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Originally Posted by krismiler
In Australia in 2018 there was a death rate of 5 women per 100 000 giving birth, and between 2009 and 2018 251 women died during pregnancy or within 42 of the end of pregnancy.
This could be reduced to zero if people stopped having children.
This could be reduced to zero if people stopped having children.
Originally Posted by krismiler
In Australia in 2018 there was a death rate of 5 women per 100 000 giving birth, and between 2009 and 2018 251 women died during pregnancy or within 42 of the end of pregnancy.
This could be reduced to zero if people stopped having children.
This could be reduced to zero if people stopped having children.
Originally Posted by SHVC
McGoose is becoming a one man army, he is taking on the additional role of state treasurer. Becoming the u,it ate dictator.
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Originally Posted by SHVC
McGoose is becoming a one man army, he is taking on the additional role of state treasurer. Becoming the u,it ate dictator.
And with the two safest Liberal seats having gone to Labor in the last coupe of hours, today, I would think your average West Australian is quite happy.
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Originally Posted by Dannyboy39
What hasn’t been said is that these countries are seemingly ignoring real world data from a country that has more experience with the vaccine than them (UK), who found that the prevalence of these clotting findings are actually less in the vaccinated population. There are also events associated with the Pfizer vaccine which seems to have been completely ignored.
The whole world seems to have got themselves into a position that no one gets sick naturally.
By stopping the rollout, they are causing unnecessary deaths.
The whole world seems to have got themselves into a position that no one gets sick naturally.
By stopping the rollout, they are causing unnecessary deaths.
haha - "The whole world seems to have got themselves into a position that no one gets sick naturally". Thats the best statement I have heard in a long time !!!! And sooooo true !!!
In 2020, 276 people died in road accidents in Queensland. That’s 3 every 4 days but we accept it because we can’t live without transport. Some people will die because of the vaccine, however a 100% safe vaccine won’t happen, there is a risk with any medical treatment but we accept that the benefits outweigh the risks and go ahead.
A small percentage of the population are allergic to peanuts and in severe cases that can lead to death yet peanuts are widely available with little control over their sale.
A small percentage of the population are allergic to peanuts and in severe cases that can lead to death yet peanuts are widely available with little control over their sale.
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If you have a low blood platelet count, consult a GP before getting the COVID vaccine.
ITP is quite common.
COVID can cause ITP
COVID vaccine can cause ITP in some cases. 150 out of 400 million recipients
Flu vaccine can cause ITP, so can other medicines and foods.
https://www.hematology.org/covid-19/covid-19-and-itp
https://www.bmj.com/content/372/bmj.n699/rr-6\
I just wonder how the leaders and population will react when the next bad flu season hits. in 2017 4,500 people died from flu.
ITP is quite common.
COVID can cause ITP
COVID vaccine can cause ITP in some cases. 150 out of 400 million recipients
Flu vaccine can cause ITP, so can other medicines and foods.
https://www.hematology.org/covid-19/covid-19-and-itp
https://www.bmj.com/content/372/bmj.n699/rr-6\
I just wonder how the leaders and population will react when the next bad flu season hits. in 2017 4,500 people died from flu.
I wouldn't call rates of less than 1 in 10,000 "quite common".
And there is a big "do you suffer form auto immune disorders" on the consent form.
And there is a big "do you suffer form auto immune disorders" on the consent form.
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Meanwhile back at the brains trust, the Vic Government seeks to contract more CBD quarantine hotels. YOUR taxes at work.
What is that definition of insanity again? Something about doing the same thing over & over while expecting a different outcome.
What is that definition of insanity again? Something about doing the same thing over & over while expecting a different outcome.
Well since Victoria is not accepting overseas arrivals who is in quarantine there?
https://www.theage.com.au/politics/v...19-p57cb0.html
https://www.theage.com.au/politics/v...19-p57cb0.html
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Back on the topic of borders, Prof Murphy said today, "hopefully international travel will be possible in 2022". They keep moving the expectations further back. In 2020, they were hopefully for 2021, now its 2022. Even then it sounds like measures will still remain. "We might think about for example reducing the length of quarantine, or more home quarantine, particularly for vaccinated people. Our risk tolerance will change over the second half of this year. I think what I've said is nobody can really predict what will happen with international borders, I'm hopeful that pretty good international travel will happen next year but it's just too early to tell because there are things we don't know about the vaccines yet."
