All borders to reopen.
Key word being voluntary. As for being responsible - I don’t interact with anyone I consider vulnerable. If I am displaying symptoms I would do as I’ve always done and stay home until no longer being symptomatic. The playbook is changing, even the government discourages unnecessary testing.
So if I don’t have any symptoms, I’m supposed to take a RAT everyday this year to make sure I don’t step out in public whilst being covid positive?
Airlines are cancelling thousands of flights due to staff shortages- making sure you aren't spreading it to work mates, causing ecconomic damage in the process, should be high in the mind of a supossed "get things going" advocate.
Ss pilots, we are supposed to be on a 7 day rolling test regime- not to much to ask.
Airlines are cancelling thousands of flights due to staff shortages- making sure you aren't spreading it to work mates, causing ecconomic damage in the process, should be high in the mind of a supossed "get things going" advocate.
Airlines are cancelling thousands of flights due to staff shortages- making sure you aren't spreading it to work mates, causing ecconomic damage in the process, should be high in the mind of a supossed "get things going" advocate.
You are entitled to your opinion on how others should behave, but based on the fallaciousness of your previous arguments, I don’t value them highly at all.
Based on your total lack of compassion for others, mutual.
You're happy to walk around asymptomatic and ignorant of it, infecting those around you. Now please point out where any of my reasoning was fallacious.
I am free to walk around asymptomatic as we all are, and have been doing our entire lives. Because I CHOOSE not to voluntarily RAT myself doesn’t mean I am ignorant to the fact I may infect others. I may infect them, as they have infected me. If I don’t infect them, the next person will. That’s where we are at on the eastern seaboard. Get with it mate. Everyone is going to get infected. With our high level of vaccination, we can now treat it like how we treated the flu. That’s the words of the PM. Did you test yourself for influenza when the flu was rife in Australia or wherever you were in the world prior to this pandemic, even though you were asymptomatic? Hell, I bet you didn’t even test yourself if you displayed symptoms. You probably just stayed home like I would have.
Dr Dre pointed it out very nicely.
I am free to walk around asymptomatic as we all are, and have been doing our entire lives. Because I CHOOSE not to voluntarily RAT myself doesn’t mean I am ignorant to the fact I may infect others. I may infect them, as they have infected me. If I don’t infect them, the next person will. That’s where we are at on the eastern seaboard. Get with it mate. Everyone is going to get infected. With our high level of vaccination, we can now treat it like how we treated the flu. That’s the words of the PM. Did you test yourself for influenza when the flu was rife in Australia or wherever you were in the world prior to this pandemic, even though you were asymptomatic? Hell, I bet you didn’t even test yourself if you displayed symptoms. You probably just stayed home like I would have.
I am free to walk around asymptomatic as we all are, and have been doing our entire lives. Because I CHOOSE not to voluntarily RAT myself doesn’t mean I am ignorant to the fact I may infect others. I may infect them, as they have infected me. If I don’t infect them, the next person will. That’s where we are at on the eastern seaboard. Get with it mate. Everyone is going to get infected. With our high level of vaccination, we can now treat it like how we treated the flu. That’s the words of the PM. Did you test yourself for influenza when the flu was rife in Australia or wherever you were in the world prior to this pandemic, even though you were asymptomatic? Hell, I bet you didn’t even test yourself if you displayed symptoms. You probably just stayed home like I would have.
Why test ? If your double vaccinated, healthy , no underlying health issues just stay home and follow health advice ? Why are we in a made panic to get a test ? It’s just using up resources and added costs . We all going to get it , do we need it confirmed ? It’s more of a mental health issue now than a physical problem . What if we turned off the news , social media for a week , calmed down and reset this would be a lot easier .
The purpose of opening the borders was to accept the virus and get on with it. So that is the mindset. That's the decision.
I agree that there is still a need to protect vulnerable people, I believe it is reasonable to be tested virus free prior to entering a hospital, a medical facility, an aged peoples home or any or vulnerable peoples facility, except entry via a dedicated facility covid entry point, where procedures are in place.
For anywhere else it's on us to decide if you want to risk being there, whatever that risk may be and whatever procedures you decide as a family in your own space.
I don't see the need for mandatory isolation or testing for any other reason, all that's going to do is nobble our businesses even further and for longer. I don't see the need for government controlled checkins and compliance requirements in public places other than what I have already stated.
