GET SOME EXPERIENCE.
Cadetship schemes like to get pupils who anti up the cash to think that they are employable. You’re not.
When QF stops recruiting you are screwed.
Spend the next couple of years learning to fly and remember to enjoy it.
I wish at the time I had appreciated how much fun I was having.
Get what ever job you can in GA , in PNG or flying for some mining company AND GET SOME EXPERIENCE.
Cadetship schemes like to get pupils who anti up the cash to think that they are employable. You’re not.
When QF stops recruiting you are screwed.
Spend the next couple of years learning to fly and remember to enjoy it.
I wish at the time I had appreciated how much fun I was having.
If indeed you are not a troll my advice is to get a degree in something useful, IT, Law, Medicine etc, by the time you finish said degree you'll have an idea as to wether the "this has happened before, it'll recover in 2 years" brigade are right (I suspect not as this is completely unprecedented, 60% of pilots are unemployed and as someone pointed out, QF didn't hire for some 10 years when things weren't anywhere near as bad)
Good luck, you're going to need a healthy dose of it
Good luck, you're going to need a healthy dose of it
Originally Posted by Middle.Marker
100% a troll
Way too much time on your hands, Petra, you crazy dude.
(Can you really have a CPL and a MECIR with less than 200hrs now?
That's some messed up shiz right there!!)
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Does a Jet Orienteering Course count?
You know the one, where you get halfway round the early morning walkaround and forget what you’re supposed to be looking for/at/what aircraft type is this.
Cos I’ve never done one.
j3
You know the one, where you get halfway round the early morning walkaround and forget what you’re supposed to be looking for/at/what aircraft type is this.
Cos I’ve never done one.
j3
I'm bored too, but not as bored as to suppose anyone would actually write ".....looking at Qantas as my dream career" on here, and expect to be taken seriously.
I'm gonna to have to give you a '2' for SA there buddy.
I'm gonna to have to give you a '2' for SA there buddy.
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Originally Posted by Come in spinner
Troll or not who cares. Good on those being positive and or constructive
The good news for the OP (troll or not) is the loudmouth heros on here aren’t actually representative of the industry as a whole.
Originally Posted by pinkpanther1
Wow, what a great bunch of people here. Someone new to the industry is very politely trying to get the ins and outs and looking for a bit of advice and that's the reaction they get?
Here's what you need to know mate. The industry is going to take a long long time to recover. Any future growth and flight crew requirements are going to be filled by a) stood down crew returning to work b) experienced Jet pilots from Virgin/Tiger/Cathay/Emirates and any other airlines that have given redundancies C) those already on hold files for Qantas (coming from internal transfers from Qantaslink/Jetstar) and D) Qantas Cadets at the affiliated FTA QFPP schools.
The reality is you're probably not going to get into Qantas as a second officer anytime soon. What you need to do is build up your hours. Get a job up north with one of the small operations (Chartair etc) work up a bit of multi time, get into a multi crew regional job and then go from there.
It's a tough gig at the moment and you have to be realistic. I know plenty of ex Virgin 777 pilots that are up North doing exactly that.
Good Luck with it all, we've all done it.
.....oh and ignore the types of people that are in this thread. Aviation is a great career but it's filled with toxic people who think the bigger/faster/heavier/newer their aircraft is, the more entitled they are to behave like a##holes.
Here's what you need to know mate. The industry is going to take a long long time to recover. Any future growth and flight crew requirements are going to be filled by a) stood down crew returning to work b) experienced Jet pilots from Virgin/Tiger/Cathay/Emirates and any other airlines that have given redundancies C) those already on hold files for Qantas (coming from internal transfers from Qantaslink/Jetstar) and D) Qantas Cadets at the affiliated FTA QFPP schools.
The reality is you're probably not going to get into Qantas as a second officer anytime soon. What you need to do is build up your hours. Get a job up north with one of the small operations (Chartair etc) work up a bit of multi time, get into a multi crew regional job and then go from there.
It's a tough gig at the moment and you have to be realistic. I know plenty of ex Virgin 777 pilots that are up North doing exactly that.
Good Luck with it all, we've all done it.
.....oh and ignore the types of people that are in this thread. Aviation is a great career but it's filled with toxic people who think the bigger/faster/heavier/newer their aircraft is, the more entitled they are to behave like a##holes.
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No airline will be hiring for at least the next 7 years.
- Don't take relationship advice from this person
- Definitely don't take career advice from this person
- Do not take ANY advice from this person
Clueless and wrong.
Jesus, Mc, you and 380 have some history or what!?
Fine.
But why are you self-righteousnessly feeding a Troll?
Imparting your hard-gotten worldly wisdom, for what would stand as a knock-knock joke?
(oh, plus, this forum is not for jobseekers or advice...that's GA &Questions)
Fine.
But why are you self-righteousnessly feeding a Troll?
Imparting your hard-gotten worldly wisdom, for what would stand as a knock-knock joke?
(oh, plus, this forum is not for jobseekers or advice...that's GA &Questions)
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Do we? To be honest mate, I didn't read who wrote the comment, didn't need to. I can name a few airlines recruiting now, can't keep up with the training load. That the thread is a troll, I don't give a rats about, it's the narrative that's the real message. Mate, if anyone, I'm 'entitled' to reply to the thread the way most have, the jet job I lost ain't coming back, guaranteed. And I'm not of the age that will see me employed by another. But the fact is 'This Too Shall Pass' despite all the petrified ninnies and non resilient babies in this world.
Fair enough, Mc.
But surely you see the intent of the Trollingl?
That a 200 hour pilot is quite willing to take your job.
He didn't want 'a' job out in the bush, he wants 'your' job.
That was Petra's wind-up.
Jesus, man!
But surely you see the intent of the Trollingl?
That a 200 hour pilot is quite willing to take your job.
He didn't want 'a' job out in the bush, he wants 'your' job.
That was Petra's wind-up.
Jesus, man!
