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Old 22nd Feb 2021, 09:21
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Hypothetically if someone was desperate to come for the Ashes they might try their luck convincing whoever they can that itís in everyoneís best interest that the rules change to accommodate them.

We donít let other communicable diseases rip through society just because we have vaccines.
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Old 22nd Feb 2021, 11:42
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Originally Posted by patty50 View Post
We donít let other communicable diseases rip through society just because we have vaccines.
Just preventable ones. Smoking and lung cancer for example...
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Old 22nd Feb 2021, 11:55
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Originally Posted by patty50 View Post
We donít let other communicable diseases rip through society just because we have vaccines.
Iíve read this back three times and I havenít a clue what youíre trying to convince.
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Old 22nd Feb 2021, 12:13
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Originally Posted by currawong View Post
Hypothetical situation -

Get yourself a fundamental understanding of how vaccines work.

I have a fair understanding - they intend to prevent severe disease and in this case significantly reduce transmission. Am I wrong?
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Old 22nd Feb 2021, 16:37
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Originally Posted by patty50 View Post
Hypothetically if someone was desperate to come for the Ashes they might try their luck convincing whoever they can that itís in everyoneís best interest that the rules change to accommodate them.

We donít let other communicable diseases rip through society just because we have vaccines.


So what metric are you waiting for to allow international travel again?
Personally, I have no need or desire to travel to Oz anymore, but I donít quite get what your strategy is.

Zero COVID cases? If so youíre never gonna see international travel again.
The vaccine will prevent severe disease, but wonít stop transmission.
If full vaccination is not good enough for you then what is?

There will be future mutations, nothing can be done about that and this virus is going nowhere. Either we learn to live with it, or life even close to what we knew, is over.

Personally, Iíd like to learn to live with it. Life as it is right now is not for me
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Old 22nd Feb 2021, 20:43
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That’s it BA! Each state premier (except Gladys) have installed fear about this virus for their political gain. Now the vaccine is rolling out there must be a common ground for acceptable level of the virus, as there is for others. The problem is the baby boomers and bogans that have all this fear inside them will let those same politicians know. It will be interesting to see what rhetoric McGoose pushes after his March election. Will he stick hard to zero cases then we’ll WA f$&ked royally as they have no work force. I think WA is f$&kef royally anyway as the baby boomers and bogans there will not change their thought process about the virus. Queen P up on the North well her actions are being seen now and her carnage is becoming very apparent everyday, I wonder if she pushed her CMO to make those comments about not realizing that so many ppl travel etc, surely a Dr couldn’t be that stupid!
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Old 22nd Feb 2021, 21:49
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Take a trip up to FNQ and have a look at the effects of the lack of tourism.

CNS is deserted. Itís quite sad to see and itíll take a very long time to restore the confidence of travellers from the Southern states. Theyíre the ones who spend the big $$$ domestically.
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Old 22nd Feb 2021, 22:10
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Yep borders need to come down and concentrate on the national approach.

2021 should be a booming year for domestic tourism. VIC/NSW snow fields for winter, NT/QLD for the dry, remote Australia, WA so much to offer, Tassie.

Aus has it all, no not ideal as people like me love overseas travel but for now Aus will do, open the borders, keep them open and promote AUSTRALIAN DOMESTIC TOURISM.
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Old 22nd Feb 2021, 23:18
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There's a reason people didn't holiday in Australia pre-COVID, and it hasn't gone away. It's farkin expensive!! Especially so if you have a family and are tied to peak times such as school holidays etc. in an environment where you are a captive market.
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Old 22nd Feb 2021, 23:28
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There's a reason people didn't holiday in Australia pre-COVID, and it hasn't gone away. It's farkin expensive!! Especially so if you have a family and are tied to peak times such as school holidays etc. in an environment where you are a captive market.
I certainly agree, however this year there ainít many other options. Stay home or travel domestically (yes even in your own backyard). School holidays will be interesting! Now if only everything apart from the airfares were more affordable! People will still travel.
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Old 23rd Feb 2021, 02:26
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Originally Posted by Global Aviator View Post
Yep borders need to come down and concentrate on the national approach.

2021 should be a booming year for domestic tourism. VIC/NSW snow fields for winter, NT/QLD for the dry, remote Australia, WA so much to offer, Tassie.

