All borders to reopen.
KRviator
Profiling using names & faces mightn’t tell you much
Had an Indian born & educated student with a very English name (something like John Brown)
Also had many Australian born & raised students with names like Sabah, Dimitar, Najeev...
Or are you thinking of the Deputy-Premier’s daughter (& friends) breaking isolation to party in Queanbeyan?
Profiling using names & faces mightn’t tell you much
Had an Indian born & educated student with a very English name (something like John Brown)
Also had many Australian born & raised students with names like Sabah, Dimitar, Najeev...
Or are you thinking of the Deputy-Premier’s daughter (& friends) breaking isolation to party in Queanbeyan?
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Where else?
Posts: 109
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Pity the bunch of ass-clowns didn’t get stuck there or caught up in isolation.
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: New Zealand
Age: 71
Posts: 1,475
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Out of control?!
The annual inflation rate for the US for the 12 months ending April 2021 was 4.2 percent, for the 12 months ending May it was 5.0 percent, for June 5.4 percent and for July it was similarly 5.4 percent. In other words, after rising steeply earlier in the year as the economy recovered inflation is showing signs of plateauing.
In Europe the annual inflation rate for the 12 months ending April was 2.0 percent, for the 12 months ending June it was 2.2 percent. Neither particularly high nor showing signs of being out of control.
In Australia the annual inflation rate for the 12 months ending June was 3.8 percent, with nearly half of that headline rate coming from the September quarter 2020 bounce back of 1.6 percent (the preceding quarter, June 2020 was -1.9 percent). That 1.6 percent will drop out of the 12 monthly calculation when the next quarter's rates are calculated. With underlying inflation running at around 1.6 percent our September quarter's annual inflation rate will likely be around 3 percent, falling to around 2.8 percent by the end of the year.
The annual inflation rate for the US for the 12 months ending April 2021 was 4.2 percent, for the 12 months ending May it was 5.0 percent, for June 5.4 percent and for July it was similarly 5.4 percent. In other words, after rising steeply earlier in the year as the economy recovered inflation is showing signs of plateauing.
In Europe the annual inflation rate for the 12 months ending April was 2.0 percent, for the 12 months ending June it was 2.2 percent. Neither particularly high nor showing signs of being out of control.
In Australia the annual inflation rate for the 12 months ending June was 3.8 percent, with nearly half of that headline rate coming from the September quarter 2020 bounce back of 1.6 percent (the preceding quarter, June 2020 was -1.9 percent). That 1.6 percent will drop out of the 12 monthly calculation when the next quarter's rates are calculated. With underlying inflation running at around 1.6 percent our September quarter's annual inflation rate will likely be around 3 percent, falling to around 2.8 percent by the end of the year.
https://www.google.com.au/amp/s/amp....ecd/index.html
Well the OECD doesn’t necessarily agree that there is a guarantee of an inflation slowdown or a plateau likely globally. Highest levels since 2008 is hardly ‘under control’.
https://www.google.com.au/amp/s/amp....ecd/index.html
https://www.google.com.au/amp/s/amp....ecd/index.html
The OECD expects the jump in inflation will fade by the end of the year as supply chains disrupted by the pandemic get back up to speed and production capacity returns to normal.
A fairly clear statement and one that reflects the view outlined previously in the OECD Economic Outlook, Volume 2021 Issue 1
A new, much-debated risk is the possibility of higher inflation. Commodity prices have been rising fast. Bottlenecks in some sectors and disruptions to trade are creating price tensions. These disruptions should start to fade towards the end of the year, as production capacity normalises and consumption rebalances from goods towards services.
Does that look "out of control"?
FUBAR.....yep
The OECD may not agree that there is a "guarantee" of an inflation slowdown or a plateau but that is most assuredly their oft stated expectation. Did you not read the following in the very article that you have provided a link to?
"The OECD expects the jump in inflation will fade by the end of the year ..."
A fairly clear statement and one that reflects the view outlined previously in the OECD Economic Outlook, Volume 2021 Issue 1
And the expected slowdown in inflationary pressures is baked into the OECD's inflation forecasts for 2022,
Does that look "out of control"?
"The OECD expects the jump in inflation will fade by the end of the year ..."
A fairly clear statement and one that reflects the view outlined previously in the OECD Economic Outlook, Volume 2021 Issue 1
And the expected slowdown in inflationary pressures is baked into the OECD's inflation forecasts for 2022,
Does that look "out of control"?
Interesting that Australia copied the US inflation at a lower rate through to 2021, and then diverged lower at Q2 2021. That's despite the US having vastly different response to Australia. I assume US stayed higher due to the Stimulus cheques kicking in around March 2021, hence the divergence. Also everything post Q2 2021 is a forecast so a best guess at what it will be. It could keep climbing.
What has inflation got to do with border restrictions?
Anyway, in the news here in the U.K. today is ECB CEO Tom Harrison is talking to the Australian government about the possibility of players families joining the England cricket team for the Ashes which start in December.
In essence, if this doesn’t happen - the Ashes will
not go ahead this year.
