All borders to reopen.
Nunc est bibendum
Originally Posted by Gnadenburg
For the border hoppers, QLD Police Officers are accessing your iPhone to see where you've been. "Significant Locations" is the hardware.
Originally Posted by Keg
Whist I have no significant qualms adhering to the various health directions I made a decision a couple of years back that I would not let Apple (and now the QLD police) see my ‘significant locations’ and thus it’s not enabled on my phone.
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Originally Posted by Capn Rex Havoc
From the ABC
Am I the only one who is concerned by this? Key words - "new freedoms". WTF. I always thought that outdoor recreation in my country was a an inalienable right.
Am I the only one who is concerned by this? Key words - "new freedoms". WTF. I always thought that outdoor recreation in my country was a an inalienable right.
Originally Posted by machtuk
its the start of Govt sanctioned discrimination, human rights abuse and segregation, class division in a third world country with a first world facade!
This GF will be interesting playing at 19:00 WST I'm thinking it could well be the lowest viewership in and AFL GF history.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-09-...aled/100440842
5:15pm WST
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Originally Posted by Xeptu
It's pretty hard not to these days. The metadata (celltower info) is stored by your service provider, it's no where near as accurate as your handset data but good enough. An android handset is almost impossible to hide.
Originally Posted by Gnadenburg
As you know, what you have will just be taken off you by those with better weapons.
Originally Posted by Keg
Yes but the local copper asking to see my phone can’t get the metadata by looking at it.
AND, NO. I haven't been watching too many US TV shows, I live in the only State with something approximating a Bill of Rights which spells out precisely how and under what circumstances Police can stop you.
Happily, my experiences with the State Police have been that of professionalism on the part of their officers at all times (the Police Force I refer to, yes located in Australia, is consistently rated one of the most respected in the world by it's citizens). I've never had a reason to stand my ground so to speak. But I don't believe genuine concern that a crime MAY have been committed should be allowed to lazily go unchecked via exaggeration of their powers as law enforcers either.
The problem is the current system is that it relies on authorities "doing the right thing". How long are these "emergency powers" going to be kept alive? How many years am I not going to be able to travel freely within my own country? Australia has just become a pseudo Authoritarian State with 7 Countries within a country. Police checking up on citizens all in the name of "safety". Interrogation at borders about "where have you been in the last 14 days?" Is this going to continue for years to come?
Whilst everyone pans the USA there is a reason why they behave like they do are the fact they don't have Police checkpoints all over the country and Police stopping people asking what they have been doing. The problem is in Australia the pandemic may be used as an excuse for a new normal. Good luck getting a State Premier to rescind their new found power.
Whilst everyone pans the USA there is a reason why they behave like they do are the fact they don't have Police checkpoints all over the country and Police stopping people asking what they have been doing. The problem is in Australia the pandemic may be used as an excuse for a new normal. Good luck getting a State Premier to rescind their new found power.
Did anyone see the latest from NSW Health? Confiscation of goody bags containing excessive amounts of alcohol for those in apartment blocks that are under quarantine! You're now limited to one six-pack, or 1 x 375ml bottle of sprits per day, per man, perhaps.
That's the scariest bit, right there. The Police do not even have the legal authority to confiscate these items, but someone acting under the authority of the NSW Health Department apparently "does".
Police, in all states and territories are bound by strict legal guidelines on what they can and can't do, particularly regarding searches and seizures (ie, as hinted at by A P above, need a "reasonable suspicion" to search you, they can't just open your care packages willy-nilly), yet it would appear the same checks and balances do not apply to NSW Health. And that's downright scary when you realise the implications of it.
And in other news: 324 new cases in Victoria today. Good to see that Hard lockdown, arresting kiddies for using a playground and the Melbourne curfew is working, eh? Or is it just the nature of the beast with Delta, that once it get's a decent toe-hold, it's going to spread no matter what you do?
