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Old 12th Aug 2021, 23:23
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Profiling using names & faces mightnít tell you much

Had an Indian born & educated student with a very English name (something like John Brown)

Also had many Australian born & raised students with names like Sabah, Dimitar, Najeev...

Or are you thinking of the Deputy-Premierís daughter (& friends) breaking isolation to party in Queanbeyan?
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Old 12th Aug 2021, 23:57
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Originally Posted by Lead Balloon
And naturally a stack of Canberrans bugged out to the south coast to avoid the 'lockdown'.

Standby for cases in Batemans Bay and surrounds.

So half-arsed.
Including all the pollies who just about trampled each other in the rush to get to the airport to get back to their home States in time!
Pity the bunch of ass-clowns didnít get stuck there or caught up in isolation.
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Old 13th Aug 2021, 00:13
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Originally Posted by MickG0105
Out of control?!

The annual inflation rate for the US for the 12 months ending April 2021 was 4.2 percent, for the 12 months ending May it was 5.0 percent, for June 5.4 percent and for July it was similarly 5.4 percent. In other words, after rising steeply earlier in the year as the economy recovered inflation is showing signs of plateauing.

In Europe the annual inflation rate for the 12 months ending April was 2.0 percent, for the 12 months ending June it was 2.2 percent. Neither particularly high nor showing signs of being out of control.

In Australia the annual inflation rate for the 12 months ending June was 3.8 percent, with nearly half of that headline rate coming from the September quarter 2020 bounce back of 1.6 percent (the preceding quarter, June 2020 was -1.9 percent). That 1.6 percent will drop out of the 12 monthly calculation when the next quarter's rates are calculated. With underlying inflation running at around 1.6 percent our September quarter's annual inflation rate will likely be around 3 percent, falling to around 2.8 percent by the end of the year.
Well the OECD doesnít necessarily agree that there is a guarantee of an inflation slowdown or a plateau likely globally. Highest levels since 2008 is hardly Ďunder controlí.

https://www.google.com.au/amp/s/amp....ecd/index.html



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Old 13th Aug 2021, 01:16
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Originally Posted by Paragraph377
Well the OECD doesnít necessarily agree that there is a guarantee of an inflation slowdown or a plateau likely globally. Highest levels since 2008 is hardly Ďunder controlí.

https://www.google.com.au/amp/s/amp....ecd/index.html
The OECD may not agree that there is a "guarantee" of an inflation slowdown or a plateau but that is most assuredly their oft stated expectation. Did you not read the following in the very article that you have provided a link to?

The OECD expects the jump in inflation will fade by the end of the year as supply chains disrupted by the pandemic get back up to speed and production capacity returns to normal.
"The OECD expects the jump in inflation will fade by the end of the year ..."

A fairly clear statement and one that reflects the view outlined previously in the OECD Economic Outlook, Volume 2021 Issue 1

A new, much-debated risk is the possibility of higher inflation. Commodity prices have been rising fast. Bottlenecks in some sectors and disruptions to trade are creating price tensions. These disruptions should start to fade towards the end of the year, as production capacity normalises and consumption rebalances from goods towards services.
And the expected slowdown in inflationary pressures is baked into the OECD's inflation forecasts for 2022,



Does that look "out of control"?
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Old 13th Aug 2021, 02:12
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FUBAR.....yep
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Old 13th Aug 2021, 02:16
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Originally Posted by MickG0105
The OECD may not agree that there is a "guarantee" of an inflation slowdown or a plateau but that is most assuredly their oft stated expectation. Did you not read the following in the very article that you have provided a link to?



"The OECD expects the jump in inflation will fade by the end of the year ..."

A fairly clear statement and one that reflects the view outlined previously in the OECD Economic Outlook, Volume 2021 Issue 1



And the expected slowdown in inflationary pressures is baked into the OECD's inflation forecasts for 2022,



Does that look "out of control"?
Just keep printing money then I guess.....now where's my wheelbarrow?
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Old 13th Aug 2021, 02:42
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Interesting that Australia copied the US inflation at a lower rate through to 2021, and then diverged lower at Q2 2021. That's despite the US having vastly different response to Australia. I assume US stayed higher due to the Stimulus cheques kicking in around March 2021, hence the divergence. Also everything post Q2 2021 is a forecast so a best guess at what it will be. It could keep climbing.
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Old 13th Aug 2021, 04:10
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What has inflation got to do with border restrictions?

