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Old 24th Nov 2019, 20:48
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Originally Posted by Less Hair View Post
Yes, now they do if you mean -300ERs and Freighters by "classic" and not the -200 and -300. But taking orders now would require the whole supply pipeline that just got moved to the X to go back to the last generation for a delivery date in two years or similar?
Both the 777-300ER and -200LR are still in production - as noted at a reduced rate. Furthermore, so long as the 777F remains in production - the commonality with the 777-200LR is such that the -200LR will remain 'offerable'.
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Old 24th Nov 2019, 21:47
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Wasnít Tino up in Chicago just recently ?
The story I heard is the Boeing offering for Project Sunrise was 777-9ís with Boeing offering to pay for the blockage of seats
to achieve range as an interim solution until the 777-8 is/ maybe built .
Also heard that the Qantas masters of the universe tried to screw Boeing even further on the conditions on the deal only to be told ď This is the deal , if you donít like it try Airbus , good luck ! ď .

Or words to that effect .
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Old 24th Nov 2019, 22:49
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looks like it has been decided

https://www.latlmes.com/business/australian-airline-qantas-purchases-boeing-777-1
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Old 24th Nov 2019, 22:55
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Originally Posted by f1yhigh View Post
https://www.latlmes.com/business/australian-airline-qantas-purchases-boeing-777-1
Rickrolled...
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Old 25th Nov 2019, 03:22
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Originally Posted by f1yhigh View Post
https://www.latlmes.com/business/australian-airline-qantas-purchases-boeing-777-1
Nicely done.
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Old 28th Nov 2019, 04:26
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So what came from these webinars?
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Old 28th Nov 2019, 05:08
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Originally Posted by Wingspar View Post
So what came from these webinars?
For those players, probably a full bingo card...

https://www.bullshitbingo.net/cards/bullshit/
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Old 29th Nov 2019, 04:39
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Originally Posted by Wingspar View Post
So what came from these webinars?
...that this new aircraft, if we ever order them, will be an A380 replacement. Any thought that this is a growth aircraft with 400 additional pilots- the same fairy tale they used for the B787- is completely false.
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Old 29th Nov 2019, 06:04
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They will say whatever they want to get this over the line. Itís about fleet pay based on the 787 and a massive saving in pilot wages when the 330/747/380 are all retired. Fall for this and I e got an opera house to sell you.
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Old 30th Nov 2019, 07:59
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Originally Posted by Street garbage View Post
...that this new aircraft, if we ever order them, will be an A380 replacement. Any thought that this is a growth aircraft with 400 additional pilots- the same fairy tale they used for the B787- is completely false.
The 400 pilots Tino La Spiv is referring to will likely come from the retirements predicted for the next few years.
After all the western economies are ageing rather rapidly as the baby boom move to retirement..finally.
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Old 1st Dec 2019, 01:04
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So end of next week is the deadline.
Friday the 13th to be precise......is there an omen there?
How can AJ put to the board a business case which is flawed?
No matter what they discuss with the pilots, the project is illegal.
Unless CASA give approval by the end of next week the whole matter is null and void.
Let me think, RedQ and Jetstar HK went no where because AJ went and announced it before regulatory approval.
Looks like he is going for a hat trick.
Superior management!
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Old 1st Dec 2019, 06:19
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Sorry I didn’t mean regulatory approval as such.
I mean you shouldn’t go blabbing through the media about starting an airline before seeking approval from the locals first!
Sound familiar?


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Old 4th Dec 2019, 06:35
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I’m hearing 8 employees of HR were shown the door yesterday, some very high up, the food chain. I wonder if the slow or no progress on Sunrise had anything to do with it.
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Old 4th Dec 2019, 08:48
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Probably Christmas is coming and QF wanted to save on the Compnay Christmas card list
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Old 4th Dec 2019, 18:23
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Originally Posted by dragon man View Post
Iím hearing 8 employees of HR were shown the door yesterday, some very high up, the food chain. I wonder if the slow or no progress on Sunrise had anything to do with it.
Unlikely.

Just the pre Christmas purge. Nightshift at AKL call centre is being abolished in favour of outsourcing to CPT and MNL
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Old 8th Dec 2019, 22:15
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A CASA spokeswoman said the agency was in the process of "transforming the way we operate to provide more consistent and standardised safety oversight", and was developing a new "oversight model" that would identify staff roles and capabilities.One CASA inspector, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because he was not permitted to talk about the organisation publicly, said the staff shortage was forcing inspectors to cut corners and adopt “box ticking” approach to safety checks.
One might posit, that Chairman's lounge memberships to the good folk at CASA ensure that the boxes are ticked for "sunrise" ..

Quick Little Napoleon, order an aircraft and gain a regulatory exemption at the same time.

https://www.smh.com.au/business/work...03-p53gg0.html
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Old 8th Dec 2019, 22:19
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Old 9th Dec 2019, 02:10
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I just hope AIPA have an appropriate response for the inevitable QF press release!
Iím very keen to see the magnitude of the Ďpettyí factor QF will attribute to the pilots for this failed project.
AIPA please be prepared!!
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Old 9th Dec 2019, 02:20
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Just another crowning achievement the wee one can add to his failure ridden ,spin driven , thought bubble inspired curriculum vitae .
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Old 9th Dec 2019, 04:47
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"according to the Australian & International Pilots Association weekly newsletter, Insights, while the Project Sunrise business case will be put to the board this week “it remains subject to pilot acceptance of a new EA and further Board review in February 2020.”

It adds that “depending on the outcome of Qantas Board meetings, a package of terms and conditions may be put with a ballot to Long Haul pilots early next year. This could be irrespective of AIPA’s position on the package.”
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