All borders to reopen.
They don't publish the data anymore as highlighting it causes more instances and copycats. Back a number of years ago KHL was going through some issues of needing more funding but some sources were saying it had as much as 1 in 3 calls were hoaxes. Point that came out was while there are a lot of crank calls, 2/3rds or more of calls were serious and real, meaning they do provide an essential first point of call for real sufferers.
Again as I said earlier these lines provide an essential service, but going off call rates to them without actual confirmation data that all cases are real is difficult to relate. I can imagine the lockdowns also were conducive to a lot of bored kids and mental cases willing to flood these lines with mess for cheap kicks. With 000 the hoaxes are logged with severe penalties, yet they still occur at regular intervals, the data from Ambulance and Police attendance to a scene or event is well documented so reliable information to gather rates from.
You have to also remember that KHL 'Duty of care interventions' are just the information being passed onto Ambulance and Police for further investigation and possible attendance, then it will obviously be added to those services data.
Again as I said earlier these lines provide an essential service, but going off call rates to them without actual confirmation data that all cases are real is difficult to relate. I can imagine the lockdowns also were conducive to a lot of bored kids and mental cases willing to flood these lines with mess for cheap kicks. With 000 the hoaxes are logged with severe penalties, yet they still occur at regular intervals, the data from Ambulance and Police attendance to a scene or event is well documented so reliable information to gather rates from.
You have to also remember that KHL 'Duty of care interventions' are just the information being passed onto Ambulance and Police for further investigation and possible attendance, then it will obviously be added to those services data.
Biden- 500 million free RATs for the population
Boris- 2 per person for all each week
Morrison- MAYBE pensioners might get a subsidy if they are lucky. Everyone else, $$$
Boris- 2 per person for all each week
Morrison- MAYBE pensioners might get a subsidy if they are lucky. Everyone else, $$$
It would be frustrating to have got omnicron and not know due no test kit . I guess if people feel crook they could assume they have it and get info out on social media but it’s best to know for sure to avoid embarrassment of posting with just the flu .
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Speaking of apparent inconsistency in reporting (or tabulating statistics), am I the only one scratching his head wondering why Victoria has a daily "new case" rate approx. 1/3 that of NSW (4829 / 13944 - 7-day avg.) yet Victoria has a reported death rate double that of NSW (6 / 3 - 7-day avg.)
Perhaps the National Cabinet could consider implementing standardised reporting at their next meeting.
Perhaps the National Cabinet could consider implementing standardised reporting at their next meeting.
Based on fairly extensive experience in that service sector I know that "hoax" calls are vanishly rare. "Unwelcome calls", a category that includes hoax calls together with abusive calls, make up less than 3 percent of calls taken. That is pretty consistent across all services.
https://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/...c095cab2a59ad5
https://www.9news.com.au/national/tr...f-d764d333d6dc
For 000 pranks are up to about 10% of calls on average for emergency services and 30% on average are nuisance, non emergencies, accidental, hang-ups and butt dials etc.
Most of the helplines/prevention lines don't disclose rates of hoaxes anymore as they are funded on calls taken. Since the big blow up that happened 20 years ago in Victoria with KHL and such I'm pretty sure they keep the figures close to home. As I said earlier when it went to ask for further funding from the then Vic gov numbers as high as 1 in 3 nuisance calls was banded around. A lot of teens falsely reporting their mates for fun, pretending to be sick 5 year olds etc, they are out there. Maybe kids have grown up in the 2020s, less pranks and stupidity, sure sounds like it with 5 years olds contemplating suicide, I had no idea what being alive actually was at that age, let alone wanting to end it all.
Speaking of apparent inconsistency in reporting (or tabulating statistics), am I the only one scratching his head wondering why Victoria has a daily "new case" rate approx. 1/3 that of NSW (4829 / 13944 - 7-day avg.) yet Victoria has a reported death rate double that of NSW (6 / 3 - 7-day avg.)
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Got me, but that sort of data is just hard to find. And I'm not in the mood for some deep mining at the moment. I also noted that a lot of negative press from the KHL turmoils years ago have been removed from the net.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-11-...-call/10494444
https://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/...c095cab2a59ad5
https://www.9news.com.au/national/tr...f-d764d333d6dc
For 000 pranks are up to about 10% of calls on average for emergency services and 30% on average are nuisance, non emergencies, accidental, hang-ups and butt dials etc.
https://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/...c095cab2a59ad5
https://www.9news.com.au/national/tr...f-d764d333d6dc
For 000 pranks are up to about 10% of calls on average for emergency services and 30% on average are nuisance, non emergencies, accidental, hang-ups and butt dials etc.
