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Because it is still infinitely better than where they are currently.
Compared to what? Genuine question. Keeping in mind that not everybody is interested in doing 9 day trips to London in the back seat.
Is it really that hard to have a half decent lifestyle with 12 rdo's a roster? Again, genuine question.
Compared to what? Genuine question. Keeping in mind that not everybody is interested in doing 9 day trips to London in the back seat.
Is it really that hard to have a half decent lifestyle with 12 rdo's a roster? Again, genuine question.
The 12 days off are required to stay functional in this job. There is no functioning PBS or Trip Swap system. FDP are used as targets. People are exhausted. Throw in the people who commute (guessing approx 30% of crew) and there is a lot of disharmony. The resignation rate reflects how people are feeling.
It’s a good place to use as a stepping stone to greener pastures, but not many are staying for the long term.
Compared to the 3 major airlines people aspire to work for in this country - QF, JQ and VA. The former now pay better, have better career progression, better base options and better fleet options.
The 12 days off are required to stay functional in this job. There is no functioning PBS or Trip Swap system. FDP are used as targets. People are exhausted. Throw in the people who commute (guessing approx 30% of crew) and there is a lot of disharmony. The resignation rate reflects how people are feeling.
It’s a good place to use as a stepping stone to greener pastures, but not many are staying for the long term.
The 12 days off are required to stay functional in this job. There is no functioning PBS or Trip Swap system. FDP are used as targets. People are exhausted. Throw in the people who commute (guessing approx 30% of crew) and there is a lot of disharmony. The resignation rate reflects how people are feeling.
It’s a good place to use as a stepping stone to greener pastures, but not many are staying for the long term.
People are resigning, but again I don’t think it’s in any great number. It definitely peaked when quite a flew left for Atlas, but since then it seems to have gone quiet (unless there are a heap to still go to QF - but that number has been big for 18 months apparently.). At a guess I’d suggest the resignation rate is around the 5% mark? I’m also not sure it’s quite right to say that people aren’t staying long term - there is a hell of a lot of people who have been in the place 20/15/10 years.
You make a good point about career progression and QF certainly offers variety in a career. It’s the one thing Virgin can’t offer, and it’s significant. It’s the one thing if I was younger and had a choice of who to apply to, that I’d be factoring in.
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Something else to consider: how certain is the future of mainline QF SH?
Is the fleet size going to stay the same (or even expand) or shrink when the 737 is phased out and the flying is given to one or more subsidiaries?
Whatever one ends up choosing, it is always a gamble.
Is the fleet size going to stay the same (or even expand) or shrink when the 737 is phased out and the flying is given to one or more subsidiaries?
Whatever one ends up choosing, it is always a gamble.
I wouldn’t worry too much about the size of the subsidiaries long term. They will never be able to attract the numbers that they need on the terms they’re offering.
My prediction is that eventually most, not all, flying that’s been farmed out to the subsidiaries will be brought back into mainline more out of necessity.
My prediction is that eventually most, not all, flying that’s been farmed out to the subsidiaries will be brought back into mainline more out of necessity.
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I've heard too that out of those 8 days off a month, most pilots are working on their days off just to make ends meet. So then going from 6 or 7 days off a month to 12 is huge. Is it true it's double the wage to go to Virgin?
More than double… QantasLink starting salary is 66K
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The hectic rate of training/recruiting at VA is slowing.
Forecasting only 80 new FOs and 27 command upgrades in 12 months. In addition to jobs announced and Fokker transfers. Fleet will plateau for a year or so when the Max 8s arrive.
Forecasting only 80 new FOs and 27 command upgrades in 12 months. In addition to jobs announced and Fokker transfers. Fleet will plateau for a year or so when the Max 8s arrive.
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Do you have any info on the 12 months from when? Quite a few now waiting for a start date that interviewed from late June onwards. Still interviewing until end of September I heard, others who who were due to interview after Sept have been pushed back until next year.
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Correct. As well as any other pilots made redundant in 2020 under the reemployment policy - wide body / ATR and Tiger also. As time goes buy one would think that most would have made their bed and if they aren’t back then probably not coming back - albeit the right of return is there till 2026.
Correct. As well as any other pilots made redundant in 2020 under the reemployment policy - wide body / ATR and Tiger also. As time goes buy one would think that most would have made their bed and if they aren’t back then probably not coming back - albeit the right of return is there till 2026.
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Probably a thread drift, but I wonder how many of those made redundant have chosen to stay away from aviation ever since, how many have made their bed somewhere else, and how many have actually come back. The opportunities for everyone to come back have been there, but clearly many have stayed away.