I agree that there is still a need to protect vulnerable people, I believe it is reasonable to be tested virus free prior to entering a hospital, a medical facility, an aged peoples home or any or vulnerable peoples facility, except entry via a dedicated facility covid entry point, where procedures are in place.
For anywhere else it's on us to decide if you want to risk being there, whatever that risk may be and whatever procedures you decide as a family in your own space.
I don't see the need for mandatory isolation or testing for any other reason, all that's going to do is nobble our businesses even further and for longer. I don't see the need for government controlled checkins and compliance requirements in public places other than what I have already stated.
Going to be a struggle to even fly the way it’s going, I am watching crews dropping like flies at the moment. This coming fortnight is going to be tough. On the plus side it appears the public is staying away at the moment so hopefully not too many inconvenienced.
Melbourne/Sydney bases in trouble. Looks like at least 50 cancelled out of each tomorrow.
Melbourne/Sydney bases in trouble. Looks like at least 50 cancelled out of each tomorrow.
Going to be a struggle to even fly the way it’s going, I am watching crews dropping like flies at the moment. This coming fortnight is going to be tough. On the plus side it appears the public is staying away at the moment so hopefully not too many inconvenienced.
Melbourne/Sydney bases in trouble. Looks like at least 50 cancelled out of each tomorrow.
Melbourne/Sydney bases in trouble. Looks like at least 50 cancelled out of each tomorrow.
What we're seeing now is the effect on society if everyone had a full week off after a contagious illness, as they really should, to prevent passing it on. Have a think if people took a full 7 days off after every cold or illness they got in winter 2019 or before and how disrupted a business would be. Industries work their employers to the bone, and employ only the bare essential number. The best thing would be to increase sick leave and for companies to employ enough workers to cover those who are sick. But once this pandemic is over I think those phone calls pressuring workers to come to work while sick or return ASAP will resume.
short flights long nights
I have just come from our local supermarket here in Perth. The shelves are getting empty. Speaking to the owner ( it’s an iGA ), he said there are big supply problems from the Eastern States. I just saw the QLD Premier saying she is worried about keeping the lights on, water running and food on the shelves. NSW is changing isolation rules to try and keep food on the shelves. Flights are being cancelled because of lack of crew and/ or passengers ( I’m surprised about the lack of passengers, I kept hearing about how opening the borders will release a huge pent up demand… it seems sick people don’t like to travel.)
I am waiting to see how long it takes to affect fuel supplies.
Hospitals admissions continue to climb. ICU admissions continue an upward trend. Available health care workers continue a downward trend as more get sick.
I could continue…. So I just want to check. This was the plan, wasn’t it? Open up and all will be normal. That was the idea, was it not? Just checking.
I am waiting to see how long it takes to affect fuel supplies.
Hospitals admissions continue to climb. ICU admissions continue an upward trend. Available health care workers continue a downward trend as more get sick.
I could continue…. So I just want to check. This was the plan, wasn’t it? Open up and all will be normal. That was the idea, was it not? Just checking.
What I think that this pandemic is showing is how much all employers in all industries have relied on workers coming into work while sick. We've all done it, come in with just a "minor virus" or come back to work after a cold a day or two before we should have. Don't want to piss off the boss too much.
What we're seeing now is the effect on society if everyone had a full week off after a contagious illness, as they really should, to prevent passing it on. Have a think if people took a full 7 days off after every cold or illness they got in winter 2019 or before and how disrupted a business would be. Industries work their employers to the bone, and employ only the bare essential number. The best thing would be to increase sick leave and for companies to employ enough workers to cover those who are sick. But once this pandemic is over I think those phone calls pressuring workers to come to work while sick or return ASAP will resume.
What we're seeing now is the effect on society if everyone had a full week off after a contagious illness, as they really should, to prevent passing it on. Have a think if people took a full 7 days off after every cold or illness they got in winter 2019 or before and how disrupted a business would be. Industries work their employers to the bone, and employ only the bare essential number. The best thing would be to increase sick leave and for companies to employ enough workers to cover those who are sick. But once this pandemic is over I think those phone calls pressuring workers to come to work while sick or return ASAP will resume.
Their solution? They hired a third-party medical service, so if an employee called in sick, they would be transfered to a nurse.
Conversations went like this-
"Hi- I've got a cold, I need two days off sick".
"What do you do?"
"Flight attendent".
"Oh- well the guide-lines say that flightcrew need seven days off in the event of respitory infection, so I'll mark you sick for the week?"
"Err, yes- yes that would be fine...."
The system didn't last long....