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Old 5th Mar 2020, 05:50
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This is for you Habu,

Go to 8:10.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/programs...36?jwsource=cl

To be sure, to be sure!
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Old 5th Mar 2020, 06:14
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Originally Posted by Wingspar
This is for you Habu,

Go to 8:10.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/programs...36?jwsource=cl

To be sure, to be sure!
Ta mate,

Nudge nudge wink wink ... trust me I’m Qantas CEO
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Old 5th Mar 2020, 06:19
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Originally Posted by ruprecht
This has to be one of the aims of the company. All led by the AIPA ex-president. Top bloke...
Just as an alternate perspective....
I would guess he (NS) played a role in suggesting the savings ideas. The narrative would be from above...’we need these savings or the flying will be outsourced...see what you can do’.
Why anyone would want to work for QF mgmt I struggle with...but NS job in this may not have been desirable. In no way am I defending him but perhaps the job of AIPA and NS was to find a way to keep the flying in house under near impossible saving requirements.

We just don’t know, but either way, he’ll be eating and drinking while the crew are elsewhere for the remainder of his career. That’s the cost of ambition.

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Old 5th Mar 2020, 06:48
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Danny104 The number of seats in the QF A350-1000 have been quoted as around 300 and up to 375. BA have 331 seats, CX have 334 and VS 335. All have a 3 class cabin. QF will have a 4 class cabin so it could be around 315 seats.
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Old 5th Mar 2020, 06:50
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Wingspar - I watched three seconds of that from 8:10 and it made me ill. Then I reached for too much scotch and STILL can't get that image out of my head....

CC - I don't think anyone need worry about about NS. The executive bathroom he got keys to must be pretty bloody impressive!
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Old 5th Mar 2020, 06:51
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Danny104 The number of seats in the QF A350-1000 have been quoted as around 300 and up to 375. BA have 331 seats, CX have 334 and VS 335. All have a 3 class cabin. QF will have a 4 class cabin so it could be around 315 seats.
or around 235
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Old 5th Mar 2020, 06:56
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/ruprecht;10703403]What was AIPA’s strategy? PROJECT: MAGINOT LINE?




Which AIPA are you referring to ruprecht , the 5th column elements of the executive or the guys on CoM actually trying to advance the interests of the members and the profession ?
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Old 5th Mar 2020, 07:22
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Originally Posted by blow.n.gasket
/ruprecht;10703403]What was AIPA’s strategy? PROJECT: MAGINOT LINE?




Which AIPA are you referring to ruprecht , the 5th column elements of the executive or the guys on CoM actually trying to advance the interests of the members and the profession ?
Well, neither.

The WW2 reference was there and so I drew a parallel to the French who, despite setting up a defensive line, were taken by surprise when the Germans used a tactic that the French hadn’t adequately prepared for.
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Old 5th Mar 2020, 07:41
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Maybe it’s time for a remake?

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Originally Posted by crosscutter
Just as an alternate perspective....
I would guess he (NS) played a role in suggesting the savings ideas. The narrative would be from above...’we need these savings or the flying will be outsourced...see what you can do’.
Why anyone would want to work for QF mgmt I struggle with...but NS job in this may not have been desirable. In no way am I defending him but perhaps the job of AIPA and NS was to find a way to keep the flying in house under near impossible saving requirements.

We just don’t know, but either way, he’ll be eating and drinking while the crew are elsewhere for the remainder of his career. That’s the cost of ambition.
Yes, have pondered a similar line of thinking. Here’s another perspective:

The timing of this coronavirus seems pretty poor and is clearly to the company’s advantage, but I reckon it could be a lot worse. I think this virus has a long way to run yet. Imagine if the virus hit six months ago while “negotiations” were still ongoing - I can imagine the company attempting to gouge a hell of a lot more using the global downturn as an excuse. We haven’t quite dodged a bullet, but it hasn’t hit vital organs.
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Old 5th Mar 2020, 08:30
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Originally Posted by ruprecht
Yes, have pondered a similar line of thinking. Here’s another perspective:

