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Old 9th Feb 2017, 09:50
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Does anyone have a real idea about how much a first year SO would actually earn inc allowances? The base salary would be around $72,000 minus super, which isn't great. I've crunched my own numbers based on allowances in the eba, but interested to hear what the average figure actually is...
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Old 9th Feb 2017, 21:02
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The base salary will be going up regardless if and when this new EBA comes out (but I don't suspect it'll get voted up first go). Plus, considering a lot of our allowances are in USD and fluctuates, and depends on how much you want to spend while you're over there, bank on 5 trips per 56 days at $290USD per trip.

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Old 9th Feb 2017, 21:14
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Any ideas on when the courses are due to start for those that have got through the current round of interviews? I heard that it will most likely be in the US due to busy SIMS here?
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Old 10th Feb 2017, 01:01
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There will be a B777 course in April...
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Old 10th Feb 2017, 22:58
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Amateur,

Anyone starting has a B777 SO will start on base pay of around $89000 (excluding super) if the new EBA is voted in. Throw in the overnight allowances and you will make over $100000.
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Old 11th Feb 2017, 04:38
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Be surprised if it gets over the line
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Old 11th Feb 2017, 10:57
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Yawn

What a fantastic deal, especially for the a330 blokes. The chance of a yes vote is as likely as the second coming.

$88k for SOs unlikely. Best plan on $72k.
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Old 14th Feb 2017, 22:43
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Is there much difference in the flying being based at Auckland vs Christchurch? Is it similar trips, destinations etc?
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Old 14th Mar 2017, 01:38
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Job details - Expression of Interest - Fokker 100 First Officers | Virgin Australia

Are there no ATR FO's or 777 SO's that want to move to Perth?
Surely the cadets would be keen.
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Old 14th Mar 2017, 02:40
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please provide a copy of your high school results
Is this common? I mean it's been probably 20 years for some I really don't see the point (let alone trying to find them)
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Old 14th Mar 2017, 03:43
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Ok then. You write back to them and advise them you couldn't be buggered looking for them because you " don't see the point". That should fix 'em.
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Old 14th Mar 2017, 09:30
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I know of guys and girls with in excess of 10,000 hours, including jet time (both as FO and SO/ wide body/narrow body ) with multi crew command experience (turbo prop)who can't even crack an interview with VA!!!
Anyone got any ideas ?
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Anyone got any ideas ?
Yep!

Halve the hours, remove the considerable work experience and make yourself look like your are a keen GA/Regional pilot wanting to move up......
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Old 14th Mar 2017, 09:52
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Ok so....
Lie on the resume,
Falsify the logbook
Dumb down the real,life experience

They are PILOTS..... Not HR wannabes !
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Old 14th Mar 2017, 10:02
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It has nothing to do with flying experience anymore!
It is all about satisfying the HR ego.
And every HR ego have their own take on what that involves.
It is a total lottery.
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Old 14th Mar 2017, 10:29
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Originally Posted by apache
I know of guys and girls with in excess of 10,000 hours, including jet time (both as FO and SO/ wide body/narrow body ) with multi crew command experience (turbo prop)who can't even crack an interview with VA!!!
Anyone got any ideas ?
If experience is anything to go by it'll be because they're scared someone will enter the business that knows more than others already there and in charge... it's a characteristic of VA, they HATE people who know what they're doing... I know of many people who have been maneuvered out because they knew their stuff and obviously were too much of a risk in showing up those that don't, who are plenty.
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Old 14th Mar 2017, 12:40
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I know of guys and girls with in excess of 10,000 hours, including jet time (both as FO and SO/ wide body/narrow body ) with multi crew command experience (turbo prop)who can't even crack an interview with VA!!!
Anyone got any ideas ?
Here's a great idea - join the "boys club" (cronyism/nepotism)

It always was a boys club.

How can there be any merit in a system that recruits GA pilots, with even less than 2000 hours flying single pilot light piston twins (eg BE76), but yet they overlook highly experienced jet/turboprop pilots ?

To make it even more confusing, some of these pilots were hired from one resume only through one of their mates, and then after an interview consisting of nothing more than a casual chat and basically when can you start. No aptitude testing, sim ride or tech questions. How can you can call this accurate screening ?

You might say experience isn't everything, and some of these highly experienced pilots might be unsuitable, but yet they cannot even get an interview to start with.
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Old 14th Mar 2017, 23:37
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You are a bit behind the times Mr Citizen

The interview process has had a panel interview and sim assessment for the last 8 or so years that I can recall and now includes a psych test and group exercise.

That all said, does it produce a better result than the convivial chat? Don't know, I have my suspicions.

As you allude to, getting the interview is the hardest part, though I am surprised that these days that is an issue.
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Old 15th Mar 2017, 02:03
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John Citizen et al:

Virgin can no longer offer pilot recruits a rapid path to command, nor realistically can it offer a brilliant controllable roster or world-class pay. Isn't it reasonable that the recruiting may lean towards the younger GA types who will more patiently sit in the 777 backseat or ATR right seat for 3 years THEN a long stretch in the right seat of the 737, possibly not at their preferred base???

I know 25 year old me would have put up with these things happily where 40 year old industry experienced me wouldn't deal well with it.

The 2000 hour GA/regional candidate is more likely to put in a few years. Those with thousands of hours of turboprop command won't enjoy sitting beside captains younger than them for 15+ years and will soon wander off elsewhere. VA currently can choose who it recruits. The pool is unquestionably drying up though.
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Old 15th Mar 2017, 02:49
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I've witnessed first hand the result of no longer hiring the best candidate, but hiring the best candidate that suits the company's idealogy at the time.
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