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Old 27th Sep 2021, 22:58
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And to relax controls before everyone who wants it has had the opportunity for double vaccination is morally reprehensible.
But leaving people to die alone, blowing up the economy, taking away people's lively hood, destroying businesses isn't???
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Old 27th Sep 2021, 23:07
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Looks like Queensland’s time is up.

A outbreak is about the only thing that will get this woeful vax rate up. My fellow citizens up here need a massive kick up the ar$e.
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Old 28th Sep 2021, 00:17
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Originally Posted by neville_nobody
But leaving people to die alone, blowing up the economy, taking away people's lively hood, destroying businesses isn't???
That's not happening on this side of the continent.
But may well happen if the controls are relaxed too early.
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Old 28th Sep 2021, 00:22
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But she says ‘there’s no need to panic’ PoppaJo, not yet at least….maybe after the grand final though, then she’ll panic. Oh the hypocrisy of it all………
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Old 28th Sep 2021, 00:25
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But she says ‘there’s no need to panic’ PoppaJo, not yet at least….maybe after the grand final though, then she’ll panic. Oh the hypocrisy of it all………
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Old 28th Sep 2021, 02:33
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Originally Posted by WingNut60
The 70 / 80% proposal has NEVER been sufficiently explained to the Oz public.
Ask most which group the 70 - 80% applies to and they'll have no idea.
And do the masses understand that these rates are all about keeping the health systems in functioning order and that preventing deaths is only a side-benefit?
I doubt it.

And to relax controls before everyone who wants it has had the opportunity for double vaccination is morally reprehensible.
As is sitting on a billion dollar surplus while overseeing a maxed-out health system; COVID not included.
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Old 28th Sep 2021, 05:32
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Originally Posted by Chronic Snoozer
As is sitting on a billion dollar surplus while overseeing a maxed-out health system; COVID not included.
I confess that, luckily, I have no idea of the extent to which the WA Health system is maxed out, or otherwise.
Nor do I know where the problem might lie. I last heard that the Fiona Stanley Hospital had floors still empty.
I suspect that it's mainly about lack of staff rather than facilities. I stand to be corrected.

McGowan is doing himself no favours by failing to respond to the criticism.

But I do refer to my previous post; what is the quick fix for the current situation?
I can see no improvement in staffing levels until the international border opens and immigration resumes.
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Old 28th Sep 2021, 05:58
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Yep. It has little to do with money and much to do with expertise.

Without immigration Australia's public health system would collapse. That's why there's an ongoing scramble to import expertise through Australia's 'closed' international borders.
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Old 28th Sep 2021, 06:41
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Yep. It has little to do with money and much to do with expertise.

Without immigration Australia's public health system would collapse. That's why there's an ongoing scramble to import expertise through Australia's 'closed' international borders.
Why not pay nurses etc what they're worth? Why the need for immigration? PPP could be the reason. There's plenty of problems money can fix.

https://www.watoday.com.au/national/...28-p58vb0.html

And to be fair they are claiming to be doing something about it but it's questionable why this wasn't done sooner.

https://www.watoday.com.au/national/...08-p58guu.html
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Old 28th Sep 2021, 07:34
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Questionable? It's unquestionably abject incompetence.

But because Australia's used to make the quickest buck the laziest way, it's become highly dependent on the immigration Ponzi scheme. It's impossible to grow enough doctors and nurses quickly enough locally, because it's just that.
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Old 28th Sep 2021, 09:13
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Originally Posted by PoppaJo
Looks like Queensland’s time is up.

A outbreak is about the only thing that will get this woeful vax rate up. My fellow citizens up here need a massive kick up the ar$e.
So Anna, will it be go ahead with the NRL grand final or keep Queenslanders safe? I know you are completely genuine with the later, so surely money won’t be a consideration will it?
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Old 28th Sep 2021, 09:28
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Wasn't Queen P having a soiree of her couple of hundred/thousand closest money contributors in the near future.

Now will THAT continue, one must get one's priorities straight.
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Old 28th Sep 2021, 18:54
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The NRL GF will go ahead no doubts there. Come Tuesday tho, state wide lockdown have to quach the virus, QLDnrs you’re doing a great job blah blah blah. Whilst NSW, ACT and Victoria will very much enjoy a 2019 style xmas I think QLD will be spending it alone and isolated not only from the country, but, even their next door neighbors. .
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Old 28th Sep 2021, 20:43
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They only start lockdowns in school holidays!
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Old 30th Sep 2021, 22:15
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Victoria reported 1,438 cases yesterday.

Also reported that 93% of these cases were unvaccinated.

In a couple of weeks about 7% of theses cases will end up in hospital (~100) with about 1% (~14) likely to end up in ICU.

The unvaccinated are going to cause the hospital system grief for some time yet.
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Old 1st Oct 2021, 06:52
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News in the last few hours which I'm sure everyone has heard via other means but Gladys has resigned. Expects the party to elect a new leader/Premier in the next few days and she will also resign from Parliament.

Apparently the ICAC Inquiry hasn't gone away and she's seen a sword and fallen on it.
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Old 1st Oct 2021, 07:20
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Originally Posted by layman
Victoria reported 1,438 cases yesterday.

Also reported that 93% of these cases were unvaccinated.

In a couple of weeks about 7% of theses cases will end up in hospital (~100) with about 1% (~14) likely to end up in ICU.

The unvaccinated are going to cause the hospital system grief for some time yet.
Thats a huge % unvaccinated,i guess there will always be those who shout conspiracy but for the average guy in the street why would you take the risk.
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Old 1st Oct 2021, 08:34
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With ScoMo opening the international borders, I can now feasibly travel Sydney to Singapore, before I can go to Brisbane or Perth. Or Adelaide or Hobart for that matter.
A pleasing step but still incredibly frustrating!
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Old 1st Oct 2021, 09:38
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With ScoMo opening the international borders, I can now feasibly travel Sydney to Singapore, before I can go to Brisbane or Perth. Or Adelaide or Hobart for that matter.
A pleasing step but still incredibly frustrating!
is that correct?

https://safetravel.ica.gov.sg/australia/atp/notice
Short-term visitors with travel history to Australia, within the last 21 days before departure for Singapore, will not be allowed to enter Singapore with effect from 2 July 2021, 2359hrs (Singapore time). Please refer to the press release here issued by the Singapore Ministry of Health (MOH) dated 30 June 2021.

With immediate effect, applications for the ATP for short-term visitors travelling from Australia will be suspended until further notice.

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Old 1st Oct 2021, 10:05
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Originally Posted by AerialPerspective
News in the last few hours which I'm sure everyone has heard via other means but Gladys has resigned. Expects the party to elect a new leader/Premier in the next few days and she will also resign from Parliament.

Apparently the ICAC Inquiry hasn't gone away and she's seen a sword and fallen on it.
Let’s hope this has no bearing on NSW’s plan to open up….
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