Currently my only incentive for vaccination is the possibility of international travel - if this is still heavily restricted, I wont be going and might hold off on vaccination.
Currently my only incentive for vaccination is the possibility of international travel - if this is still heavily restricted, I wont be going and might hold off on vaccination.
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Originally Posted by jrfsp
Back on the topic of borders, Prof Murphy said today, "hopefully international travel will be possible in 2022". They keep moving the expectations further back. In 2020, they were hopefully for 2021, now its 2022. Even then it sounds like measures will still remain. "We might think about for example reducing the length of quarantine, or more home quarantine, particularly for vaccinated people. Our risk tolerance will change over the second half of this year. I think what I've said is nobody can really predict what will happen with international borders, I'm hopeful that pretty good international travel will happen next year but it's just too early to tell because there are things we don't know about the vaccines yet."
Currently my only incentive for vaccination is the possibility of international travel - if this is still heavily restricted, I wont be going and might hold off on vaccination.
Currently my only incentive for vaccination is the possibility of international travel - if this is still heavily restricted, I wont be going and might hold off on vaccination.
The initial challenge is changing the mindset at state level. Now the election cycles have passed, there also seems to be positive noises in that area.. WA for example didn't lock out NSW last week as they have before and QLD CHO has indicated a reduced appetite for lockdowns... Haven't heard any bleatings about "Qld hospitals for Qlders' since the election.
I think we have reason for optimism in our industry.. but only if as a population in Australia we work for the greater good... ie i'm in an age bracket that is unlikely to die of Covid - but I will take either the AZ or Pfizer vaccine as soon as it is available.
So you will still need to quarantine even if you have had the vaccine, and presumably by 2022, everyone or near to it, but especially the vulnerable groups will have been vaccinated. WTF is that shite. God almighty, look at the mortality rates without a vaccine, in the UK and Australia, the average age of death of covid patients is 82. It really isn’t that horrific for most people. No it really isn’t. Now add a vaccine. It becomes like the flu.
what the hell is really going on here. I understand international travel may not be viable to countries who have not vaccinated a significant proportion of their population. The UK and the US at least are well on track already to achieve that. While Europe has cocked it up for political reasons and perhaps because they want to use their own vaccine. But you would hope they would have at least all their vulnerable groups done by the end of this year.
it is all beyond ridiculous now...
what the hell is really going on here. I understand international travel may not be viable to countries who have not vaccinated a significant proportion of their population. The UK and the US at least are well on track already to achieve that. While Europe has cocked it up for political reasons and perhaps because they want to use their own vaccine. But you would hope they would have at least all their vulnerable groups done by the end of this year.
it is all beyond ridiculous now...
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My tolerance for this stupidity reached zero some time ago.
I refuse to quarantine, social distance use a mask or use the tracking apps in ANY state.
Life goes on. Stuff the Govt’s and their Nazi gestapo police.
I refuse to quarantine, social distance use a mask or use the tracking apps in ANY state.
Life goes on. Stuff the Govt’s and their Nazi gestapo police.
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Originally Posted by zanthrus
My tolerance for this stupidity reached zero some time ago.
I refuse to quarantine, social distance use a mask or use the tracking apps in ANY state.
Life goes on. Stuff the Govt’s and their Nazi gestapo police.
I refuse to quarantine, social distance use a mask or use the tracking apps in ANY state.
Life goes on. Stuff the Govt’s and their Nazi gestapo police.
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So none of you wear masks in the airport? And if you get contacted by whoever and are instructed to isolate for some reason you just won’t do it?
my comment t about boomers was simpmy in reference to the behaviours I saw from then in my area when this all kicked off. After lockdown. They were the only ones not following the guidelines. I heard a few comment how great it was as the coffee shops were emptier. Let’s not forget those two that started the northern beaches outbreak.
my comment t about boomers was simpmy in reference to the behaviours I saw from then in my area when this all kicked off. After lockdown. They were the only ones not following the guidelines. I heard a few comment how great it was as the coffee shops were emptier. Let’s not forget those two that started the northern beaches outbreak.