Aus has it all, no not ideal as people like me love overseas travel but for now Aus will do, open the borders, keep them open and promote AUSTRALIAN DOMESTIC TOURISM.
Very hard on the asian countries that rely so much on australian tourists but for now to keep us safe & as covid free as possible & to support our domestic tourism the dollars we have in our pockets need to be spent in our own backyard.
There are so many great destinations in every state that can be enjoyed & right now the places & people that rely on tourism need & want our business.
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Old 23rd Feb 2021, 02:42
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Originally Posted by Traffic_Is_Er_Was View Post
There's a reason people didn't holiday in Australia pre-COVID, and it hasn't gone away. It's farkin expensive!! Especially so if you have a family and are tied to peak times such as school holidays etc. in an environment where you are a captive market.
100% ...Lots of people are having long weekends here and there, but waiting for Asia to reopen for big holidays
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Old 23rd Feb 2021, 11:37
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Originally Posted by Dannyboy39 View Post
Iíve read this back three times and I havenít a clue what youíre trying to convince.
We have vaccines for many communicable diseases.

We still spend huge amounts of money on education, transmission control, contact tracing etc. We donít go ďwe have a vaccine and will learn to live with itĒ.

Measles, whooping cough, hepatitis B, influenza all have significant non-vaccine public health measures despite high vaccination rates. Iíd imagine COVID will be the same.




Originally Posted by BA_Baracas View Post

If full vaccination is not good enough for you then what is?

Either we learn to live with it, or life even close to what we knew, is over.
Danny is indignant at even having a test to go travelling, wants to bring whatever new mutation heís acquired with him quarantine and test free because heís had a vaccine.

Life here in Aus is basically normal, we have QR codes everywhere to check in and tape on the ground but other than that youíd have no idea of much happening. Itíll be hard for us to give that up to have whinging poms providing Bondi Rescue fodder.
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Old 23rd Feb 2021, 12:01
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There will be future mutations, nothing can be done about that and this virus is going nowhere. Either we learn to live with it, or life even close to what we knew, is over.

Personally, I’d like to learn to live with it. Life as it is right now is not for me
You have absolutely no place in this country, let alone society. I don't want anybody new in my backyard, let alone my country.

I think Daniel Andrews is the consumate politician, he always tells me the truth, tells it to me straight. Both he and VicPol are on the same page and that's what you want, the police in the back pocket of the ruling party.

Annie up in Queensland, she's keeping me safe, when the virus was running rampant in QLD, the hospitals were over run, all ventilators used, she ensured that queensland hospitals were for queenslanders only. We have a saying up in queensland 'we're all in this together' and when those hospitals were secured for us, we proved that all us queenslanders were indeed all in it together. NSW was good enough to let the overflow into the tweed hospital, even though we told them to eff off when they wanted to come up to gods country hospitals.

That Western Australian bloke, how good is he? Mr 80% he's keeping me safe, and everybody else in Australia, quick with advice to every other state that they too can eliminate the virus, well, except NSW if his advice to funnel every returning Australian through Sydney airport and hotels is to be followed. Bloody NSW taking all the flotsam and jetsam. What a hole, they all walk around the streets like there's no bloody cases, it's irresponsible and just damn dangerous, next thing you know they'll be letting friggin' kiwis in, FFS.

Don't start me on that bloody dangerous and irresponsible state, NSW, not keeping anybody bloody safe, what a bloody fool the premier is, not keeping anybody safe.

When you look at who's gotten us through all the hard times in this country, throughout history, it's our precious boomers, god love em. Can we just listen to them when they say 'I'm scared, I'm petrified' 'Annie told me I'd be dead within days if I didn't vote her back in' 'Dan told me I'd be dead within days, because the one case that caused lockdown was spreading at an unprecedented rate......to the two other people' 'Mark told me I'd be dead within days, while the one case they picked up was spreading at unprecedented rates to........no one'

I know who I trust and believe you fools.

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Old 23rd Feb 2021, 12:39
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Originally Posted by McLimit View Post
You have absolutely no place in this country, let alone society. I don't want anybody new in my backyard, let alone my country.

I think Daniel Andrews is the consumate politician, he always tells me the truth, tells it to me straight. Both he and VicPol are on the same page and that's what you want, the police in the back pocket of the ruling party.

Annie up in Queensland, she's keeping me safe, when the virus was running rampant in QLD, the hospitals were over run, all ventilators used, she ensured that queensland hospitals were for queenslanders only. We have a saying up in queensland 'we're all in this together' and when those hospitals were secured for us, we proved that all us queenslanders were indeed all in it together. NSW was good enough to let the overflow into the tweed hospital, even though we told them to eff off when they wanted to come up to gods country hospitals.

That Western Australian bloke, how good is he? Mr 80% he's keeping me safe, and everybody else in Australia, quick with advice to every other state that they too can eliminate the virus, well, except NSW if his advice to funnel every returning Australian through Sydney airport and hotels. Bloody NSW taking all the flotsam and jetsam. What a hole, they all walk around the streets like there's no bloody cases, it's irresponsible and just damn dangerous, next thing you know they'll be letting friggin' kiwis in, FFS.