Do I expect any compassion or flexibility - when they subject athletes to 28 day quarantine… err no.
Anyway, in the news here in the U.K. today is ECB CEO Tom Harrison is talking to the Australian government about the possibility of players families joining the England cricket team for the Ashes which start in December.
In essence, if this doesn’t happen - the Ashes will
not go ahead this year.
Do I expect any compassion or flexibility - when they subject athletes to 28 day quarantine… err no.
short flights long nights
And…even if you are from WA but stuck in NSW, unless you have had one Covid vax and a negative test, you are no longer allowed into Western Australia.
English cricket players families, I doubt it.
English cricket players families, I doubt it.
Well it looks like this whole border situation has become unhinged.
https://www.smh.com.au/national/mcgo...13-p58ihr.html
The changes come under an overhaul of WA’s COVID-19 state classifications, which include stricter testing and vaccine rules under its ‘high risk’ category and the introduction of an ‘extreme risk’ category that will see travellers having to complete two weeks hotel quarantine.
The changes are the most significant boosts to border controls since the hard border was introduced at the beginning of the pandemic and come as New South Wales announced a record 390 new cases and two more deaths.
The new high-risk category will be triggered when a state records a daily average of 50 new community cases, while the extreme risk category will be declared when an average of 500 new community cases is recorded.
The new rules will only apply to people who have an exemption to enter the state, but with 61 people driving from New South Wales on Thursday and 41 people expected on Friday, Mr McGowan said there was still a significant risk.
Mr McGowan said New South Wales would be upgraded to ‘high risk’ on August 17.
“What is happening in New South Wales continues to be a growing concern for their own citizens and for the entire country, given it is continually seeding the virus into other states,” he said.
“These criteria are very tough, this hasn’t been done before in Australia ... we’ve done it for other overseas countries, we haven’t done it between the states, but I think it’s entirely fair.
“These are tough measures, but they’re necessary to protect the state, and they’re needed, as soon as possible.”
Chief Health Officer Andy Robertson, who provided the health advice informing the new border rules, said the testing and vaccine proof requirements were introduced to reduce infection risks.
“We know that that vaccines do reduce both the infection rate of somebody who’s vaccinated and obviously the spread from that person. This was a good opportunity to actually strengthen that and decrease the risk of importation into WA,” he said.
Under the new high-risk rules, approved travellers will be subject to all medium-risk restrictions as well as proof of a negative COVID-19 PCR test in the 72 hours prior to their departure, proof of at least one dose of the COVID-19 vaccine, and the requirement to use the G2G Now app while in quarantine.
Approved travellers under the new extreme risk category will also be required to complete two weeks of mandatory hotel quarantine at a state facility and also receive an additional COVID-19 test on day five.
For ‘extreme risk’ situations, exemptions will be restricted to only Commonwealth state and specialist functions.
However, for the high-risk category compassionate exemption guidelines will be adjusted to allow stranded West Australians to return home.
What it’s saying is if you are a Western Australian in New South Wales and you’re despairing about coming home, it gives you a pathway to come back provided you are vaccinated,” Mr McGowan said.
He also announced from midnight Friday, the ACT would be designated a ‘medium risk’ jurisdiction, which will restrict travel to WA to exempted travellers only and require them to self-isolate for 14 days.
South Australia will also be downgraded to a low-risk category, which will allow travel without exemption but also requires 14 days self-isolation.
https://www.smh.com.au/national/mcgo...13-p58ihr.html
WA supercharges border rules under ‘high’ and ‘extreme’ risk categories
Western Australia will place its harshest measures yet on travellers from COVID-infected states, including having to prove they have received at least one vaccine dose and have recorded a negative PCR test in the three days before their departure.The changes come under an overhaul of WA’s COVID-19 state classifications, which include stricter testing and vaccine rules under its ‘high risk’ category and the introduction of an ‘extreme risk’ category that will see travellers having to complete two weeks hotel quarantine.
The changes are the most significant boosts to border controls since the hard border was introduced at the beginning of the pandemic and come as New South Wales announced a record 390 new cases and two more deaths.
The new high-risk category will be triggered when a state records a daily average of 50 new community cases, while the extreme risk category will be declared when an average of 500 new community cases is recorded.
The new rules will only apply to people who have an exemption to enter the state, but with 61 people driving from New South Wales on Thursday and 41 people expected on Friday, Mr McGowan said there was still a significant risk.
Mr McGowan said New South Wales would be upgraded to ‘high risk’ on August 17.
“What is happening in New South Wales continues to be a growing concern for their own citizens and for the entire country, given it is continually seeding the virus into other states,” he said.
“These criteria are very tough, this hasn’t been done before in Australia ... we’ve done it for other overseas countries, we haven’t done it between the states, but I think it’s entirely fair.
“These are tough measures, but they’re necessary to protect the state, and they’re needed, as soon as possible.”
Chief Health Officer Andy Robertson, who provided the health advice informing the new border rules, said the testing and vaccine proof requirements were introduced to reduce infection risks.
