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Old 18th Sep 2021, 22:31
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Originally Posted by dr dre
An effective government, a collectivist mindset which places the importance of a harmonious, well functioning society above any individual rights, and no politicians spreading anti vax messages in the media.

They’re just a smarter, more mature society than Australia is.
And don’t forget, they’re a police state - what the government says, goes. There is no free thought by the people. Normally that’s a **** way to live, but during a pandemic, it works!
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Old 18th Sep 2021, 23:02
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What sort of leader shuts down a public transport system to prevent people protesting?

I am embarrassed to live in a country that thinks this is okay.
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Old 18th Sep 2021, 23:38
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Originally Posted by Icarus2001
What sort of leader shuts down a public transport system to prevent people protesting?.
I know it’s a fine line Icarus, but they shut it down to prevent ‘spreading’ 1st, protesting 2nd😒😒
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Old 18th Sep 2021, 23:43
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That's democracy, you know. Trampling on peoples right to peacefully protest the Government decision that makes their protesting "illegal"...

All from the State whose CHO declared that "Never again, would we get over 300 cases a day - not on my watch!" - and remember, this being the person who is making these Public Health Orders that restrict gatherings, funerals, weddings....
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Old 19th Sep 2021, 00:22
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Who would have thought that in these modern times Australia, a once proud nation for equality would now be leaders in oppression, discrimination & abuse human rights all because of corrupt politicians with their un-elected stooges behind the scenes out of control about a flu virus that has a very high rate of recovery! Unbelievable!
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Old 19th Sep 2021, 03:09
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Originally Posted by DirectAnywhere
Word on the Vic “roadmap” is 90% vax for interstate travel.

Devastating if true as we’ll probability never get there. That’s not a roadmap but a dead end.

Might as well close down all tourism businesses now if that’s the case.
Heard on the radio retail will open up on 5th Nov that goes with interstate travel. That's according to the model still a bloody long way to go.
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Old 19th Sep 2021, 03:34
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Home run folks.

Like him or hate him. Vic has a plan.

What’s the plan up north and out west? That’s right. Sweet F All.

Lets get NSW/VIC up and running together that brings back a huge amount of Domestic workers back into the fray.
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Old 19th Sep 2021, 03:57
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Originally Posted by Turnleft080
Heard on the radio retail will open up on 5th Nov that goes with interstate travel. That's according to the model still a bloody long way to go.
That seems to be what is being suggested, interstate travel around the first week of November:

Victoria’s Roadmap: Summary of proposed restriction levels

There was a deleted post here seemingly talking about some new “90%” target, that seems to be a furphy, there’s no mention of it anywhere I can see.
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Old 19th Sep 2021, 04:04
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Originally Posted by dr dre
That seems to be what is being suggested, interstate travel around the first week of November:

Victoria’s Roadmap: Summary of proposed restriction levels

There was a deleted post here seemingly talking about some new “90%” target, that seems to be a furphy, there’s no mention of it anywhere I can see.
Yeah, that was me sorry. Someone sent me a screenshot with some 90% details but I couldn’t (and can’t) verify it so I deleted it. As you said, looks like a furphy. Apologies.
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Old 19th Sep 2021, 07:54
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Singapore is now running at about 1000 new cases a day with 900 currently in hospital of which 100 are serious and 18 in the ICU.

However 98% of cases have no or mild symptoms now that 82% of the population are vaccinated. Most of those seriously ill are unvaccinated and over 60 with underlying health conditions.

Home recovery is now the default for vaccinated people up to the age of 69 who test positive.

Case numbers have risen dramatically but serious cases have remained at a manageable level and the ICUs are at about 10% capacity with COVID patents.

For those under 60, fully vaccinated, without major health issues, the risk is very minimal.
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Old 19th Sep 2021, 09:07
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Vic modelling on the roadmap shows peak of 4500 daily cases and 2200 deaths by January. Imagine delta with no vaccines.
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Old 19th Sep 2021, 09:43
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The fear continues!
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Old 19th Sep 2021, 10:40
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Originally Posted by Ladloy
Vic modelling on the roadmap shows peak of 4500 daily cases and 2200 deaths by January.
Old Mate out west just went into cardiac arrest.
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Old 19th Sep 2021, 11:02
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Originally Posted by Ladloy
Vic modelling on the roadmap shows peak of 4500 daily cases and 2200 deaths by January. Imagine delta with no vaccines.
Rubbish modelling, not "enveloped" by a comparable reality in say Malta, Denmark (etc), or even UK. Malta running at about 1 death p.w., Transpose to Vic pro-rata to population that is 10 p.w throw in fudge factor lets say 30. As a pro analyst/mathematician (incl COVID) such dumb projection (or mis-interpretation of a scenario by the media) sh**ts me to death. Several sets of modellers in Au have trouble exercising their theory beyond what a simple spreadsheet can manage, they can't handle time-varying vax rates and are basically modelling long-run steady state on the edge of in-control say 80% vax 18+.

There may be a few hundred deaths, a few dozen shockers but otherwise the people who pass were close to edge anyway. Vic roadmap is too slow and even over the past 4-5 days compliance has visibly slipped... Dan will have a severe crisis of authority before 23 Oct. That is a reality as important as the physics of disease transmission, and must be worked within.

Should be dropping outside masks immediately and permitting workplaces to be at or above 1/3 full if majority fully vaxxed.







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Old 19th Sep 2021, 11:04
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Originally Posted by Ladloy
Vic modelling on the roadmap shows peak of 4500 daily cases and 2200 deaths by January. Imagine delta with no vaccines.
Don't these so called experts get sick of being proven wrong?
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Old 19th Sep 2021, 11:14
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Originally Posted by krismiler
For those under 60, fully vaccinated, without major health issues, the risk is very minimal.
fixed it for you
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Old 19th Sep 2021, 13:56
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Originally Posted by PoppaJo
Old Mate out west just went into cardiac arrest.

We love our life here. Hope we can keep the pox out as long as possible. The Golden Girl seems happy to spread it all over Australia. And ScoMo.. who I used to vote for. Right now.. we no longer need a Federal Government ( ScoMo is the PM for NSW)…
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Old 19th Sep 2021, 19:41
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We love our life here. Hope we can keep the pox out as long as possible. The Golden Girl seems happy to spread it all over Australia. And ScoMo.. who I used to vote for. Right now.. we no longer need a Federal Government ( ScoMo is the PM for NSW)…
So what’s the plan WA? Stay locked away forever, current border closure is already having drastic labor shortages over there. McGowen has not done a thing to improve WA health position which is a disaster on all fronts that’s just one of real reason for his hard stance, he wouldn’t want to be exposed. He is more than happy to ride the high of the ore boasting about saving Australia, all in all, all this is doing is deflecting Lord Daddy of the west failing as a Premier. NSW has a plan to move on, it will be without the West and QLD good luck enjoy a very long 2022 with short sharp lockdowns because you have to quach the virus when another truckie from NSW comes to deliver goods.
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Old 19th Sep 2021, 20:25
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Originally Posted by PoppaJo
Old Mate out west just went into cardiac arrest.
Hopefully he hasn’t been keeping an eye on the Iron ore price recently!
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Old 19th Sep 2021, 20:58
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Hey SHVC. Don’t waste breath on SOPS and the ‘tin-foil hat’ nonsense he comes out with; he alluded to being a tin-foil hat wearer in the ME forums a couple of days ago. I think that also means ‘hiding under rocks’ and ‘being scared of life’…

Can’t believe the nonsense still coming out of Oz over EIGHTEEN months after this pandemic started!
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