A NSW Police spokeswoman said Police officers are not confiscating alcohol delivered to residential buildings, and do not have powers to do so. In all residential lockdown locations, NSW Police are there to ensure compliance with the Public Health Orders and assist NSW Health if required,” the Police spokeswoman said.A spokeswoman for the Sydney Local Health District said when NSW Health took control of apartment buildings for the purposes of limiting the spread of coronavirus, the buildings became subject to alcohol consumption restrictions.
Police, in all states and territories are bound by strict legal guidelines on what they can and can't do, particularly regarding searches and seizures (ie, as hinted at by A P above, need a "reasonable suspicion" to search you, they can't just open your care packages willy-nilly), yet it would appear the same checks and balances do not apply to NSW Health. And that's downright scary when you realise the implications of it.
And in other news: 324 new cases in Victoria today. Good to see that Hard lockdown, arresting kiddies for using a playground and the Melbourne curfew is working, eh? Or is it just the nature of the beast with Delta, that once it get's a decent toe-hold, it's going to spread no matter what you do?
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Originally Posted by Chronic Snoozer
So we don't have "royal" programming on free to air.
That'd fix those pesky royals.
You're welcome.
Originally Posted by galdian
You do know you can either change channels or turn the idiot box off altogether?
That'd fix those pesky royals.
You're welcome.
That'd fix those pesky royals.
You're welcome.
Originally Posted by KRviator
Did anyone see the latest from NSW Health? Confiscation of goody bags containing excessive amounts of alcohol for those in apartment blocks that are under quarantine! You're now limited to one six-pack, or 1 x 375ml bottle of sprits per day, per man, perhaps.
That's the scariest bit, right there. The Police do not even have the legal authority to confiscate these items, but someone acting under the authority of the NSW Health Department apparently "does".
Police, in all states and territories are bound by strict legal guidelines on what they can and can't do, particularly regarding searches and seizures (ie, as hinted at by A P above, need a "reasonable suspicion" to search you, they can't just open your care packages willy-nilly), yet it would appear the same checks and balances do not apply to NSW Health. And that's downright scary when you realise the implications of it.
And in other news: 324 new cases in Victoria today. Good to see that Hard lockdown, arresting kiddies for using a playground and the Melbourne curfew is working, eh? Or is it just the nature of the beast with Delta, that once it get's a decent toe-hold, it's going to spread no matter what you do?
That's the scariest bit, right there. The Police do not even have the legal authority to confiscate these items, but someone acting under the authority of the NSW Health Department apparently "does".
Police, in all states and territories are bound by strict legal guidelines on what they can and can't do, particularly regarding searches and seizures (ie, as hinted at by A P above, need a "reasonable suspicion" to search you, they can't just open your care packages willy-nilly), yet it would appear the same checks and balances do not apply to NSW Health. And that's downright scary when you realise the implications of it.
And in other news: 324 new cases in Victoria today. Good to see that Hard lockdown, arresting kiddies for using a playground and the Melbourne curfew is working, eh? Or is it just the nature of the beast with Delta, that once it get's a decent toe-hold, it's going to spread no matter what you do?
We have become the biggest pussy push overs it’s embarrassing.
As an aside, most infectious disease experts seem to agree that once case numbers hit 100 per day with an R > 1, there’s no reeling it back in to zero. NSW, and now VIC have seen that - soon the rest will follow unless we get vaccines up high enough quick smart.
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Originally Posted by ScepticalOptomist
..................... - soon the rest will follow unless we get vaccines up high enough quick smart.
Is there any real-world example that clearly shows that vaccination rates, on their own, are having any recognisable effect on infection rates?
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Originally Posted by Torukmacto
Most of us will get covid , getting vaccinated won’t stop infection .
Originally Posted by WingNut60
Is there any real-world example to show that a 70, 80 or 90 percent vaccination rate will actually curtail infection rates?
Is there any real-world example that clearly shows that vaccination rates, on their own, are having any recognisable effect on infection rates?
Is there any real-world example that clearly shows that vaccination rates, on their own, are having any recognisable effect on infection rates?