“We know that that vaccines do reduce both the infection rate of somebody who’s vaccinated and obviously the spread from that person. This was a good opportunity to actually strengthen that and decrease the risk of importation into WA,” he said.
Under the new high-risk rules, approved travellers will be subject to all medium-risk restrictions as well as proof of a negative COVID-19 PCR test in the 72 hours prior to their departure, proof of at least one dose of the COVID-19 vaccine, and the requirement to use the G2G Now app while in quarantine.
Approved travellers under the new extreme risk category will also be required to complete two weeks of mandatory hotel quarantine at a state facility and also receive an additional COVID-19 test on day five.
For ‘extreme risk’ situations, exemptions will be restricted to only Commonwealth state and specialist functions.
However, for the high-risk category compassionate exemption guidelines will be adjusted to allow stranded West Australians to return home.
What it’s saying is if you are a Western Australian in New South Wales and you’re despairing about coming home, it gives you a pathway to come back provided you are vaccinated,” Mr McGowan said.
He also announced from midnight Friday, the ACT would be designated a ‘medium risk’ jurisdiction, which will restrict travel to WA to exempted travellers only and require them to self-isolate for 14 days.
South Australia will also be downgraded to a low-risk category, which will allow travel without exemption but also requires 14 days self-isolation.
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: Most locked down city in the world
Posts: 546
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Sure, that might work for me but what about Joe Public who needs a negative result within the previous 72 hours to enter WA? I think my wait was a bit longer than average but the wheels are coming off in NSW - make no mistake. There is a struggle now to maintain public transport services with hundreds of workers in isolation.
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: Most locked down city in the world
Posts: 546
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Sure, that might work for me but what about Joe Public who needs a negative result within the previous 72 hours to enter WA? I think my wait was a bit longer than average but the wheels are coming off in NSW - make no mistake. There is a struggle now to maintain public transport services with hundreds of workers in isolation.
antigen testing. That could be done here, but no, to busy squabbling, over it's accuracy which is very high.
This really is the start of what is going to be a long road ahead for the newly exiled NSW.
Nobody will want a bar of them for god knows how long.
I’d be happy for all states to firm up the border even with extreme measures to get the remainder of the domestic market moving again. We need to cut them off and get what’s left open and flowing again.
Nobody will want a bar of them for god knows how long.
I’d be happy for all states to firm up the border even with extreme measures to get the remainder of the domestic market moving again. We need to cut them off and get what’s left open and flowing again.
short flights long nights
Sure, that might work for me but what about Joe Public who needs a negative result within the previous 72 hours to enter WA? I think my wait was a bit longer than average but the wheels are coming off in NSW - make no mistake. There is a struggle now to maintain public transport services with hundreds of workers in isolation.
Even better would be some enlightened airports around the world where it’s a 60 minute PCR turnaround. That’s full PCR, not the lessser antigen.
This really is the start of what is going to be a long road ahead for the newly exiled NSW.
Nobody will want a bar of them for god knows how long.
I’d be happy for all states to firm up the border even with extreme measures to get the remainder of the domestic market moving again. We need to cut them off and get what’s left open and flowing again.
Nobody will want a bar of them for god knows how long.
I’d be happy for all states to firm up the border even with extreme measures to get the remainder of the domestic market moving again. We need to cut them off and get what’s left open and flowing again.
Daniel Andrews said today he would have thought it wasnt too hard for airlines to check permits of people flying from nsw to other destinations & i must say i agree with him,isnt it in the interests of the airlines to stop people flying to places they shouldnt be going to & help stop the spread which ultimately will get other borders & states open to each other.
Daniel Andrews said today he would have thought it wasnt too hard for airlines to check permits of people flying from nsw to other destinations & i must say i agree with him,isnt it in the interests of the airlines to stop people flying to places they shouldnt be going to & help stop the spread which ultimately will get other borders & states open to each other.
Also, each state has different entry and permit requirements and different software systems, GTG passes, SAPol passes, Q passes, check-in apps, QR codes etc. and the requirements change so frequently that they are virtually impossible to keep up with. Again, there is a strong argument for a nationally consistent approach with national hotspot definitions and permit requirements - but if we'd been able to achieve any national consensus on anything we probably wouldn't need any such systems, but I digress.
It's possibly another layer in the defence to some extent, but don't expect it to be a panacea. Checks would still need to be performed on arrival at whatever the destination may be.
That is a real possibility,the borders into every other state from nsw are going to be as tightly controlled as possible & by doing that it will hopefully enable most of the other states to open up to each other.
Daniel Andrews said today he would have thought it wasnt too hard for airlines to check permits of people flying from nsw to other destinations & i must say i agree with him,isnt it in the interests of the airlines to stop people flying to places they shouldnt be going to & help stop the spread which ultimately will get other borders & states open to each other.
Daniel Andrews said today he would have thought it wasnt too hard for airlines to check permits of people flying from nsw to other destinations & i must say i agree with him,isnt it in the interests of the airlines to stop people flying to places they shouldnt be going to & help stop the spread which ultimately will get other borders & states open to each other.