All borders to reopen.
Originally Posted by Foxxster
isn’t it odd that these Labor premiers are so easily able to lie. It’s almost default behaviour. Andrews lies in that enquiry about hotel quarantine even when there is evidence of emails being sent to him he apparently never got them. Now the chook lies about the vaccine showing wonderful leadership. I hope nobody is wondering why many over 50 are reluctant to get vaccinated with AstraZeneca. They have every right to be given the chooks obvious reluctance.
Originally Posted by AerialPerspective
I’m not defending what she did but I think the reason was more about the fact with Pfizer one is fully vaccinated after 21 days whereas with AZ it’s 12 weeks. You completely failed to mention that little fact.
please tell us when the nsw premier received her first AstraZeneca vaccine. In fact she received her SECOND one last week.
you forgot to mention that little fact.
Originally Posted by Foxxster
very good.
topography.. and he is no expert. Experts provide evidence to support what they think.
topography.. and he is no expert. Experts provide evidence to support what they think.
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Originally Posted by AerialPerspective
I’m not defending what she did but I think the reason was more about the fact with Pfizer one is fully vaccinated after 21 days whereas with AZ it’s 12 weeks. You completely failed to mention that little fact.
It was never the originally announced inter-shot interval.
If she could use her position to wrangle a Pfizer shot while not entitled to it then she could just as easily have wrangled a 2nd A-Z shot at a much reduced interval so she could attend the "barren Olympics"
Originally Posted by www.who.int
............Therefore an interval of 21–28 days (3–4 weeks) between doses is recommended by WHO. Depending on the vaccine, the interval may be extended for up to 42 days – or even up to 12 weeks for some vaccines – on the basis of current evidence.
I don't think the major issue is that she got the Pfizer shot.
The major issue is she took the Pfizer shot that should have gone to someone in the higher risk category.
For that she should lose her job.
The major issue is she took the Pfizer shot that should have gone to someone in the higher risk category.
For that she should lose her job.
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Originally Posted by ozbiggles
I don't think the major issue is that she got the Pfizer shot.
The major issue is she took the Pfizer shot that should have gone to someone in the higher risk category.
For that she should lose her job.
The major issue is she took the Pfizer shot that should have gone to someone in the higher risk category.
For that she should lose her job.
Originally Posted by WingNut60
The major issue is she took the Pfizer shot that should have gone to someone in the higher risk category AND SET AN ABSOLUTELY DEPLORABLE EXAMPLE.
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I’m not defending what she did but I think the reason was more about the fact with Pfizer one is fully vaccinated after 21 days whereas with AZ it’s 12 weeks. You completely failed to mention that little fact.
Originally Posted by WingNut60
The major issue is she took the Pfizer shot that should have gone to someone in the higher risk category AND SET AN ABSOLUTELY DEPLORABLE EXAMPLE.
Originally Posted by Ladloy
so did scomo..
he set an example,,led from the front in being vaccinated at the first opportunity. He was vaccinated on Sunday 21 February.
Australia has doubled its coronavirus vaccine stocks after hundreds of thousands of doses of the Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccine were flown into Sydney on Sunday.
The federal government says it hopes the new vaccine will be going into people's arms from Monday, March 8.
What happened on Sunday?
Three hundred thousand doses of the Oxford-AstraZeneca jab arrived from overseas on a plane which landed at Sydney airport.https://www.pm.gov.au/media/300000-a...rive-australia
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News just in, a woman has tested positive after arriving in QLD from VIC after spending a few days in country NSW.
If NSW had closed their border like every other state this wouldn't have happened. Now potentially looking at more border closures across the country.
If NSW had closed their border like every other state this wouldn't have happened. Now potentially looking at more border closures across the country.
So you are blaming NSW for a Victorian entering QLD via NSW. You are right, lets not blame the individuals who knowing broke the law to do this. Let all the states have armed guards on all the border points at unlimited cost to police this. I'm not sure what was driving your point other than ignorance. Airports are easy, thousands of ground based entry points are not.
And No. I'm not a blues supporter.
And No. I'm not a blues supporter.
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Originally Posted by ozbiggles
So you are blaming NSW for a Victorian entering QLD via NSW. You are right, lets not blame the individuals who knowing broke the law to do this. Let all the states have armed guards on all the border points at unlimited cost to police this. I'm not sure what was driving your point other than ignorance. Airports are easy, thousands of ground based entry points are not.
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And No. I'm not a blues supporter.
VIC has two land borders, SA had implemented a hard border with police check points at its border crossings, NSW has not and this is the consequence of trusting people to stay home. I hope throw the book at them.
I agree throw the book at them. It is a lot easier to monitor the border between SA and VIC compared to VIC and NSW. There are 4 major crossing points between SA and VIC, multiply that by 25 for VIC and NSW. It is about the same multiplication factor for back roads.
Hopefully they will be made to pay, but it won't be enough.
Hopefully they will be made to pay, but it won't be enough.
Originally Posted by jrfsp
News just in, a woman has tested positive after arriving in QLD from VIC after spending a few days in country NSW.
If NSW had closed their border like every other state this wouldn't have happened. Now potentially looking at more border closures across the country.
If NSW had closed their border like every other state this wouldn't have happened. Now potentially looking at more border closures across the country.
and people don’t want jail as a possible penalty for breaking quarantine or lockdown.
I would be very happy for her to receive at least five years. Given the last Melbourne lockdown cost around a billion dollars. Given the possibility of her infecting others who could have ended up dead or with ongoing health issues from long covid.
but we all know at most they will receive a fine, perhaps a few thousand dollars at the very most. Pathetic
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Originally Posted by ozbiggles
I agree throw the book at them. It is a lot easier to monitor the border between SA and VIC compared to VIC and NSW. There are 4 major crossing points between SA and VIC, multiply that by 25 for VIC and NSW. It is about the same multiplication factor for back roads.
Hopefully they will be made to pay, but it won't be enough.
Hopefully they will be made to pay, but it won't be enough.
I hope they jail them, but chance would be a fine thing.
Originally Posted by jrfsp
Yes the NSW border is about 4 times the length which a huge number of crossing and police resourcing would be huge,
Just use the military with loaded firearms
Originally Posted by Foxxster
scomo only took it (Pfizer) because that was all that was available at the time. He also took it before the blood clotting issue with the AstraZeneca vaccine became apparent.
he set an example,,led from the front in being vaccinated at the first opportunity. He was vaccinated on Sunday 21 February.
Australia has doubled its coronavirus vaccine stocks after hundreds of thousands of doses of the Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccine were flown into Sydney on Sunday.
The federal government says it hopes the new vaccine will be going into people's arms from Monday, March 8.
https://www.pm.gov.au/media/300000-a...rive-australia
he set an example,,led from the front in being vaccinated at the first opportunity. He was vaccinated on Sunday 21 February.
Australia has doubled its coronavirus vaccine stocks after hundreds of thousands of doses of the Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccine were flown into Sydney on Sunday.
The federal government says it hopes the new vaccine will be going into people's arms from Monday, March 8.
What happened on Sunday?
Three hundred thousand doses of the Oxford-AstraZeneca jab arrived from overseas on a plane which landed at Sydney airport.https://www.pm.gov.au/media/300000-a...rive-australia
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.the...-variant-study
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I hate Morrison with a passion (his politics anyway), but I think he did the right thing as far as vaccines go. He was in a world where Pfizer and AZ were roughly equals and all we had on hand was Pfizer. He took the Pfizer vaccine to set an example about getting the vaccine in general.
Annastacia on the other hand..... Very disappointing leadership.
Annastacia on the other hand..... Very disappointing leadership.
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