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What?! You think that Kids Helpline have the chops to expunge records from the internet?!
Speaking of apparent inconsistency in reporting (or tabulating statistics), am I the only one scratching his head wondering why Victoria has a daily "new case" rate approx. 1/3 that of NSW (4829 / 13944 - 7-day avg.) yet Victoria has a reported death rate double that of NSW (6 / 3 - 7-day avg.)
Perhaps the National Cabinet could consider implementing standardised reporting at their next meeting.
Perhaps the National Cabinet could consider implementing standardised reporting at their next meeting.
Info released today indicated 74% of those in ICU in NSW are Delta, so there is still a bit of it around.
Up until a week or so ago I’d suggest most of the Victorian cases numbers were still from their Delta outbreak. That’s obviously flipped this week with their positive case rate catching NSW’s
Morrison is currently copping a charge of $120 per pcr test by the processing labs but he says he cant afford to provide rat tests. I would have thought the rats were a much cheaper alternative even at $50 for 5.
This is different. Scott said lockdown were a thing of the past. So the NT is having a “lockout” instead. If your not vaccinated you can’t leave home.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-01-...nner/100741026
Anyway you have not answered my previous question....What would YOU do about the WA border?
Now come on Big G, that is not quite correct. There are THREE reasons to leave home allowed, going to work is not one of them.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-01-...nner/100741026
Anyway you have not answered my previous question....What would YOU do about the WA border?
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-01-...nner/100741026
Anyway you have not answered my previous question....What would YOU do about the WA border?
Edit… for what it’s worth, Dr Andrew Miller from the AMA, is currently on the radio saying that opening the WA borders now is complete madness. But that’s only his opinion.
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Well, at the moment, looking at what is happening in the Eastern States, I would leave the border as it is. Mainly because I know the WA hospital system is already close to breaking point. ( and you are correct, there are three reasons to leave home in the NT, if your not vaccinated).
Edit… for what it’s worth, Dr Andrew Miller from the AMA, is currently on the radio saying that opening the WA borders now is complete madness. But that’s only his opinion.
Edit… for what it’s worth, Dr Andrew Miller from the AMA, is currently on the radio saying that opening the WA borders now is complete madness. But that’s only his opinion.
Thanks for the answer SOPS but the other question is when would you open?
If not Feb then when?
Difficult I know but ambulance ramping has been going in on WA for YEARS.
Perhaps a five billion dollar surplus is less important than a good hospital system?
If not Feb then when?
Difficult I know but ambulance ramping has been going in on WA for YEARS.
Perhaps a five billion dollar surplus is less important than a good hospital system?
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Well, at the moment, looking at what is happening in the Eastern States, I would leave the border as it is. Mainly because I know the WA hospital system is already close to breaking point. ( and you are correct, there are three reasons to leave home in the NT, if your not vaccinated).
Edit… for what it’s worth, Dr Andrew Miller from the AMA, is currently on the radio saying that opening the WA borders now is complete madness. But that’s only his opinion.
Edit… for what it’s worth, Dr Andrew Miller from the AMA, is currently on the radio saying that opening the WA borders now is complete madness. But that’s only his opinion.
The number of people on ventilators nation-wide is still not even in triple digits, and we have anywhere from 400,000 to 4,000,000 active cases (the true case count will never be known).
40 odd people die every day in WA. Covid may see this increase to 42 at maximum? just by looking at the current case fatality rate for Australia.
There is always going to be a whinge from AMA, as doctors and nurses might not be able to take leave when they want it, or may be forced into overtime in 2022. Sound familiar??
What exactly is happening over east? And don’t tell me case numbers because that’s irrelevant now. The number of ICU patients are actually less now than what they were months ago.
You know it would be interesting if every time the media mentioned the AMA they said it like this…..
“ The doctors official the union, the AMA says that….”
We as a pilot group need to learn a great deal from them.
“ The doctors official the union, the AMA says that….”
We as a pilot group need to learn a great deal from them.
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The AMA are a farce. They masquerade as ‘doctors who care’ but the reality is they represent their members, who stand to lose that mentioned above as well as MONEY when their elective surgeries are cancelled due to COVID patients. Typical Australian media. No facts, just click bait.
WA are going to get smashed. Depending on what happens here with timing etc. it’s feasible that the day WA opens, the rest of Australia locks them out. Now wouldnt that be a laugh.
WA are going to get smashed. Depending on what happens here with timing etc. it’s feasible that the day WA opens, the rest of Australia locks them out. Now wouldnt that be a laugh.