Anyway, in the news here in the U.K. today is ECB CEO Tom Harrison is talking to the Australian government about the possibility of players families joining the England cricket team for the Ashes which start in December.

In essence, if this doesnít happen - the Ashes will
not go ahead this year.

Do I expect any compassion or flexibility - when they subject athletes to 28 day quarantineÖ err no.
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Old 13th Aug 2021, 04:30
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AndÖeven if you are from WA but stuck in NSW, unless you have had one Covid vax and a negative test, you are no longer allowed into Western Australia.

English cricket players families, I doubt it.
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Old 13th Aug 2021, 04:34
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Well it looks like this whole border situation has become unhinged.

https://www.smh.com.au/national/mcgo...13-p58ihr.html


WA supercharges border rules under ‘high’ and ‘extreme’ risk categories

Western Australia will place its harshest measures yet on travellers from COVID-infected states, including having to prove they have received at least one vaccine dose and have recorded a negative PCR test in the three days before their departure.

The changes come under an overhaul of WA’s COVID-19 state classifications, which include stricter testing and vaccine rules under its ‘high risk’ category and the introduction of an ‘extreme risk’ category that will see travellers having to complete two weeks hotel quarantine.

The changes are the most significant boosts to border controls since the hard border was introduced at the beginning of the pandemic and come as New South Wales announced a record 390 new cases and two more deaths.

The new high-risk category will be triggered when a state records a daily average of 50 new community cases, while the extreme risk category will be declared when an average of 500 new community cases is recorded.

The new rules will only apply to people who have an exemption to enter the state, but with 61 people driving from New South Wales on Thursday and 41 people expected on Friday, Mr McGowan said there was still a significant risk.

Mr McGowan said New South Wales would be upgraded to ‘high risk’ on August 17.

“What is happening in New South Wales continues to be a growing concern for their own citizens and for the entire country, given it is continually seeding the virus into other states,” he said.

“These criteria are very tough, this hasn’t been done before in Australia ... we’ve done it for other overseas countries, we haven’t done it between the states, but I think it’s entirely fair.

“These are tough measures, but they’re necessary to protect the state, and they’re needed, as soon as possible.”

Chief Health Officer Andy Robertson, who provided the health advice informing the new border rules, said the testing and vaccine proof requirements were introduced to reduce infection risks.

“We know that that vaccines do reduce both the infection rate of somebody who’s vaccinated and obviously the spread from that person. This was a good opportunity to actually strengthen that and decrease the risk of importation into WA,” he said.

Under the new high-risk rules, approved travellers will be subject to all medium-risk restrictions as well as proof of a negative COVID-19 PCR test in the 72 hours prior to their departure, proof of at least one dose of the COVID-19 vaccine, and the requirement to use the G2G Now app while in quarantine.

Approved travellers under the new extreme risk category will also be required to complete two weeks of mandatory hotel quarantine at a state facility and also receive an additional COVID-19 test on day five.

For ‘extreme risk’ situations, exemptions will be restricted to only Commonwealth state and specialist functions.

However, for the high-risk category compassionate exemption guidelines will be adjusted to allow stranded West Australians to return home.

What it’s saying is if you are a Western Australian in New South Wales and you’re despairing about coming home, it gives you a pathway to come back provided you are vaccinated,” Mr McGowan said.

He also announced from midnight Friday, the ACT would be designated a ‘medium risk’ jurisdiction, which will restrict travel to WA to exempted travellers only and require them to self-isolate for 14 days.

