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Old 25th Nov 2020, 06:34
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WAs criteria has been stated for quite a while now, 28 days of no community cases.

Both VIC and NSW should shortly reach that criteria
That isn't the only consideration though...Mark McGoose has stated that sewage testing, the COVID testing regime of the other states & their own border arrangements, as well as whether or not a bear ****s in the woods and if Punxsutawney Phil emerges from his burrow arse-first all factor into his decision to open the border according to ABC News. Guess you'll be seeing Queenslanders banned from WA now someone has been peeing Pestilence up Cairns way this afternoon, picked up in their sewage testing...
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Old 25th Nov 2020, 07:32
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So, finally after 6 long months, the original poster BNE320 can strut around with his head held high saying “I told ya so”.
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Old 25th Nov 2020, 10:27
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So, finally after 6 long months, the original poster BNE320 can strut around with his head held high saying “I told ya so”.
Welcome back BNEA320, it appears you are no longer banned!
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Old 25th Nov 2020, 20:15
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Appears AJ is coping some heat over this. Not sure what the problem is 40 yrs ago this was mandatory to travel internationally and I wouldn't be surprised if it is made mandatory for domestic. This pandemic has cost 1000s of lives and billions of dollars.

"Qantas boss Alan Joyce has revealed the airline will require proof of vaccine from travellers when international flights resume next year.

Speaking on A Current Affair, Mr Joyce outlined the measures being explored by the airline in partnership with the federal government to try to facilitate more overseas flights.

He said passengers on repatriation flights currently being operated by Qantas were being tested prior to boarding and upon arrival in Darwin, with the aim of potentially reducing the mandatory quarantine period from 14-days to seven or even five.

“We’re also testing wastewater on the aircraft as well to check if someone on the aircraft had COVID-19, and that’s producing some promising results,” Mr Joyce said.

“There’s a lot of activity taking place. If we don’t get a vaccine, absolutely testing is the way to reduce the amount of quarantine required.”

In the event a vaccine does become available Mr Joyce said Qantas and many other airlines around the world would require travellers to have proof of vaccination before boarding an overseas flight.

“We’re looking at changing our terms and conditions,” he said.

“I think that’s going to be a common there around the globe. What we’re looking at is how you can have the vaccination (recorded) in an electronic version of a passport that certifies what the vaccine is, if it’s acceptable the country you’re travelling to.

“There’s a lot of logistics, a lot of technology that need to be put in place to make this happen.”

Mr Joyce’s comments were reflected by the International Air Transport Association which is in the final stages of developing a digital health pass, considered the key to safely reopening borders.

IATA’s annual general meeting heard the pass would manage and verify the secure flow of necessary testing or vaccine information among governments, airlines, laboratories and travellers.

IATA managing director Alexandre de Juniac said the association would bring its own travel pass to the market in coming months to meet the needs of various travel bubbles and public health corridors.

“Today borders are double locked. Testing is the first key to enable international travel without quarantine measures,” Mr de Juniac said.

“The second key is the global information infrastructure needed to securely manage, share and verify test data matched with traveller identities in compliance with border control requirements.”

Since the COVID crisis erupted, international air travel has all but ground to a halt, with Qantas suspending all commercial overseas flights from late March.

The most recent federal government indications were that international borders were unlikely to be relaxed until the end of 2021, in the absence of an effective COVID vaccine.

Mr Joyce has suggested Qantas would not resume any significant international flying until July 2021, and services to the US and the UK were unlikely to happen before December 2021.

Travel bubbles between Australia and other countries who have COVID-19 well under control such as New Zealand, South Korea and Singapore are expected to open up in coming months.

Qantas has placed most of its international fleet into storage, including 12 A380s, and most of its 787-9s and A330s.

The airline also brought forward the retirement of its five remaining Boeing 747s in July.

A total of 241 pilots have taken voluntary redundancy or early retirement equivalent to the loss of close 5 million flying hours.

On the domestic front, Qantas hopes to return to 50 or 60 per cent of pre-COVID capacity in December, providing state borders reopen".
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Old 25th Nov 2020, 20:25
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Originally Posted by Ragnor
Appears AJ is coping some heat over this. Not sure what the problem is 40 yrs ago this was mandatory to travel internationally and I wouldn't be surprised if it is made mandatory for domestic. This pandemic has cost 1000s of lives and billions of dollars.

"Qantas boss Alan Joyce has revealed the airline will require proof of vaccine from travellers when international flights resume next year.
For the majority who aren’t on the “anti-vaxers” bandwagon I would say this is a positive for Qantas and its forward bookings. I’ll buy a ticket with the airline that mandates it thanks.
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Old 25th Nov 2020, 20:36
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Still have the scars from the previous mandatory immunisation shots. I have no issue with Qantas’ stance here.

I guess the main difference, aside from diseases covered, is it was Govt. mandated instead of a private company.
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Old 25th Nov 2020, 20:51
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Originally Posted by Green.Dot
For the majority who aren’t on the “anti-vaxers” bandwagon I would say this is a positive for Qantas and its forward bookings. I’ll buy a ticket with the airline that mandates it thanks.
Why is it always black and white these days? Did you possibly imagine that someone could hold the position that vaccines do indeed work, but don't want to be forced to take a vaccine thats been brought out in record time with little regard to known long term effects? I mean it's not like we've ever got vaccines wrong before is it?
Nah, we'll just label them all "anti-vaxers" and mock them from deviating from the group think that's been perpetuated under the guise of "science" now.


