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Old 15th Mar 2017, 03:22
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Avenues of entry into the company are S/O, 737 F/O NZ and ATR F/O.

External candidates are considered for the above positions after those that are eligible to do so under the GDOJ have indicated a preference.

There is clearly a breakdown in the how the applications are filtered because over the last six months it has been a struggle just to get a full quota of applicants to each assessment centre, so to hear that qualified people aren't even getting considered seems very strange. I suspect some of those that have been scheduled in for interviews have been given start dates elsewhere in the interim and have cancelled at the last minute, not surprising in the current environment.

The boys club comment is outdated, and the recruitment process itself has gone through quite a change over the last two years in terms of who is involved and who makes what decisions. Three out of four on the interview panel are always line pilots, as are of course the checkies that run the sim assessments.
No process is infallible and the occasional one might slip through to the keeper, but overall the pilot involvement is large with regards to who is and isn't successful, and the process compared to other airlines is not arduous.

There will be a steady requirement for crew this year, even more so if the predictions of a mass exodus to QF are realised.
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Old 15th Mar 2017, 05:15
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Avenues of entry into the company are S/O, 737 F/O NZ and ATR F/O.
Also Fk100 FO.
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Old 15th Mar 2017, 08:26
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Also Fk100 FO
F100 FO isn't working for VA. Interviews for those positions will be conducted by the skywest side of the operation I would suspect.
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Old 15th Mar 2017, 08:30
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If you think recruiting a 10,000 hour Jet Pilot into the back seat of a B777 is a good motivational fit you don't know much about recruitment. Open Descent is on the money for how it works.
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Old 15th Mar 2017, 22:34
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Fk100 FO position is recruited by VA, they will get slots on the Global Date of Joining List, and be merely 1600 numbers off a 777 command.
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Old 16th Mar 2017, 01:16
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1600, 100, same same

The guys on the bottom of the first page of the seniority list are now not senior enough for a 777 command.

Couldn't give them away a few years ago, same as the 330, but these days they are fairly hotly contested. The attrition rate isn't huge so the flow through from other fleets isn't big.
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Old 16th Mar 2017, 01:54
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When you have narrow body captains bidding for FO slots on both the B777 and A330, anyone who is joining now will be 8- 10 years away from a right hand seat on the wide body fleet. And by the time their number comes up the current wide body fleet would have been replaced by another type(s).
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And by the time their number comes up the current wide body fleet would have been replaced by another type(s).
Or replaced by another Airline!
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Old 22nd Mar 2017, 00:29
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Any advice on how to upload school results for the F100 position?
Only place you can upload documents is where you attach the C.V. I'm thinking I'll just attached required documents to C.V as his seems to be the only option.
Also does anyone know how many pilots they are looking to recruit?
Any tips if I was to be a successful candidate in preparing for the selection process?
Thanks in advance.
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Old 23rd Mar 2017, 08:58
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Virgin F100 FO recruitment

Originally Posted by anonfly
Any advice on how to upload school results for the F100 position?
Only place you can upload documents is where you attach the C.V. I'm thinking I'll just attached required documents to C.V as his seems to be the only option.
Also does anyone know how many pilots they are looking to recruit?
Any tips if I was to be a successful candidate in preparing for the selection process?
Thanks in advance.
Hey mate i just added another few pages to the resume with the information they requested as also couldnt figure anything else. Also does anyone know if anyone jas started to get interviews or dates etc. The job does close end of March so prob thinking after that date should hear something back.
Good luck to everyone
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Old 4th Apr 2017, 11:02
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Anyone else get the email about the "ATR update?"
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Old 7th Apr 2017, 10:47
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New Zealand 737 Opportunities

G'day All

Any info on what it's like to be NZ based on the 737 ?

Commuting to NZ from say Sydney or Brisbane, is it feesable ?

Rosters, What are they like days off etc ?

How many days away per trip ?

How long to command in NZ compared to VAA ?
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Old 7th Apr 2017, 12:06
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New Zealand 737 Opportunities
G'day All

Any info on what it's like to be NZ based on the 737 ?

Commuting to NZ from say Sydney or Brisbane, is it feesable ?

Rosters, What are they like days off etc ?

How many days away per trip ?

How long to command in NZ compared to VAA ?
Commuting is possible. There is a good portion of crew that do it from Melbourne/Sydney/Brisbane and Adelaide. It's expensive and tiring but that will be your lifestyle choice.

Guaranteed 10 days off. Mixture of day returns, night returns, overnights, multi day trips with anything up to 6 days away. Most layovers are in Aus. Some in the Pacific islands and NZ. Be prepared to be away from home a lot!

Command is hard to say. The protected list is almost exhausted so very soon the next round of NZ commands will be open to the group.

Money is reasonable. Less tax in NZ but also less super. Only 4%. Good DTA on trips will top up base salary by 15-20k per year. 5 weeks A/L.
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Old 7th Apr 2017, 20:45
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Just wonder anyone here is invited for 17-18/4 assessment? Many thanks!
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Old 8th Apr 2017, 03:01
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Originally Posted by kowloonman
Just wonder anyone here is invited for 17-18/4 assessment? Many thanks!
Hey is this for the Perth F100 assessments? I haven't heard anything back as of yet. Good luck if you made the cut.
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Old 8th Apr 2017, 17:22
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Originally Posted by anonfly
Hey is this for the Perth F100 assessments? I haven't heard anything back as of yet. Good luck if you made the cut.
Supportedly for B737NG Auckland base
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Old 12th Apr 2017, 03:03
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Anyone on here heard anything about the F100 positions that were advertised based in Perth?
Cheers
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Old 21st Apr 2017, 02:41
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VA F100 in Perth

Anyone heard any news on the VA F100 recruitment for Perth. It was mentioned that assessments would be in May
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Old 22nd Apr 2017, 04:09
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Originally Posted by Buckshot16
Yes Density mate, the one and only ! Those days are gone, the HR twats need to justify there existence now, with questions like " can you give me a time ... and what was the outcome ". Please tell me you don't have a psych department in VA.
True, it's called targeted selection or TS and it's been around since the 80s... unlike a lot of the fads of the eighties like TQM, etc. it has not died a slow death. Can tell you from being on both sides it is a crock... it takes no account of a person who's work experience is known and it's major fault is also touted as it's major strength in that I've known people who could sell ice to Eskimos and they get through with shining colors. In my experience with recruitment, if they already have someone in mind and it's not you, the 'skilled' recruiter/HR person will write key things down that you might say inadvertently and will then put that back to you as being evidence of not quite what they were after to justify their decision. Many years ago I did two jobs at the same time, rather I was doing a job that had been split in two and when the restructure was over I got the lesser of the two because they felt I 'wasn't quite ready'. This despite much of the company and peers ticking the role I was expecting to get off because everyone reckoned I had it in the bag. They also told me the guy they eventually gave it to interviewed exceptionally well. Before they appointed him they asked me to continue doing both jobs (to which I replied no, I don't think I'm ready for it yet...). 3 months later, the guy that interviewed exceptionally assaulted a subordinate and was fired and I ended up getting the job. The interview and the targeted selection process was obviously flawed. The thing is they're looking for an easy answer... and they talk about TS as though it's a science and it does all the work for you all you have to do is ask the questions but it's not. Nothing beats looking at someones past performance and exercising some perception while interviewing. The rest to quote Kevin Pollack in A Few Good Men is just "smoke filled, coffee house crap".
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Old 22nd Apr 2017, 05:05
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For those curious, the recently announced commands show a minimum time to 737 command of 7.0 years from induction to command announcement. Training could be 1 year later with the backlog.
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