All borders to reopen.
This thread was somewhat informative in the beginning.
Now it’s just a circle jerk of a few self righteous, self appointed arbiters of truth posters, one hand on their mates appendage, and the other, patting their own backs congratulating themselves on how superior they are to those with a different opinion, those asking some questions.
Now it’s just a circle jerk of a few self righteous, self appointed arbiters of truth posters, one hand on their mates appendage, and the other, patting their own backs congratulating themselves on how superior they are to those with a different opinion, those asking some questions.
Are you in opposition, uneducated, or just too stupid to understand what is being said? As one of those leads to childish insults.
It's moved to Facebook. Seems some of our aviation friends, the smarter than everyone else pilots, seem happy to post crap that's probably from state sponsored interference and disinformation teams ( CCP and Russians ).
EUA withdrawal for CDC COVID-19 PCR test is due to the development of newer tests that help save time and resources, not because the test is faulty
As far as thread direction yeah it did deviate from Aviation a long time ago, but until the pandemic is sorted out it’s going to prevent any meaningful level of travel and airline industry employment. The only thing that will restore the industry to some semblance of what it was is when enough of society gets vaccinated, so I really can’t understand why any pilot would be opposed to the vaccine.
This could be a place where we help overcome vaccine hesitancy using verified science and get as many vaccinated as possible, or it could be a place where personal insults are thrown, your choice.
Ill say it one more time, as I don't care who you are, how smart you are, I really couldn't give two hoots; but I care for the community in general which includes you clowns;
GO AND GET VACCINATED!
Then the borders will reopen and aviation can start to recover.... anything else just prolongs this misery and keeps me posting drivel here.
GO AND GET VACCINATED!
Then the borders will reopen and aviation can start to recover.... anything else just prolongs this misery and keeps me posting drivel here.
Pot calling kettle. Pot calling kettle.
I get all the statistics and epidemiology and science and where they logically and inexorably lead, so far as the effective response to the pandemic - in isolation - goes.
But your strategic position is still based on a value judgment, with which others may reasonably and appropriately disagree.
There are many other causes of death and disease, the effective and scientifically-based response to which is obvious, in isolation. However, nothing happens in isolation from the real world.
A far greater cost is being paid to save a life potentially lost to this virus than is paid to save a life potentially lost to other causes. That's not an outcome driven by statistics and science and logic.
Vilifying someone for pointing out that fact - for it is a fact - is more than a little hypocritical.
Vilifying someone for pointing out that fact - for it is a fact - is more than a little hypocritical.
Otherwise they just keep throwing stones.
There are many other causes of death and disease, the effective and scientifically-based response to which is obvious, in isolation. However, nothing happens in isolation from the real world.
A far greater cost is being paid to save a life potentially lost to this virus than is paid to save a life potentially lost to other causes. That's not an outcome driven by statistics and science and logic.
A far greater cost is being paid to save a life potentially lost to this virus than is paid to save a life potentially lost to other causes. That's not an outcome driven by statistics and science and logic.
That doesn't seem to be very scientific.
Out of interest and keeping the discussion relevant and on track. It would be great to hear from the main protagonist here, for perspective on their arguments and positions.
1) Has your aviation position been affected by COVID? Say redundancy or serious financial loss.
2) Did you qualify for government handouts such as job keeper?
3) Would you vaccinate if required to do so to keep your job a a pilot? Or would you walk away from flying if it deemed a critical industry requiring vaccination?
For myself.
1) Yes.
2) No.
3) Yes.
1) Has your aviation position been affected by COVID? Say redundancy or serious financial loss.
2) Did you qualify for government handouts such as job keeper?
3) Would you vaccinate if required to do so to keep your job a a pilot? Or would you walk away from flying if it deemed a critical industry requiring vaccination?
For myself.
1) Yes.
2) No.
3) Yes.
1) Yes
2) Yes
3) Yes - have already vaccinated
Had to use the super payout scheme to stay ahead, getting government benefit supplements now, which anyone who has had their annual wage fall below about $80-$100k is elligible for if you have a family. Its a bit of a pain to sign up centrelink if you havn't done it before but the payments definitly help.
2) Yes
3) Yes - have already vaccinated
Had to use the super payout scheme to stay ahead, getting government benefit supplements now, which anyone who has had their annual wage fall below about $80-$100k is elligible for if you have a family. Its a bit of a pain to sign up centrelink if you havn't done it before but the payments definitly help.
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1) Yes
2) Yes
3) Yes - fully vaccinated.
It's not about whether you keep your job or not. Its not about the individual.
Anyone who doesn't wish to get vaccinated (due to having a massive sense of entitlement) and be part of protecting society, their community, their friends and their family is quite frankly a selfish prick.
2) Yes
3) Yes - fully vaccinated.
It's not about whether you keep your job or not. Its not about the individual.
Anyone who doesn't wish to get vaccinated (due to having a massive sense of entitlement) and be part of protecting society, their community, their friends and their family is quite frankly a selfish prick.
I don't believe in forcing vaccinations on people, I'm just pushing that they do and trying to change their minds on the issue. If it gets to workplaces forcing you, then I don't need to 'spread the word' anymore, and I genuinely believe that should not occur.
It is not difficult really,
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Just to the news regarding todays numbers. QLD recording 9 and opening at 4pm today and VIC recording 11.
According to maths and the so called modelling science, I take that is a difference of 2. However, one state remains
in total 5km chains and a measly $1billion loss.
According to maths and the so called modelling science, I take that is a difference of 2. However, one state remains
in total 5km chains and a measly $1billion loss.
Just to the news regarding todays numbers. QLD recording 9 and opening at 4pm today and VIC recording 11.
According to maths and the so called modelling science, I take that is a difference of 2. However, one state remains
in total 5km chains and a measly $1billion loss.
According to maths and the so called modelling science, I take that is a difference of 2. However, one state remains
in total 5km chains and a measly $1billion loss.
VIC 0 in isolation.
So Vic in the last 24 hours last had 40 not in isolation. Sort of heads south pretty quickly after then they will probably find out later this week
Have a look at https://www.health.nsw.gov.au/Infect...y-reports.aspx
Go to sections 5&6 of the report. It’ll show how the vaccines are protecting against infections and severe disease during the current NSW outbreak.
Go to sections 5&6 of the report. It’ll show how the vaccines are protecting against infections and severe disease during the current NSW outbreak.