South Australia will also be downgraded to a low-risk category, which will allow travel without exemption but also requires 14 days self-isolation.
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Old 13th Aug 2021, 04:51
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Just taken me four days to get a result so not sure how effective that is going to be.
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Old 13th Aug 2021, 05:09
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Just taken me four days to get a result so not sure how effective that is going to be.
If you get tested at a airport station, tell them your flight crew or hold an ASIC and they accelerate the process and you
get a result in 6 hours.
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Old 13th Aug 2021, 05:13
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Sure, that might work for me but what about Joe Public who needs a negative result within the previous 72 hours to enter WA? I think my wait was a bit longer than average but the wheels are coming off in NSW - make no mistake. There is a struggle now to maintain public transport services with hundreds of workers in isolation.
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Old 13th Aug 2021, 05:32
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Originally Posted by DirectAnywhere
Sure, that might work for me but what about Joe Public who needs a negative result within the previous 72 hours to enter WA? I think my wait was a bit longer than average but the wheels are coming off in NSW - make no mistake. There is a struggle now to maintain public transport services with hundreds of workers in isolation.
The last 18 months has laid the foundation for more red tape. The states are holding this country to ransom. The rest of the world are now
antigen testing. That could be done here, but no, to busy squabbling, over it's accuracy which is very high.
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Old 13th Aug 2021, 05:50
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This really is the start of what is going to be a long road ahead for the newly exiled NSW.

Nobody will want a bar of them for god knows how long.

Iíd be happy for all states to firm up the border even with extreme measures to get the remainder of the domestic market moving again. We need to cut them off and get whatís left open and flowing again.
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Old 13th Aug 2021, 06:12
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Originally Posted by DirectAnywhere
Sure, that might work for me but what about Joe Public who needs a negative result within the previous 72 hours to enter WA? I think my wait was a bit longer than average but the wheels are coming off in NSW - make no mistake. There is a struggle now to maintain public transport services with hundreds of workers in isolation.
Gladys did not want to lock down to protect the economy. What she did not seem to realise was the fact if you have a lot of sick people, you donít have an economy.
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Old 13th Aug 2021, 06:46
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If you get tested at a airport station, tell them your flight crew or hold an ASIC and they accelerate the process and you get a result in 6 hours.
Even better would be some enlightened airports around the world where itís a 60 minute PCR turnaround. Thatís full PCR, not the lessser antigen.
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Old 13th Aug 2021, 08:21
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Originally Posted by PoppaJo
This really is the start of what is going to be a long road ahead for the newly exiled NSW.

Nobody will want a bar of them for god knows how long.

Iíd be happy for all states to firm up the border even with extreme measures to get the remainder of the domestic market moving again. We need to cut them off and get whatís left open and flowing again.
That is a real possibility,the borders into every other state from nsw are going to be as tightly controlled as possible & by doing that it will hopefully enable most of the other states to open up to each other.
Daniel Andrews said today he would have thought it wasnt too hard for airlines to check permits of people flying from nsw to other destinations & i must say i agree with him,isnt it in the interests of the airlines to stop people flying to places they shouldnt be going to & help stop the spread which ultimately will get other borders & states open to each other.
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Old 13th Aug 2021, 08:44
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Originally Posted by blubak
Daniel Andrews said today he would have thought it wasnt too hard for airlines to check permits of people flying from nsw to other destinations & i must say i agree with him,isnt it in the interests of the airlines to stop people flying to places they shouldnt be going to & help stop the spread which ultimately will get other borders & states open to each other.
That's true to a point, but the couple that flew in to Melbourne from Sydney the other day did so on Green Zone permits ie. they didn't tell the truth. Airlines and their staff have no capacity or authority to check people's stories. Someone lies on their application, turns up with a green zone or exempt worker permit, how are airlines possibly supposed to check this?

Also, each state has different entry and permit requirements and different software systems, GTG passes, SAPol passes, Q passes, check-in apps, QR codes etc. and the requirements change so frequently that they are virtually impossible to keep up with. Again, there is a strong argument for a nationally consistent approach with national hotspot definitions and permit requirements - but if we'd been able to achieve any national consensus on anything we probably wouldn't need any such systems, but I digress.

It's possibly another layer in the defence to some extent, but don't expect it to be a panacea. Checks would still need to be performed on arrival at whatever the destination may be.
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Old 13th Aug 2021, 09:16
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Originally Posted by blubak
That is a real possibility,the borders into every other state from nsw are going to be as tightly controlled as possible & by doing that it will hopefully enable most of the other states to open up to each other.
Daniel Andrews said today he would have thought it wasnt too hard for airlines to check permits of people flying from nsw to other destinations & i must say i agree with him,isnt it in the interests of the airlines to stop people flying to places they shouldnt be going to & help stop the spread which ultimately will get other borders & states open to each other.
The airlines arenít there to police every state premierís thought bubble.
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