All borders to reopen.
Anna stay away has done her self and state proud once again. Banning all entry into QLD not even allowing a lady that’s had cancer treatment and lives 75km from the health center. But, if you’re a family member of the NRL you’re good to go come in as you please. QLD and WA have their own agendas which premier is more sick in the mind? Keeping hotels free for NRL family’s is just wrong QLDnrs should be ashamed of their premier.
1. Australia does not have Emergency Use Authorisation for vaccines. The COVID vaccines were provisionally approved as per any vaccine.
2. Vaccines cannot be forced upon people, but it is quite legal to deny service/benefit or offer incentive.
3. It is likely businesses will not sack people for not being vaccinated, but will make them compulsorily redundant.
2. Vaccines cannot be forced upon people, but it is quite legal to deny service/benefit or offer incentive.
3. It is likely businesses will not sack people for not being vaccinated, but will make them compulsorily redundant.
They are certainly not going to be paying QF long haul pilots a 96 week redundancy if they refuse to be vaccinated.
Airline pilots in Australia (both QF group and Virgin) have a very clear decision to make over the next 6-8 weeks - get vaccinated or run the very real risk that you will no longer have a job.
Pretty easy decision really.
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The third point is wishful thinking to say the least. The QF group have come out and said if you don’t fulfil the requirements of your role (ie have the COVID vaccine), your employment will be terminated.
They are certainly not going to be paying QF long haul pilots a 96 week redundancy if they refuse to be vaccinated.
Airline pilots in Australia (both QF group and Virgin) have a very clear decision to make over the next 6-8 weeks - get vaccinated or run the very real risk that you will no longer have a job.
Pretty easy decision really.
They are certainly not going to be paying QF long haul pilots a 96 week redundancy if they refuse to be vaccinated.
Airline pilots in Australia (both QF group and Virgin) have a very clear decision to make over the next 6-8 weeks - get vaccinated or run the very real risk that you will no longer have a job.
Pretty easy decision really.
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Plenty of shouting from the rooftops from the usual suspects, but I would suggest that all of these ‘principled’ pilots won’t be putting their $200k airline job at risk.
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More likely I'd expect there'll be some who are looking to "manufacture" a medical reason why they cannot partake of the vaccine.
Could be an interesting tightrope to find something that doesn't bring into question your ability to hold a Class 1 medical.
Could be an interesting tightrope to find something that doesn't bring into question your ability to hold a Class 1 medical.
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If there's any chance of opening borders at 80% vaccinated in or about DEC, which I agree that is what the federal government is implying, then we need to get some bus loads of distribution teams with vaccines on a road trip into the remote regions of the national food bowl fairly smartly, that's going to take a long time to vaccinate all those farming communities. If the virus gets in there before they are vaccinated there won't be a harvest this year or crops next year. That would be a national catastrophe. How do we make this happen, the National Party isn't what it used to be.
If there's any chance of opening borders at 80% vaccinated in or about DEC, which I agree that is what the federal government is implying, then we need to get some bus loads of distribution teams with vaccines on a road trip into the remote regions of the national food bowl fairly smartly, that's going to take a long time to vaccinate all those farming communities. If the virus gets in there before they are vaccinated there won't be a harvest this year or crops next year. That would be a national catastrophe. How do we make this happen, the National Party isn't what it used to be.
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Gladdy is mad keen on opening international to NSW at 80% vax rate. I wonder if thats her indicating NSW going their own course leaving the other states to manage travelers as they approach their borders.
Dont know where you are Xptu but in the NSW regions there’s virtually no waiting for an AZ.
Trouble is, many people have decided that Pfizer is the one they want and not many takers for the AZ.
There is a risk of side effects for both vaccines of course, but it’s minuscule. This hasn’t stopped people playing politics with the public’s fears and ignorance though.
Trouble is, many people have decided that Pfizer is the one they want and not many takers for the AZ.
There is a risk of side effects for both vaccines of course, but it’s minuscule. This hasn’t stopped people playing politics with the public’s fears and ignorance though.
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Dont know where you are Xptu but in the NSW regions there’s virtually no waiting for an AZ.
Trouble is, many people have decided that Pfizer is the one they want and not many takers for the AZ.
There is a risk of side effects for both vaccines of course, but it’s minuscule. This hasn’t stopped people playing politics with the public’s fears and ignorance though.
Trouble is, many people have decided that Pfizer is the one they want and not many takers for the AZ.
There is a risk of side effects for both vaccines of course, but it’s minuscule. This hasn’t stopped people playing politics with the public’s fears and ignorance though.
ZOMGORRRZZZ! We've just passed 1,000 Covid deaths. That's terrible! A true tragedy, horrible! We MUST do something to stop all these people DYING from Covid! Lockdown! And over there, there's children playing in the park! Police! ARREST THEM! 
Meanwhile, in the Oncology ward, a Doctor sighs as he fills out the death certificate and says "That's the 5,658th lung cancer victim this year..."
Meanwhile, in the Oncology ward, a Doctor sighs as he fills out the death certificate and says "That's the 5,658th lung cancer victim this year..."
Supply it and they will come
ACT 70+ year olds now at 99.45% having had their first dose ... and still going higher each day.
Supply (of an ‘acceptable’ vaccine) & our ability to deliver, would seem to be the main constraints.
Obviously not the whole story, but vaccine hesitancy may be more a very small (but noisy) minority than a real issue
Supply (of an ‘acceptable’ vaccine) & our ability to deliver, would seem to be the main constraints.
Obviously not the whole story, but vaccine hesitancy may be more a very small (but noisy) minority than a real issue
ZOMGORRRZZZ! We've just passed 1,000 Covid deaths. That's terrible! A true tragedy, horrible! We MUST do something to stop all these people DYING from Covid! Lockdown! And over there, there's children playing in the park! Police! ARREST THEM!
Meanwhile, in the Oncology ward, a Doctor sighs as he fills out the death certificate and says "That's the 5,658th lung cancer victim this year..."
Meanwhile, in the Oncology ward, a Doctor sighs as he fills out the death certificate and says "That's the 5,658th lung cancer victim this year..."
I wasn't aware lung cancer is a highly contagious virus. How long would the average lung cancer victim have been known to the medical system and how much treatment would they have received versus a COVID victim? Do lung cancer sufferers often die within 12 days? Adriana Takara
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ACT 70+ year olds now at 99.45% having had their first dose ... and still going higher each day.
Supply (of an ‘acceptable’ vaccine) & our ability to deliver, would seem to be the main constraints.
Obviously not the whole story, but vaccine hesitancy may be more a very small (but noisy) minority than a real issue
Supply (of an ‘acceptable’ vaccine) & our ability to deliver, would seem to be the main constraints.
Obviously not the whole story, but vaccine hesitancy may be more a very small (but noisy) minority than a real issue
Would it be fair to say that we can expect the virus to arrive in those areas around the end of the year, regardless of the borders, is that a fair call?? If that happens at harvest, it will be catastrophic for the nation and the Industry. NO FOOD If we can't get those same people into WA at harvest, very little harvest.
All I'm trying to tell you is the impending problem is bigger than tourism and travel. There is still time to fix it, but scomo better get his finger out.