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Old 25th Nov 2020, 20:57
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Yes travelling to covid ravaged countries without a vaccine and no travel insurance coverage sounds like a great idea.
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Old 25th Nov 2020, 21:26
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Why is it always black and white these days? Did you possibly imagine that someone could hold the position that vaccines do indeed work, but don't want to be forced to take a vaccine thats been brought out in record time with little regard to known long term effects?
Ok, I shouldn’t haves prodded the hornets nest with the “anti-vaxers” bit.

Me personally- I am in no hurry to go overseas, but if I needed to I know I wouldn’t be booking with “El Cheapo airline- choose your own COVID adventure” and I would take my chances with getting the jab.
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Old 25th Nov 2020, 21:49
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Originally Posted by Green.Dot
Ok, I shouldn’t haves prodded the hornets nest with the “anti-vaxers” bit.

Me personally- I am in no hurry to go overseas, but if I needed to I know I wouldn’t be booking with “El Cheapo airline- choose your own COVID adventure” and I would take my chances with getting the jab.
All good, this wasn't a dig at you personally - but just the overall theme that seems to be the way this is playing out. We seem to be on very slippery ground at the moment with private companies continuing to weigh in on things that really should be left to the law makers.

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Old 25th Nov 2020, 22:26
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Personally I can't imagine International travel can resume without mandatory vaccination, nor can I imagine you'll be able to buy travel insurance without it. This is still going to take a long time and needs to be implemented properly. The vaccination, certification and how that information is used needs to be thought through in order to prevent fakes and it needs to be an internationally agreed global standard.
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Old 25th Nov 2020, 22:36
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Appears AJ is coping some heat over this. Not sure what the problem is
AJ is copping heat over this? From who? The only ones I’ve seen who’ve voiced opposition are nutjob anti-vax nutters on the darkest corners of the internet and Pauline Hanson. So nutters comprise 100% of the opposition. I think AJ has taken a bold stand that will eventually influence others and that will pay off and attract customers to QF.
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Old 26th Nov 2020, 03:09
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Just getting back to SA they are having 33 today with double 40 temperatures that is, in the next few days. Make that 50 in the sun.
Just what the doctor ordered. Covid does not like heated surfaces or for that matter a sneeze would just totally evaporate
into thin air i.e. no microscopic particles. Now is that good science or not. The governing authorities remain quiet on these aspects.
However, the beaches will be packed though bayside councils panic about numbers and social distancing.
Nothing to worry about, their has not been a single case of transmission any part of the coastline, Australia wide.
You really start to think this is a indoor spreader not a outdoor spreader.
Anyway the hot weather will help SA cause immensely.
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Old 26th Nov 2020, 08:24
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I love it how we as pilots would happy to lampoon any layman that doesn't apparently know what they're talking about in aviation, but when it comes to all things medical we're suddenly experts on the matter too.

Priceless.

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Old 26th Nov 2020, 08:40
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Just getting back to SA they are having 33 today with double 40 temperatures that is, in the next few days. Make that 50 in the sun.
Just what the doctor ordered. Covid does not like heated surfaces or for that matter a sneeze would just totally evaporate
into thin air i.e. no microscopic particles. Now is that good science or not. The governing authorities remain quiet on these aspects.
However, the beaches will be packed though bayside councils panic about numbers and social distancing.
Nothing to worry about, their has not been a single case of transmission any part of the coastline, Australia wide.
You really start to think this is a indoor spreader not a outdoor spreader.
Anyway the hot weather will help SA cause immensely.
So you have evidence that no one has caught it on an Australian beach on a hot day do you?
You'd better let all those Europeans know so that they can re-open 'their' beaches next summer, to all regardless of where they came from.
This last summer did not go well for them, so maybe all that transmission occurred indoors while half the population was outdoors, yes?

Meantime, having no medical knowledge whatsoever, I will line up for the jab as soon as it is available. Because next year I intend being on those hot European beaches, and to get 'there' I will be flying Qantas.
People can bleat all they like about 'their' rights, but no one will be going anywhere overseas until they have been vaccinated. 'There' will be no government likely to allow entry to non-vaccinated airline passengers, so any airline not following these new rules will go bust.
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Old 26th Nov 2020, 10:10
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Mr Joyce has the benefit of some solid legal advice...

https://www.chaliklaw.com/coronaviru...g-coronavirus/

Ambulance chasers wet dream....
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Old 26th Nov 2020, 10:50
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Just getting back to SA they are having 33 today with double 40 temperatures that is, in the next few days. Make that 50 in the sun.
Just what the doctor ordered. Covid does not like heated surfaces or for that matter a sneeze would just totally evaporate
into thin air i.e. no microscopic particles. Now is that good science or not. The governing authorities remain quiet on these aspects.
However, the beaches will be packed though bayside councils panic about numbers and social distancing.
Nothing to worry about, their has not been a single case of transmission any part of the coastline, Australia wide.
You really start to think this is a indoor spreader not a outdoor spreader.
Anyway the hot weather will help SA cause immensely.
Yes because these places didn’t have spikes in July and August:

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/usa/texas/

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/usa/arizona/

I shouldn’t need to remind you what the weather’s like in July and August in Texas and Arizona.....
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Old 26th Nov 2020, 12:18
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Yep, must have been a cold summer in India this year.
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Old 27th Nov 2020, 05:55
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So McIdiot over on the west made an announcement about affordable housing. That was quickly forgotten no questions asked as the journalist wanted answers as to why they can’t agree on their own 28 days regarding opening up to Victoria. He said a announcement will be made in first half of next week but wouldn’t commit to opening up to Victoria or anywhere. Feel sorry for everyone that will miss their family because of this power hungry nut job.
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Old 27th Nov 2020, 07:58
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