Don't start me on that bloody dangerous and irresponsible state, NSW, not keeping anybody bloody safe, what a bloody fool the premier is, not keeping anybody safe.

When you look at who's gotten us through all the hard times in this country, throughout history, it's our precious boomers, god love em. Can we just listen to them when they say 'I'm scared, I'm petrified' 'Annie told me I'd be dead within days if I didn't vote her back in' 'Dan told me I'd be dead within days, because the one case that caused lockdown was spreading at an unprecedented rate......to the two other people' 'Mark told me I'd be dead within days, while the one case they picked up was spreading at unprecedented rates to........no one'

I know who I trust and believe you fools.
Interesting rant. Have you tried Valium.
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Old 23rd Feb 2021, 12:54
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Originally Posted by DHC8 Driver View Post
Interesting rant. Have you tried Valium.
He's the bloke who hits the brakes AFTER he's run into the gum tree.
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Old 23rd Feb 2021, 13:00
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Interesting rant. Have you tried Valium.
You're a bloody ranter, you ranter

Have you tried Valium.
How would you know about Valium? Good is it?
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Old 23rd Feb 2021, 13:03
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He's the bloke who hits the brakes AFTER he's run into the gum tree.
Leave old mate pineapple driver alone, he's backing you up Boomer
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Old 23rd Feb 2021, 13:32
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Originally Posted by McLimit View Post
You have absolutely no place in this country, let alone society. I don't want anybody new in my backyard, let alone my country.

I think Daniel Andrews is the consumate politician, he always tells me the truth, tells it to me straight. Both he and VicPol are on the same page and that's what you want, the police in the back pocket of the ruling party.

Annie up in Queensland, she's keeping me safe, when the virus was running rampant in QLD, the hospitals were over run, all ventilators used, she ensured that queensland hospitals were for queenslanders only. We have a saying up in queensland 'we're all in this together' and when those hospitals were secured for us, we proved that all us queenslanders were indeed all in it together. NSW was good enough to let the overflow into the tweed hospital, even though we told them to eff off when they wanted to come up to gods country hospitals.

That Western Australian bloke, how good is he? Mr 80% he's keeping me safe, and everybody else in Australia, quick with advice to every other state that they too can eliminate the virus, well, except NSW if his advice to funnel every returning Australian through Sydney airport and hotels is to be followed. Bloody NSW taking all the flotsam and jetsam. What a hole, they all walk around the streets like there's no bloody cases, it's irresponsible and just damn dangerous, next thing you know they'll be letting friggin' kiwis in, FFS.

Don't start me on that bloody dangerous and irresponsible state, NSW, not keeping anybody bloody safe, what a bloody fool the premier is, not keeping anybody safe.

When you look at who's gotten us through all the hard times in this country, throughout history, it's our precious boomers, god love em. Can we just listen to them when they say 'I'm scared, I'm petrified' 'Annie told me I'd be dead within days if I didn't vote her back in' 'Dan told me I'd be dead within days, because the one case that caused lockdown was spreading at an unprecedented rate......to the two other people' 'Mark told me I'd be dead within days, while the one case they picked up was spreading at unprecedented rates to........no one'

I know who I trust and believe you fools.
Brilliant McLimit

At least one person here understands your satire!
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Old 23rd Feb 2021, 13:46
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Originally Posted by patty50 View Post
We have vaccines for many communicable diseases.

We still spend huge amounts of money on education, transmission control, contact tracing etc. We don’t go “we have a vaccine and will learn to live with it”.

Measles, whooping cough, hepatitis B, influenza all have significant non-vaccine public health measures despite high vaccination rates. I’d imagine COVID will be the same.






Danny is indignant at even having a test to go travelling, wants to bring whatever new mutation he’s acquired with him quarantine and test free because he’s had a vaccine.

Life here in Aus is basically normal, we have QR codes everywhere to check in and tape on the ground but other than that you’d have no idea of much happening. It’ll be hard for us to give that up to have whinging poms providing Bondi Rescue fodder.

Fair enough...

I have no skin in the game now, my Aussie grandparents are no longer with us, but still intrigued by how things are panning out back there.

My point is, there will always be new mutations, vaccines aren’t gonna stop that. The only way you’re going to keep them out is to keep the doors shut indefinitely. If you’re happy with that solution, then good on ya, you’ve played a blinder.
I still have family and friends there tho, and I know how much you like to travel. So I can’t quite work out your endgame.


And I wouldn't worry about the whinging poms too much, they have plenty of other places desperate to take their money.

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