The timing of this coronavirus seems pretty poor and is clearly to the company’s advantage, but I reckon it could be a lot worse. I think this virus has a long way to run yet. Imagine if the virus hit six months ago while “negotiations” were still ongoing - I can imagine the company attempting to gouge a hell of a lot more using the global downturn as an excuse. We haven’t quite dodged a bullet, but it hasn’t hit vital organs.
Agreed, Except if this “offer” / “deal” is voted down. It’s then back to re-negotiating under the cloud of the current Coronavirus crisis. And this clearly has a long way to go before it’s resolved. Pretty sure I can guess the new line the company will then be pushing.
Rumour is more aircraft about to be parked and routes cancelled. Tough times.
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Old 5th Mar 2020, 12:51
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Do we really believe that under the current economic conditions that a yes vote will lead to 350s and project sunrise flying?? Share price and dollar tanking, Corona getting a toe hold in Aus. I would suggest Sunrise won’t happen regardless of a yes or no vote.
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Old 5th Mar 2020, 13:22
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Do we really believe that under the current economic conditions that a yes vote will lead to 350s and project sunrise flying?? Share price and dollar tanking, Corona getting a toe hold in Aus. I would suggest Sunrise won’t happen regardless of a yes or no vote.
The Coronavirus won’t be affecting the economy then. It’s not the Black Death, life will go on. Any hits to the economy will be short term. Yes some flying will be drawn back but that’ll be a temporary thing.

Now is the time to be looking at fuel efficient aircraft and routes that are a competitive advantage to be implemented when the economy is stronger. Manufacturers will also be desperate to sell aircraft at cheaper prices too.

And you’d be want to ensure current mainline pilots will be flying them. If a deal involving MORE pay ($400k) is knocked back in the current climate with pilots around the world having hours cut and contracts cancelled it will look incredibly stupid.
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“How does anyone think that will go down with the movers and shakers and other big-swinging-dicks of the Qantas Club? Seriously?”
And
“Until there's a bingle!”
Rather striking that there appears to be an under current of belief from several of the QF pilots here that an external crewing source for the A350, were it to happen, would include pilots of lower experience and lesser quality.
I would suggest that exactly the opposite would occur and make no mistake, you will be killed in the rush of experienced and well trained bingle free applicants were QF to proceed with such a plan particularly involving the compensation levels alluded to here.


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Old 5th Mar 2020, 19:05
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Maybe QF can do an MOU for the JQ787 lads when they sell the remaining 787’s?
Why advertise overseas?
Yes, they’ll have no trouble finding jockeys!
Just like the Chinese.
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Old 5th Mar 2020, 20:51
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I see a train wreck coming. You can’t vary an award at any whim it has to be voted upon. Loads are tanking every where and of course we have to many fleet types and no ability to substitute. Get rid of the 747? Easier said than done then you have a RIN they don’t want more crew on the 380, if they take 380s off any routes what replaces them? My crystal ball sees PTH/LHR stopped, plus MLB and BNE to SFO also with just SYD/SFO maybe with a 747 again if the 747 stopped Tokyo with a 330 doing that. Open to other thoughts please?
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Old 5th Mar 2020, 21:15
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I think the 380 is already coming off MEL-SIN next month.
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Old 5th Mar 2020, 21:56
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LH announced 2 days ago the group is going to ground 150 jets due to covid-19.

BA left LHR 2 days ago for SIN with 400 empty seats on the A380. Lots of noshows.
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Old 5th Mar 2020, 22:17
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Originally Posted by B772
LH announced 2 days ago the group is going to ground 150 jets due to covid-19.

BA left LHR 2 days ago for SIN with 400 empty seats on the A380. Lots of noshows.
A strong rumour circulating that the A380 is coming off LONDON. The flight will be flown by 787s through Darwin direct. Possible announcement today.
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Old 5th Mar 2020, 22:34
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A strong rumour circulating that the A380 is coming off LONDON. The flight will be flown by 787s through Darwin direct. Possible announcement today.

Correct I believe. The figure talked about is 6 380s to be grounded, how I don’t know.
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